Value of: Giordano

[DFF]

As a Florida fan I’d offer
1) Owen Tippett
2) Conditional 2023 first/2022 second based on making it to the conference finals and MG playing
3) a B prospect for your system
4) Nutivaara (to balance cap)

All this for 40 yrs old Gio?

 

[Larry Hanson]

Because that's how the rules of the league work. For 1 full season a player selected in expansion cannot be traded back to the original team with retained salary

Didn't know that, makes sense I suppose.

 

[Volica]

This starts at a first, and then we see additions based on the amount of parties interested.

 

[HoseEmDown]

You are clueless about the leaf players, Gio will get a first plus good prospect but your evaluation of the leafs players are laughable. Mikheyev is an excellent 3rd liner and dermott is a 4/5 on defense. They aren't superstars but they aren't cap dumps either.

Mikheyev may be a good 3rd liner but is a UFA in the summer. He's in the deal because Toronto would need to send cap back unless they get a 3rd team to retain 50% as well. Dermott is not a 4/5 on Seattle even after they trade Giordano. I don't think he's better than Oleksiak, Dunn or Soucy, he would be battling Fluery and Lauzon for playing time so would be a worthless addition because he may be a healthy scratch, he's in the deal for cap purposes as well. Seattle would take both players for cap purposes but that's it, they will not take them as value in the deal. There needs to be something along with the 1st that has called to Seattle.

 

[Hockey 4 Life]

Mikheyev may be a good 3rd liner but is a UFA in the summer. He's in the deal because Toronto would need to send cap back unless they get a 3rd team to retain 50% as well. Dermott is not a 4/5 on Seattle even after they trade Giordano. I don't think he's better than Oleksiak, Dunn or Soucy, he would be battling Fluery and Lauzon for playing time so would be a worthless addition because he may be a healthy scratch, he's in the deal for cap purposes as well. Seattle would take both players for cap purposes but that's it, they will not take them as value in the deal. There needs to be something along with the 1st that has called to Seattle.

Just don't see gio as a fit with the leafs.

 

[LeafChief]

As much as I like Giordano, the Leafs are probably looking at either elevating Liljegren (who has played really well) or acquiring a RHD to bolster the right side. Rielly Muzzin Sandin Dermott (plays both sides) pretty much makes up the left side unless someone else can slide right and we could make a pair out of Giordano-Brodie.

 

[wraparound]

I think a sleeper team to make a play for him is Anaheim depending on where they’re at in the standings at the deadline. The left side on the 3rd pair leaves a lot to be desired, and Gio would be a tremendous upgrade over Benoit/Mahura/Larsson, making their D lineup look something like:

Lindholm-Drysdale
Fowler-Shattenkirk
Giordano-Manson

Ducks even have the cap space to not need retention, making the cost to acquire him even lower, in theory.

 

[Mike Jones]

I think a sleeper team to make a play for him is Anaheim depending on where they’re at in the standings at the deadline. The left side on the 3rd pair leaves a lot to be desired, and Gio would be a tremendous upgrade over Benoit/Mahura/Larsson, making their D lineup look something like:

Lindholm-Drysdale
Fowler-Shattenkirk
Giordano-Manson

Ducks even have the cap space to not need retention, making the cost to acquire him even lower, in theory.

You make a decent argue for acquiring him but what or who is going the other way?

 

[wraparound]

You make a decent argue for acquiring him but what or who is going the other way?

honestly, I’m terrible at trade proposals. I’m sure Anaheim wants to avoid spending their 1st on a rental, but if a package could be put together with a few assets on each side to make it more of a “now & future” type of trade for both teams, that might make it more palatable.

 

[HoseEmDown]

honestly, I’m terrible at trade proposals. I’m sure Anaheim wants to avoid spending their 1st on a rental, but if a package could be put together with a few assets on each side to make it more of a “now & future” type of trade for both teams, that might make it more palatable.

2nd + Pastujov?

 

[LEAFANFORLIFE23]

As much as I like Giordano, the Leafs are probably looking at either elevating Liljegren (who has played really well) or acquiring a RHD to bolster the right side. Rielly Muzzin Sandin Dermott (plays both sides) pretty much makes up the left side unless someone else can slide right and we could make a pair out of Giordano-Brodie.

Rielly has and can play RD.

RD VS LD is MASSIVELY over rated

 

[LeafChief]

Rielly has and can play RD.

RD VS LD is MASSIVELY over rated

Rielly has tried RD and has been quickly moved back because it hasn't worked.

 

[wraparound]

2nd + Pastujov?

Pastujov is one of their more exciting wing prospects, so either Seattle would need to add (Geekie?) or Anaheim would send a different prospect instead like LaCombe or Thrun?

 

[AIexisLafreniereNYR]

Just get him to the Rangers. Get someone like Gio, and id love Gourde from Seattle but he’ll cost much but Rangers would he a serious contender

 

[abo9]

Seattle better trade him, one of the best rentals available and they need the futures that will come back. With talent spread so thin around the league, very few teams would not love to have an upgrade at D.

A retained David Savardfetched a 1st - I assume that Giordano gets at least that - perhaps a 1st and a B tier prospect from a contending team?

 

[The Marquis]

Would be absolutely silly for Seattle not to move him at this point before the TDL. 100% will be interested teams willing to move decent returns if Seattle retains. No question. What's Francis' track record on those types of moves. He's only ever been a selling GM at the TDL so I'm sure there's either evidence or lackthereof to support an expectation.

 

[HoseEmDown]

Pastujov is one of their more exciting wing prospects, so either Seattle would need to add (Geekie?) or Anaheim would send a different prospect instead like LaCombe or Thrun?

I didn't say McTavish I said Pastujov. He isn't that hyped where Seattle would add a 23 year old who's already producing in the league with more upside on top of possibly the best rental defenseman. I Anaheim doesn't want to move a 1st you need to put up one of Pastujov, Tracey or Perreault.

 

[wraparound]

I didn't say McTavish I said Pastujov. He isn't that hyped where Seattle would add a 23 year old who's already producing in the league with more upside on top of possibly the best rental defenseman. I Anaheim doesn't want to move a 1st you need to put up one of Pastujov, Tracey or Perreault.

ok take Tracey lol

 

[HoseEmDown]

ok take Tracey lol

I think they would consider a 2nd + Tracey. I don't follow Ducks prospects but he seems to be doing well in the AHL this season. He doesn't have the offensive upside that Pastujov has but he seems like a safer pick to be an effective middle 6 player.