Post-Game Talk: GM 13 | Oilers def. Canucks | 7-3 (Pettersson, Hronek, Suter) | That wasn’t fun.

[theguardianII]

might be a good thing, sounds like the whole team is sick right now with something.

Ya, sick of Tocchet!
His style will make him a short lived coach.
Some of these players went through this with Green, same message different voice.
Bruce made them feel good about playing, Tocchet scolds them.

Two different styles, one successful and one still learning.

I am sure eventually Tocchet will purge the team of all high skill and have a team just like he was, a board's guy, a grunt.

Right now he isn't doing his job, if Miller is injured, popped rib maybe, and if Boeser has even a possible concussion, for which Tocchet should never have allowed him on a plane, maybe this has happened with Pettersson too, he should be intimately involved in those types of injuries. If not attended to correctly a concussion can take well over a year to recover from and if delayed too long maybe not fully.

Tocchet says it's up to the players how much they can play through physical issues when sometimes actually managing a player's health, for the future of the team, is just as important as making up line combinations. He seems like he wears blinders.

BTW I have posted many times that EP's decline mirrors post concussion symptoms and would be just as immediate, like flipping a switch.

 

[EpochLink]

JUULSEN SUCKS, never play that scrub.

 

[bbud]

Fu,kin buttman schedule makers

Let's also hope stripes are different the ones last night were wearing oiler diapers

 

[VanJack]

A few silver linings from last night's loss and third period meltdown. Hronek finally got off the schneid with a goal; and a two point game for Pettersson.

Obviously they need more from both these guys and last night was a start. And a delightful 'after-hours' with Louie and Jake Debrusk. Seems like just a solid guy with a lot of character.

The Bruins loss is the Canucks gain. Glad they signed this guy to a seven year deal, and $5.5m a season might look like a bargain in a few years.

 

[Canuckle1970]

Waited till today to watch After Hours with Jake DeBrusk and his dad. Glad I did, it was good.

 

[I am toxic]

Instant doomer classic. Discount the win against Florida, discount the OTL to Carolina, discount the win against LA, meanwhile I'm not even convinced the .500 Oilers or the Lightning are "a lock". How can people even take this garbage seriously

The writing is on the wall, and the fat lady has sung. The clock is at 11:59 and the lights have gone on.

It's closing time, and the day is done, sun has set. All good things must come to an end.

The goose is cooked, blackened, done like dinner. Stick a fork in this season. Sky? Already fallen in ruins.

The only thread that should gain traction is the tank thread, anything else will just slide down the slippery slope of unrequited hope.

As it should be. This is hockey's future, where all current assets should be sold off for future assets, so those future assets can be sold even further down the road, leading to the bliss of perpetual hope and the certainty of failure in the now. This is the way.

Your* welcome

* no, not you're , your. I apostrophe when I please, and you grammar nazis can suck it

 

[Wisp]

taj tries to stir people up. and you fell for it.

 

[tyhee]

IMO - Oilers getting another buttery soft PP to start the third, followed by still another, gave them the opening to take the momentum.

But, the collapse after the 4-2 goal was inexcusable, and at that point, the Oilers simply looked hungry and the Canucks looked like they wanted to go home.
,,,

I won't argue that the collapse was inexcusable. I wondered if it was connected to the officiating, though, as if the Canucks felt that the referees weren't going to allow them a chance to win.

 

[Canucks LB]

Miller is having a rough start to the year. Not much unlike the horrendous start a few years ago but he's lucky that Pettersson has been taking all of the heat so far. He looks like a shell of the dominant force we saw for all of last season. Not skating, not hitting, not covering his checks, not good enough.

The guy is clearly injured, JT Miller is the last person I’m worried about during playoff time

 

[BenningHurtsMySoul]

This one game took Lankinen's numbers from 2.05 GAA and .923 sv% to 2.65 GAA and .905 sv%.

Tocchet should have pulled him at 5-2 when the game was clearly over.

 

[vadim sharifijanov]

one thing i forgot to note in my post-game breakdown: i really expected more out of debrusk on the forecheck, and much more in terms of trying to get himself on the inside in the crease. otherwise, we’re just overpaying for a guy with B+ hands.

 

[HairyKneel]

Ya, sick of Tocchet!
His style will make him a short lived coach.
Some of these players went through this with Green, same message different voice.
Bruce made them feel good about playing, Tocchet scolds them.

Two different styles, one successful and one still learning.

I am sure eventually Tocchet will purge the team of all high skill and have a team just like he was, a board's guy, a grunt.

Right now he isn't doing his job, if Miller is injured, popped rib maybe, and if Boeser has even a possible concussion, for which Tocchet should never have allowed him on a plane, maybe this has happened with Pettersson too, he should be intimately involved in those types of injuries. If not attended to correctly a concussion can take well over a year to recover from and if delayed too long maybe not fully.

Tocchet says it's up to the players how much they can play through physical issues when sometimes actually managing a player's health, for the future of the team, is just as important as making up line combinations. He seems like he wears blinders.

BTW I have posted many times that EP's decline mirrors post concussion symptoms and would be just as immediate, like flipping a switch.

It sounds like you're pretty plugged into the inner workings of the team.

The goalies couldn't win us a cup due to dehydration

Miller has a popped rib

The players hate Tocchet

The window is 1 year long

None of the other Players like Petersson

 

[HairyKneel]

Surprisingly - Blueger and Myers were the only Canucks with + nights. Pretty disappointing 3rd, but shit happens. On to the next one.

Refreshing to read another adult's POV. Need a 45 gallon drum of gripe water for some of the kids.

 

[theguardianII]

It sounds like you're pretty plugged into the inner workings of the team.

The goalies couldn't win us a cup due to dehydration

Miller has a popped rib

The players hate Tocchet

The window is 1 year long

None of the other Players like Petersson

Well yes I guess I do have a pretty good idea or used to but still some tidbits here and there. Ever learn "body language"?

Goalies - As anyone can find out they lose a lot of weight per game often they can lose up to 8lbs. Air planes are pressurized to 8000 feet and the air is dehumidified, most people will get dry throats, nose. 2011 the Canucks spent 10 times more time in planes than did the Bruins and were playing in very hot climates. Schneider had dehydration problems and he wasn't playing that much. Dehydration slows responses.

Miller - Having popped a rib at two different times I am intimately familiar with the effects as are some other posters. Extremely painful and will limit physical play or use, like drawing a puck on FO's. It can be frozen but the grinding doesn't inspire more use and after it hurts even worse for awhile.

Tocchet - How many stories of trade request are needed to see Tocchet has a very narrow acceptance window? 7 or 8 players wanted out of Arizona his 2nd year there, some did get traded and most had their stat lines decline. You won't find many player coming outright and demanding trades in public but the stories do get out there and if Arizona had that many with the very limited media reporting there could have been more.
It may not be as much the players hating Tocchet as Tocchet not liking players. Fans hated Torts but the players liked him.

The window - who on the team now will be better in three years? Lekkerimaki isn't a Tocchet player, will Boeser be paid the expect 8 mil to stay, who replaces Soucy or Myers, will Demko be playing at all and he will need a raise if he is any good then 6+ mil, if not a good team will Hughes decide that 12+ mill from NJD to play with his brothers is just as good as the pressure cooker of Vancouver at 12+mi.

I never said anything about other players not liking/hating Pettersson but I did say they don't hang around together as much off the ice.

The game has changed, it isn't so much a game as a business now. A player like Miller is a bit of a throw back

 

[Vector]

Taj sucks. Block him and his attention seeking takes and follow our very own x.com for media breakdowns.

Hell yeah!!

 

[Vikz]

This one game took Lankinen's numbers from 2.05 GAA and .923 sv% to 2.65 GAA and .905 sv%.

Tocchet should have pulled him at 5-2 when the game was clearly over.

Just shows how significantly a bad game early in the season skews the stats. I might be just a biased Latvian passer-by, but it pains to see how abruptly the Silovs - Canucks honeymoon has ended. I totally get the "play the hot hand" strategy but some of the hate is just excessive.

 

[Kryten]

Just shows how significantly a bad game early in the season skews the stats. I might be just a biased Latvian passer-by, but it pains to see how abruptly the Silovs - Canucks honeymoon has ended. I totally get the "play the hot hand" strategy but some of the hate is just excessive.

He hasnt been very passable this season but what he did last playoffs was impressive. People that badmouth his playoffs by looking at save% are wrong

 

[Regal]

He hasnt been very passable this season but what he did last playoffs was impressive. People that badmouth his playoffs by looking at save% are wrong

The playoffs were largely good, and he made a number of great saves. It was mostly just his puck tracking on goals from distance that was a problem and that’s bled over into this season.

 

[AlainVigneaultsGum]

He's had a rough start, but I like Arty and think he'll bounce back.

 

[arttk]

Well yes I guess I do have a pretty good idea or used to but still some tidbits here and there. Ever learn "body language"?

And you can’t tell sarcasm

 

[theguardianII]

And you can’t tell sarcasm

Always hard without "hearing" the words spoken. Sort of like "WTF" when said angry and "WTF" when surprised, same words different meaning.