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canswetoxic said:
Excuses.
These german players wouldn't even made into this Canadian team roster.
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Actually, I don't think this was an excuse.
This really is a weak roster by Canadian standards (even for this tournament) and he says that they still should have scored more goals, so he is not just blaming the weak roster.

The only Canadian player I liked in this game was Nick Paul. There is a lot wrong with this Canadian team that goes way beyond the players that were available.
 
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Germans are channelling their 2018 Olympic run.. good for them. FTR.. I still think Canada is a medal threat despite how bleak it looks today.
 
No one should be making excuses for Canada losing because of the roster but nothing wrong with calling a spade a spade, the roster sucks (for Canadian standards).
 
Czechboy said:
Germans are channelling their 2018 Olympic run.. good for them. FTR.. I still think Canada is a medal threat despite how bleak it looks today.
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I don't think so.

When I saw the roster, I didn't see a lot of experienced skill, and virtually no skilled 1st line or PP threats.
 
Zamboni Parade said:
German players being interviewed atm seem really into this tournament. Great to see, I was kinda worried about how motivated they'd be playing this weird edition in front of empty stands.
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Based on what I heard before the tournament, I think if anything they're especially motivated because they see an opening for Germany to get something out of it given the 'weirdness' and the less than great rosters from some of the big nations.

This probably applies to a lot of the 'smaller' countries hence some of the upsets so far.
 
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serp said:
Well Seider and Reichel are recent first round picks. There's a decent chance they end up better than most if not all of this Canadian roster.

In the end if a team doesn't score on 2 full two miute 5 on 3 powerplays there must be something very wrong with the coaching and the effort.
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And how many top picks does Canada have? Even if it’s a young team, that’s not an excuse. Slovakia brought the second youngest team with 2 2004 borns and still beat Russia today. Why isn’t Power impacting this tournament the ways that Kakko and Hughes did in their draft year? Connor Brown was on pace for a 30 goal season in the NHL, why isn’t he taking over?
Reichel has looked better than every Canadian player including guys drafted at a higher position and above him in the same year
 
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Lambo said:
But Germany almost a DEL-Team.
It's not that bad for the much-mocked DEL. ;)
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The ranking of AHL vs. Euro leagues is one thing. Anyway what would we say, if players like Posch, Rode or Terodde are send to WC. I wouldnt care.
 
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Antiillafire said:
And how many top picks does Canada have? Even if it’s a young team, that’s not an excuse. Slovakia brought the second youngest team with 2 2004 borns and still beat Russia today. Why isn’t Power impacting this tournament the ways that Kakko and Hughes did in their draft year? Connor Brown was on pace for a 30 goal season in the NHL, why isn’t he taking over?
Reichel has looked better than every Canadian player including guys drafted at a higher position and above him in the same year
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Connor Brown is a hard worker but not particularly skilled. He needs complementary linemates (like Stutzle, Batherson, Tkachuk and Norris) to succeed.

I've followed the WCs for my entire life, I know the players on this team and just because they play in the NHL doesn't mean it's the right mix of guys to do well at the World Championships.
 
Antiillafire said:
And how many top picks does Canada have? Even if it’s a young team, that’s not an excuse. Slovakia brought the second youngest team with 2 2004 borns and still beat Russia today. Why isn’t Power impacting this tournament the ways that Kakko and Hughes did in their draft year? Connor Brown was on pace for a 30 goal season in the NHL, why isn’t he taking over?
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I don't know ? They should be better. Like i said they only scored 2 goals in 3 games and the powerplay despite beeing on the ice half of this game did absolutely nothing. Seriously those blown 5 on 3 are inexcuseable . Also i'm not Canadian fyi .
 
Canada loses to Latvia & Germany
Sweden loses to Belarus & Denmark
Finland loses to Kazakhstan
Russia loses to Slovakia
Czechs lose to Switzerland

The f### is happening?
 
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NyQuil said:
I don't think so.

When I saw the roster, I didn't see a lot of experienced skill, and virtually no skilled 1st line or PP threats.
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Yeah, there are some good NHL players on the team but no star player talent really. But after this crazy NHL season it seems there wasn't too much interest to go to Europe, quarantine and then play a tournament in front of empty stands.
 
NJ07102 said:
Yeah, there are some good NHL players on the team but no star player talent really. But after this crazy NHL season it seems there wasn't too much interest to go to Europe, quarantine and then play a tournament in front of empty stands.
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Anyway, it's a good story and good motivation for some of the other more unlikely European countries to go for Gold.
 
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NyQuil said:
Anyway, it's a good story and good motivation for some of the other more unlikely European countries to go for Gold.
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Russians with their NHL reinforcements probably should still be heavy favorites despite losing to the Slovaks.
 
Handlethepasses said:
Every year we have like 1 or 2 upsets but this year it's different.
Should probably start betting
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The overall rosters are less good thanks to COVID still beeing a thing so teams that actually had camp and prepared have an advantage over teams that didn't . The skillgap is just not as big this year to make up for the lack of preparedness.
 
NyQuil said:
I've followed the WCs for my entire life, I know the players on this team and just because they play in the NHL doesn't mean it's the right mix of guys to do well at the World Championships.
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What i would ask myself as Canadian. Why do Canadian star players tend to say no to invitations? Especially compared to Russia. Players like Ovechkin or Kovalchuk always came over after their season in NA ended.
 
HungryFrank said:
Some North American hockey fans are funny. First they say top European leagues are weaker than AHL. Then they send a team of mid-6 NHL players, lose to European teams and then say: Oh we didn't have top NHLers
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Not as funny as watching the German commentary on Sport1 :laugh:

But yeah, amazing hockey league here: I can see that when I watch DEL. Passing, shooting, Goaltending, all top!

Surprised more guys like Tobi aren't continuing to light up the NHL.
Weird that only 2 German guys were in the Top 10 DEL scoring. Dominated by undersized, 30-something ex-NHL/AHL players. Those guys must just love Germany so much, they don't wanna play in AHL/NHL anymore.

Congrats to Germany on the win.
 
Bure80 said:
What i would ask myself as Canadian. Why do Canadian star players tend to say no to invitations? Especially compared to Russia. Players like Ovechkin or Kovalchuk always came over after their season in NA ended.
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There’s no real WC tradition in Canada because we’ve hosted it once in a hundred years, were not allowed to bring NHLers for a good portion of that history, and it’s on in the afternoons and conflicts with the NHL playoffs.

Canada got better luck recently with selections as Hockey Canada emphasized it as a potential factor in selecting players for the best on best tourneys.

But this year was always going to be tricky with players spending a fair amount of time in COVID bubbles.
 
Handlethepasses said:
Canada loses to Latvia & Germany
Sweden loses to Belarus & Denmark
Finland loses to Kazakhstan
Russia loses to Slovakia
Czechs lose to Switzerland

The f### is happening?
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I'm pretty happy about it. At least more and more countries are competing for the medals apart from the typical elite 5.
 
All this attitude by german posters after this game is sad to see. I am german and I also think DEL players are better than admitted by most other countrymen (not only canadian).

that win was a tremendous effort by a less skilled but in no way overwhelmed team. Germany had great composure, dtermination and a fair amount of talent whilst the game could have taken a different direction very easily. There are reasons though why it did not and neither team should ignore these.

In the end Canada desperately needed this one and played their best game of the tournament so far and Germany still came out on top. That tells me more about the german team than the canadian.
 
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