Germany all time team
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Hagen = Dieter 'Didi' Hegen?
Don't think the fourth line makes the cut, especially Nico Sturm.
Overall, it's really tough to compare those who never bothered with the NHL to those who did. Does a decent NHL-career with some good but not great seasons in Europe beat a very good to great career in Europe?
Plenty of the best German players never tried to make it to the NHL, because it just wasn't all that common for Europeans at that time. And that's before getting into the trouble of trying to judge players from the 1920s or 30s. Gustav Jaenecke and Rudi Ball were among the best Europe had to offer at that time and should probably be on this team.
Post WW2, Alois Schloder or Ernst Köpf would be other candidates. Mirco Lüdemann would be a candidate on defense, though I don't think he could get past any of the six mentioned above.
Funnily enough, Jaenecke was also a good Tennis-player who won the German championship once. Truly a different time.
Don't think the fourth line makes the cut, especially Nico Sturm.
Overall, it's really tough to compare those who never bothered with the NHL to those who did. Does a decent NHL-career with some good but not great seasons in Europe beat a very good to great career in Europe?
Plenty of the best German players never tried to make it to the NHL, because it just wasn't all that common for Europeans at that time. And that's before getting into the trouble of trying to judge players from the 1920s or 30s. Gustav Jaenecke and Rudi Ball were among the best Europe had to offer at that time and should probably be on this team.
Post WW2, Alois Schloder or Ernst Köpf would be other candidates. Mirco Lüdemann would be a candidate on defense, though I don't think he could get past any of the six mentioned above.
Funnily enough, Jaenecke was also a good Tennis-player who won the German championship once. Truly a different time.
PanniniClaus
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This would really require some research. One name that stands out for me is Ernst Hofer. He led Germany in scoring at the 1984 Canada Cup so automatically he's at least on the third line here.
Goaltending and D looks solid... be a big battle for the 6th spot.
Eye of Ra
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Funny timing with this thread for me. I am currently working on putting together my teams of the decade from Germany.
But so far I have only finished my team for the 70s and am half way through the 80s.
I haven't really seen any of hockey in the 70s, but there is enough information available so I gave it a shot.
The 80s are the first decade where I have actually watched some hockey and it is fun to come across so many names I had forgotten about, but were some of my favourites at the time.
Maybe, once I have finished at made it all the way to today, I will try to create my all-time team. However, there will definitely be an asterisk to it, not only because I won't consider players from before the 70s (maybe I'll include the 60s, but it's doubtful), but also because I will not consider any GDR players.
But I really like @Eye of Ra 's team, even if I would most likely change a few minor positions. I also pretty much agree with the comments from @Sanderson and @PanniniClaus . Those are some good points and Höfner could certainly merit to be included. But it always depends where you put your emphasis on. Which tournaments do you value more than others, is NHL success more important that play for the national team? Is peak performance more important than longevity?
I will probably end up making two teams. One team, with who I believe to be the best German players of all time, and one team with the most significant players for the national team. Some of the NHL guys who have had few appearances with the national team, might not make the latter one, while some guys who played almost every year of their career at the World Championships and in every Olympics might make that one even if they were not on the same level as the NHL guys.
But so far I have only finished my team for the 70s and am half way through the 80s.
I haven't really seen any of hockey in the 70s, but there is enough information available so I gave it a shot.
The 80s are the first decade where I have actually watched some hockey and it is fun to come across so many names I had forgotten about, but were some of my favourites at the time.
Maybe, once I have finished at made it all the way to today, I will try to create my all-time team. However, there will definitely be an asterisk to it, not only because I won't consider players from before the 70s (maybe I'll include the 60s, but it's doubtful), but also because I will not consider any GDR players.
But I really like @Eye of Ra 's team, even if I would most likely change a few minor positions. I also pretty much agree with the comments from @Sanderson and @PanniniClaus . Those are some good points and Höfner could certainly merit to be included. But it always depends where you put your emphasis on. Which tournaments do you value more than others, is NHL success more important that play for the national team? Is peak performance more important than longevity?
I will probably end up making two teams. One team, with who I believe to be the best German players of all time, and one team with the most significant players for the national team. Some of the NHL guys who have had few appearances with the national team, might not make the latter one, while some guys who played almost every year of their career at the World Championships and in every Olympics might make that one even if they were not on the same level as the NHL guys.
