Post-Game Talk: GM 09 | Devils def. Canucks | 6-0 | Look at this light.

Kryten

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@Bobby9 for Peteys money he made today. players get 13 biweekly payments throughout the year. He makes 11.6 a year, 892,307.69 biweekly so he really only made 63,736.26 before deductions today. Which is like my yearly earnings
 
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PavelBure10

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After watching Silovs in goal this year, I am in shock the Canucks took the Oilers to game 7 in the playoffs last season. Yikes.

What a embarrassing game, many players taken the night off. Might be a good way to get Tochett pissed and wake the whole team up. Maybe turn things around.

PP is atrocious and is not working.

Stars fell asleep for the night.

Huge props to Sherwood, Garland and Blueger for being virtually the only players who gave a f***.

Let's forget this one, it was ugly.

Goodnight all
 
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Jay26

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Boeser - 0 shots
Miller - 1 shot
Pettersson - 2 shots

Hughes is the only Canuck in the top 133 in the league in SOG on the season. He has 31 (good for 38th in the league) and had another 3 tonight..

This team, especially its top forwards, still struggles with generating shots on net. This was my main gripe in the playoffs but also earlier in the season. You have to be able to generate more, especially with as talented a core as this.
 

Bertuzzzi44

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Well DeBrusk didn’t gel well on PP1, Garland clearly doesn’t gel well on PP1, who’s next Hoglander? Our PP1 is just not good anymore, and hasn't been in a while. Maybe put Hronek back on the point with Hughes, worked well in the past and we won’t get scored on short handed as much.

Powerplay is supposed to be deadly for the Canucks, one of our strengths as a team, have to get it scoring at a much better clip.
 
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biturbo19

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That's not lore-accurate you uncultured pillock!
:laugh:

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But also idk what these dudes are.
 
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SeawaterOnIce

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Too much doom and gloom.

I have full confidence in Jim Benning to address the D. Juolevi is still projected to be a top pairing guy in a few years. Tryamkin and Rathbone are studs too.

Up front...we have talented forward prospects. Cole Cassels, Tyler Madden and Adam Gaudette are key guys to watch.

Nights like these are tough but it's important to see the bigger picture.
 

biturbo19

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Well DeBrusk didn’t gel well on PP1, Garland doesn’t work well on PP1, who’s next Hoglander? Our PP1 is just not good anymore, and hasn't been in a while. Maybe put Hronek back on the point with Hughes, worked well in the past and we won’t get scored on short handed as much.

Powerplay is supposed to be deadly for the Canucks, have to get it scoring at a much better clip.

I'm not really convinced that it's a personnel thing. But they are clearly missing a top quality freelancer in the middle of it all.

I think the much bigger problem is just...how glued to their "spots" everyone is. It's so infuriating to watch.
 

Ernie

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Every coach has a blind spot and Tocchet's most obvious one is that he thinks he's qualified to coach the power play. Even the way he talks about it "you gotta be hungry for pucks" etc is just wrong. It's all about movement and flow and the players clearly are not getting any help from the coaching staff right now. They aren't in sync at all.
 

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Every coach has a blind spot and Tocchet's most obvious one is that he thinks he's qualified to coach the power play. Even the way he talks about it "you gotta be hungry for pucks" etc is just wrong. It's all about movement and flow and the players clearly are not getting any help from the coaching staff right now. They aren't in sync at all.

Didn't Svejkovsky take over most of the PP duties?
 

wonton15

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Didn't Svejkovsky take over most of the PP duties?
Yes, and it looks even worse than a Tocchet led PP from last year.

Every time they decide to go Miller on right wall and freestyle the rest of the PP movement, it looks even worse than if they just rode the Miller left wall and Hughes up top set up. And don’t even start with me on the entries.
 
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bringbacktheskate604

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Sad sack of crap.

This loss was 1000000% on Tochett.



I seldom rant but putting Silovs in was just another of a long list of stupid moves he's made this year.



Putting bains in the top six despite every bit of data and past performances says how dumb that was.

Refusing to put Debrusk back on EP's line after refusing to let them try and actually build chemistry is stupid, same with taking him off pp1 or at least not putting him back on when he clearly isn't the problem.



Refusing to break up literally the worst pairing in hockey, a pairing that has been on for what 13 of the last 16 goals or some shit. Drop Hronek, elevate Brannstrom, try something because they have cost us at least 5 points already.



Again I never rant and I suppose people will just blame EP despite the two obvious fits in Sprong and Debrusk next to Garland and him getting zero opportunity.



EP is not without fault but they have clearly bungled how to get his mojo back, untie the lotto line, drop Brock next to him, go nuclear ffs.

With Calgary officially back to sucking Allvin needs to trade for Anderson, weeger, or even Pettersson, if they feel that Soucy/Myers is the only option at 3-4.

I'm not even exaggerating when I say everytime Soucy is on the ice he makes at least two mistakes. His game has dropped off a cliff and Myers isn't good enough to compensate.

I never once thought Soucy would be the worst dman on the team and because of it unless a move is made we're screwed since nobody but Hronek is good enough to possibly turn his game around, or make it passable.

I get it's one game but every issue I brought up has lingered around all season and I'm worried that Tochett is to stubborn or rigid to make the changes that I think most of us can agree need to be made.
 

biturbo19

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Hey at least our next games are against the Sharks and Ducks...

So that's basically like 2 guaranteed wins.

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Every coach has a blind spot and Tocchet's most obvious one is that he thinks he's qualified to coach the power play. Even the way he talks about it "you gotta be hungry for pucks" etc is just wrong. It's all about movement and flow and the players clearly are not getting any help from the coaching staff right now. They aren't in sync at all.

I think the biggest part of it is just that...any given team in this current cap era, you can only afford to "pay" so many truly creative, top-end impact players. The Canucks have 1 of them in Quinton Hughes and he's still trying his darndest to make that Powerplay do something. But it's just not enough. JT Miller is a weird...good PP player, but he's got very little creativity. He's just great at executing on the plan. Boeser has a great shot, but barely ever uses it properly on the PP.

Pettersson is the "X Factor" that is needed to make for an effective PP. When he's dialed in, he can be a simultaneously, a lethal shooting threat who can score from range or stickhandle his way into high danger areas and score from there. Or he can be a deft touch playmaker who tees it up for someone else completely across the ice or right on the doorstep with perfect timing. If he's just kinda goofing around there taking up space, he's basically just wasting everyone's time on the powerplay. But i don't know how you "fix" that, short of getting him going. Because nobody else on this team has that kind of ability to make it a "good powerplay". It's not a team deep in "creative" offensive players.
 
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thecupismine

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Every coach has a blind spot and Tocchet's most obvious one is that he thinks he's qualified to coach the power play. Even the way he talks about it "you gotta be hungry for pucks" etc is just wrong. It's all about movement and flow and the players clearly are not getting any help from the coaching staff right now. They aren't in sync at all.

If you go back to the start of last year's interviews, Tocchet talked a ton about motion, flow, and not having guys in set spots, and how he was trying to break the Canucks out of the whole wait for Miller to go downhill on the left side or Petey one times it on the right half wall.

They executed that perfectly at the start of last season, team's adjusted a bit to it, and the team's been completely out of answers since (trading Kuzmenko, who was particularly good at being a rover, didn't help). The players ended up reverting to old habbits and have gone back to just standing around in their spots (Petey is particularly guilts of being slow to move around and adjust).

Step one to resolving that is getting guys to move their feet, because if guys aren't even going to move, it's hard to start talking to them about movement and flow, which is why Tocchet's narrative likely changed from motion & attacking to being hungry for pucks.
 

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