TSN: Giordano's Contract Watch - initial ask is $9M/year

[Sparky93]

Trade him now, before it's too late! Let's bring in a young Iggy. Gio to the Sharks or Aves

 

[Ace Rimmer]

Something to consider about a $9 million x 5 year deal is it may make it unappetizing for a new team not located in Las Vegas to claim him in an expansion draft. Hell of a risky move to expose him, I admit.

 

[Taranis]

Meh give him 8.5 at 5 years and be done with it.

 

[Boumsalot]

Give him 4 years
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[Bosnian Beast]

Any expectation to have Gio signed for less than $7m AAV is ludicrous. I'd be happy to have Gio signed long-term anywhere between $7.5-8.5m AAV, if he somehow signs between $7-7.5m AAV I'd consider that a discount for his services.

I lol'd at some of the trade board reactions saying that Flames fans expect him signed for under $7m AAV... I think consensus here has been $7m+ for a few months now.

 

[CraigsList]

Any expectation to have Gio signed for less than $7m AAV is ludicrous. I'd be happy to have Gio signed long-term anywhere between $7.5-8.5m AAV, if he somehow signs between $7-7.5m AAV I'd consider that a discount for his services.

I lol'd at some of the trade board reactions saying that Flames fans expect him signed for under $7m AAV... I think consensus here has been $7m+ for a few months now.

They honestly have no idea how good Gio is, it's mind-boggling.

 

[Rangediddy]

Something to consider about a $9 million x 5 year deal is it may make it unappetizing for a new team not located in Las Vegas to claim him in an expansion draft. Hell of a risky move to expose him, I admit.

What's the compensation if he gets taken under that kind of contact? Might be worth the risk if it allows us to protect another player...maybe. Not like he's a superstar that will put fans in the seats, just a real good guy you know.

I'd be ok offering 9 mil for the first two years, and lowering it to 4mil in the last year. His age will be our best negotiating tool.

 

[Ace Rimmer]

What's the compensation if he gets taken under that kind of contact? Might be worth the risk if it allows us to protect another player...maybe. Not like he's a superstar that will put fans in the seats, just a real good guy you know.

I'd be ok offering 9 mil for the first two years, and lowering it to 4mil in the last year. His age will be our best negotiating tool.

No compensation, but it would allow protection of another player.

Like I said - pretty risky to do. Like playing with matches at the gas pump.

 

[Bouma Fett*]

A player turning 33 as a new contract gets 5 years MAX from me, preferably four. If he wants more than 5 years, I'd trade him. I'm dead serious too. Shouldn't be giving 6-8 year deals to players that age

 

[Taranis]

A player turning 33 as a new contract gets 5 years MAX from me, preferably four. If he wants more than 5 years, I'd trade him. I'm dead serious too. Shouldn't be giving 6-8 year deals to players that age

Yeah that would be rough but by year 6 maybe the smart move.

 

[HighLifeMan]

Oh don't get me wrong...I have zero expectation of the contract being similar to the one's in which I have proposed. I am expecting an AAV of around 8M, I just think we will putting the future in jeopardy with such a contract. A 36/37/38 year old Giordano at an 8M dollar cap hit is going to cause problems.

 

[TeMPZ]

Any expectation to have Gio signed for less than $7m AAV is ludicrous. I'd be happy to have Gio signed long-term anywhere between $7.5-8.5m AAV, if he somehow signs between $7-7.5m AAV I'd consider that a discount for his services.

I lol'd at some of the trade board reactions saying that Flames fans expect him signed for under $7m AAV... I think consensus here has been $7m+ for a few months now.

Term is way more important with this extension than AAV, so just saying "long-term" like you did above is way too vague.

For instance I'd give him $8.5m+ on a three year contract without batting an eye. I'd likely give him $8.0m+ on a four year deal without batting an eye too. But I'd be leary about giving him $7m+ on any deal longer than four years.

He'll be 36 in his fourth year of any extension we give him. History has proven that maintaining an elite level of play as a blueliner >35 is rare. There are maybe half a dozen examples of dmen who have had elite seasons deserving of that kind of money after their 36th birthday over the past ~10 seasons. It's pretty much limited to Lidstrom, Chara, Pronger, Zubov, Schneider and Rafalski. And the drop off at 37 is even steeper, you're pretty much looking at only first ballot HHOF caliber players at that point no matter how far back you go (Lidstrom, Bourque, MacInnis, Chelios, Harvey etc.).

His regression is unavoidable. If he wants term longer than four years we need him to accept a lower AAV. I'm hoping Treliving can make some magic happen.

 

[Lunatik]

Any expectation to have Gio signed for less than $7m AAV is ludicrous. I'd be happy to have Gio signed long-term anywhere between $7.5-8.5m AAV, if he somehow signs between $7-7.5m AAV I'd consider that a discount for his services.

I lol'd at some of the trade board reactions saying that Flames fans expect him signed for under $7m AAV... I think consensus here has been $7m+ for a few months now.

I think it depends on the term too, that can not be ignored.

 

[Zirakzigil]

I expected him to ask for this much or more in his initial offer. They will agree to something in the high 7s or low 8s. The length is what I am curious about.

 

[RobBrown4PM]

Gio better play like Keith and Pronger combined if he wants 9m.

7m/4-5y or less and you guys have a pretty good deal, anything more and you might be looking at a Brian Campbell situation.

 

[SmellOfVictory]

Something to consider about a $9 million x 5 year deal is it may make it unappetizing for a new team not located in Las Vegas to claim him in an expansion draft. Hell of a risky move to expose him, I admit.

He could be getting league max and he'd get snatched up in an expansion draft. He'd be guaranteed to be the best player on the expansion team by a wide margin.

 

[Wheels of Poirier]

Gio better play like Keith and Pronger combined if he wants 9m.

7m/4-5y or less and you guys have a pretty good deal, anything more and you might be looking at a Brian Campbell situation.

His level of play is not the issue; it's his long-term health imo, Gio arguably plays as well as a Duncan Keith when healthy... I'm fairly certain he'd have been a Norris finalist this year had he not missed the last 1/4 of the season, and nobody in their right mind would be balking at $9M if that was the case. That torn bicep will surely go down as the most expensive injury of Gio's career, when you think about it.

 

[CraigsList]

Gio better play like Keith and Pronger combined if he wants 9m.

7m/4-5y or less and you guys have a pretty good deal, anything more and you might be looking at a Brian Campbell situation.

Brian Campbell? Not even close.

 

[InfinityIggy]

He could be getting league max and he'd get snatched up in an expansion draft. He'd be guaranteed to be the best player on the expansion team by a wide margin.

Yep especially considering the contract will probably be front loaded.

 

[SaintMorose]

I'd love to see 5x 7.5M as the final contract.
Though based on recent signings he could potentially get 8

 

[SmellOfVictory]

I'd love to see 5x 7.5M as the final contract.
Though based on recent signings he could potentially get 8

I'd be okay with 6 years if it brings down the cap hit a decent amount. e.g. 6.5x6, which is slightly more money for him in total.

 

[tmurfin]

7.2AAV over 5 yrs.

9,9,8,5,5.

 

[I Hate Blake Coleman]

If Gio signs for 6.5, I'll eat my hat. He's going to get paid and rightfully so.

 

[Deen]

I honestly would consider trading him. I knew he would want big money. I just don't know if he is worth the risk. That is just my opinion though.

 

[SmellOfVictory]

If Gio signs for 6.5, I'll eat my hat. He's going to get paid and rightfully so.

I've heard the big thing with contracts is total dollars more than AAV. So maybe (maybe) by that logic he'd be more (or equally as) amenable to 39 mil over 6 years than 37.5 mil over 5 years.