Post-Game Talk: GM 09 | Devils def. Canucks | 6-0 | Look at this light.

[WTG]

I think you probably made an accidentally wise decision. Did you get any questions right? That's more than the Canucks did.

Yeah we got third! Last week we won.

Did you know there are on average 500 seeds in a pumpkin?

 

[the big nobody]

Silovs = penile leakage.

Straight bum, send him to the AHL.

Who could replace him? Jiří Patera? Nikita Tolopilo? Rory Fitzpatrick? Fin?

 

[EpochLink]

Who could replace him? Jiří Patera? Nikita Tolopilo? Rory Fitzpatrick? Fin?

Someone who can make a save, guy ain't cutting it.

 

[VanJack]

A caller to the post-game, post-mortem show made a valid and interesting point.

For the price of the contract they gave to Debrusk, they could have brought Zadorov back. Ouch!

 

[bbud]

Sum this game up I needed better drugs to laugh and they sucked lol

 

[thekernel]

Had to miss this one tonight. Perhaps I should miss games less often

What the hell happened?

 

[biturbo19]

Yeah, Tocchet has to be careful to not get himself into a Bruce cycle where he's just swapping the lines around every night and leaves himself looking like a guy with no confidence or answers.

You've gotta put some lines together and trust that they're going to play out of it. Debrusk was signed for Pettersson, invest some time in trying to make it work.

Yeah. At some point, i think you've just gotta stick Petey and DeBrusk together and let 'em figure it out. There's too much there to believe that it simply can't work. But what absolutely will not work is just blendering and throwing AHLers and filler dudes with Pettersson and hoping it "gets him going". No offense to some of these guys.

Id argue a few things. The PP last year went stale when teams figured out pressure at the point to disrupt the Hughes quarterback led pp. the pp only got passable when Miller started being the qb. I dont even mind our guys being static on the pp, but the puck has to be moving to open up lanes. Having Miller, Hughes, Petey capable of snipes and bombs shouldnt have this much problems scoring with a man advantage. Double clutching and slow to pass allowing pressure are and have been hurting us. Now yes Petey whiffing or taking a fortnight to shoot isnt helping but he isnt the fundamental problem withthe pp

Yeah. Quite honestly, some great Powerplays are extremely predictable. It's not even that detrimental to have a "trigger man" who just lives in a spot like Stamkos/OV. It's not ideal, but it can absolutely work. But you need to have two key other things...


1)A true dual threat who can run the powerplay off the opposite half wall.

2)A true dual threat at the point who can move the puck deftly and put it on a tee for either half-boards flank, or put it on net themselves to at least create some chaos or ideally a credible scoring threat from up high.


I think we've more or less got #2 in Quin since he made it a point of emphasis to shoot more and got more aggressive walking down to do that (though weirdly, he always seems to do it on the LW half of the zone).

We've also got #1 in Pettersson, when he feels like paying attention.

And we've got our "automatic scorer" in JT Bozo who is terrific at scoring off that LW half wall or looping in to make plays there, even if it's not really "conventional" as a guy who isn't on his off-wing. And then we've got Boeser in the mix, who can play a real "joker" role as an offensive facilitator and a guy who can score from literally anywhere.


We're still kind of missing that real "bumper role" guy that they've never really replaced since Bowie. But that role really just needs a robust, smart complementary player to jacknife the PK box. I'm sure we've got someone who can do that somewhere.


But literally none of it works if you don't have Pettersson actually moving and looping and creating dilemmas for the PK box along that half wall. Forcing decisions between "get in the shooting lane" vs "get in the passing lane".


Like...great Powerplays just are not that complicated in theory. A lot of the best powerplays are actually stupid simple. Almost like exploiting a "glitch" in an EA NHL videogame. Like, did ya'll not watch the Oilers Powerplay last year and how stupid obvious it was...what they were trying to do? The problem is...if you have a Bouche Bomb from the top, a Draisaitl down low on his off-wing RW boards...and a McDavey making loops and moving and finding seams...it's insanely difficult to stop. You literally have more players than the other team...it's just about formulating a deliberate plan to exploit and expose that. You have to do things with intention.

 

[biturbo19]

Yeah we got third! Last week we won.

Did you know there are on average 500 seeds in a pumpkin?

I did not know that. And tbh that sounds like a hellish demonic version of "trivia" to me, personally.

Had to miss this one tonight. Perhaps I should miss games less often

What the hell happened?

It went bad. Mistakes were made.

 

[Grumbler]

Not surprising at all. We mortgaged away our future by gambling with the bad contracts last year. Expected result. I expect more of these types of games. It is not even surprising if we miss the playoffs.

 

[DFAC]

This team's identity last year was defensively sound and hard working - 2 aspects that have completely disappeared this year. The vibes are just off - not sure what's going on in that dressing room atm but they need to sort it out ASAP

 

[xtr3m]

As bad as today was, I still don't know if it was as bad as the 8-2 drubbing I went to in 2007 at the hands of the Flyers.

The Canucks had a 5 on 3 that game (and like 9 powerplays overall)...and got scored on shorthanded by Mike Richards Probably the most embarassing goal against I ever saw live.

I was at the Flyers game too!

Was it Upshall that crosschecked Kesler into the face in the closing minutes?..

 

[MS]

I was at the Flyers game too!

Was it Upshall that crosschecked Kesler into the face in the closing minutes?..

Jesse Boulerice.

 

[biturbo19]

Jesse Boulerice.

Jeeez, i'd definitely forgotten that guy existed.

 

[Svencouver]

Starting to entertain the idea that Pettersson is having a Ben Simmons level collapse as a player

 

[Ghetty Green]

Free post

 

[kanucks25]

Felt like a Benning era game, just demoralizing.

Stopped paying attention in the 2nd and didn't even watch the third.

Definitely one of those "throw it in the trash and forget about it" games but at the same time, all the main issues that have been discussed were front and center tonight and Lankinen wasn't there to hide them.

A half dozen players simply need to get their head out of their asses.

 

[David71]

This game reminded me of that ass kicking Chicago gave them in the 2010/2011 season, that team proceeded to lose to Arizona the next day.

Then the team got its shit together and went on a streak.

Here's to their ass kicking, go on a run.

nah this needs needs more than "1 ass kicking from the devils." let the california trip do them in. san jose is winnible. kings and ducks arent pushovers either. especially the ducks they have young fresh players on their roster could make the canucks defense shit their pants

 

[AzNightmare]

Had to miss this one tonight. Perhaps I should miss games less often

What the hell happened?

Little Hughes ganging up on older Hughes.
Been the story since Jack entered the league. Nothing new.

 

[AzNightmare]

Someone who can make a save, guy ain't cutting it.

lol, after 10 games, people were saying trade Demko.

This has "Spencer Martin" written all over it.

 

[bossram]

Glad I spent my time watching the Dodgers game and post-game coverage.

 

[biturbo19]

Felt like a Benning era game, just demoralizing.

Stopped paying attention in the 2nd and didn't even watch the third.

Definitely one of those "throw it in the trash and forget about it" games but at the same time, all the main issues that have been discussed were front and center tonight and Lankinen wasn't there to hide them.

A half dozen players simply need to get their head out of their asses.

Do you think they all have their heads in their own individual asses, or is it like a more collective thing as to the location of their heads?

 

[Leif Rohlin]

I'm not really convinced that it's a personnel thing. But they are clearly missing a top quality freelancer in the middle of it all.

Sprong.

But I agree personnel is not the issue and never has been.

 

[biturbo19]

Sprong.

But I agree personnel is not the issue and never has been.

Honestly, Sprong sucks donkey balls. I still don't understand what his job is here.


I can see a world where they thought he'd have that sort of skillset, but he doesn't really. He's not robust enough to play that role.

 

[the big nobody]

Sprong is too soft and defensively irresponsible to play in the bottom six, and not enough of a scoring presence to play in the top six. He has nowhere to play on this team.

 

[VanJack]

This team's identity last year was defensively sound and hard working - 2 aspects that have completely disappeared this year. The vibes are just off - not sure what's going on in that dressing room atm but they need to sort it out ASAP

Canucks brought in seven UFA's (count-em) and let three guys walk. And if you add in Bains, Silovs and Brannstrom who weren't here for most of last season that means a roster turnover of 13 guys.

Sorry fans, but no contending team makes that many changes to its roster in one off-season. That's virtually half your roster. Simply put, their performance isn't the same because it isn't the same team.

Looks like a lot of the experts were right. Just about everybody on the Canucks last year had a 'career year', including the coach. The curse of the 'Jack Adams Award' continues. Even Tocchet's not having a very good season so far.