OT: General Video Game Discussion IX
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I have a tank mindset for games so fighter works for me. Plus it branches out to spec the class the way I want to play.
I'm a shit mage. Barb is fun for a bit but is basically rage then bash/stab because they are too dumb to do anything else. Healers aren't fun. Screw those goody two shoes Palys. The steath/backstab Rouge dynamic is too much work (depending on the game it can be really wonky). Ranger is just a mage arrows instead of spells.
Then there is the Bard, where I can be my chaotic neutral self and get away with it, because it's really hard to fail rolls with their class perks and charisma base stat. It's easy mode for the noncombat part of the game.
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My Oath of Vengeance paladin was certainly not a goody two-shoes. Unless you think The Punisher is a goody two-shoes? I basically played the Lolth-sworn drow version of that.
Or maybe you could say he was a Batman who, instead of avoiding killing, avoids not killing.
I've played with really strict DM with Paly oaths. It was a bit of forced roleplay but made things interesting when his powers didn't work because it wasn't meeting the terms and services of the oath. Same game where the cleric couldn't heal when the party went all murderhobo. That as the game where it was learned not to rule laywer a chill DM. The slow burn revenge he pulled with this was pretty epic.
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I'm not sure whether I view that DM as a hero or villain, but I love the story.
I'm a huge fan of roleplay constraints like oaths. dogmas, and pacts, especially when the character chafes at them in some situations. I wish my regular DM would enforce them more frequently, honestly.
The DM a total hero, he was just making a point. He left us some outs so it wasn't a party wipe unless we were dumb. I got to be creative with my bard and had a lot of fun. Chaotic neutral is so fun if you really lean into it.
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I usually like that it's a little bit of Swiss army knife kind of thing. Ranged, but can melee, a little stealth, but you usually get a little heal or two type thing as well. For some reason it's just plhhtth in this game.
Dunno. It's been 10 years since I've really been able to play a PC game and maybe my tastes have changed since then. My last PC build was a long time ago. Then I had overheating issues and stopped playing for a long time. Didn't have the money at the time to build a new one and then gaming wasn't a priority enough to spend the kind of coin I used to put into the PC's I'd build. Needed a new laptop anyways, so I got one that was good enough to play BG3 on til I could build a new desktop. I'm shocked that it's been doing great.
Also...I get that cleric isn't supposed to really be there for damage, but the one (probably doesn't matter, but trying to be as vague as I can for Wabit) in this game is a useless, mouth breathing piece of s***. She misses more often than she hits anything and honestly, her heals are weak enough that she almost seems not worth it. I can't tell you how many times I've blurted you, 'You f***ing asshole.' Would be nice if there was another option.
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Sounds like some of the random healers I've gotten when doing blind groups in dungeons for MMOs.
Ranger in most DnD rule-sets is a limited combat class. Basically everything they can do a mage can do better (until they run out of spell slots). For the pets/woodland stuff a Druid is better. For melee dps rouge and fighter types outclass them.
Most DMs I know steer people away from Ranger as the starter class. The players just end up feeling useless in a lot of battles. The make a decent 2nd class for a rouge or fighter to spec into.
I feel you on the pc. Mine is 10 years old and can't handle new games. I broke down and am building a new pc for school. A couple of the engineering programs just don't run very well and I need a 2nd moniter.
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Whoa, whoa. There is another option, you can respec her into a Life domain cleric and she becomes awesome at healing, or War and she becomes awesome at killing. Personally, I kept her as Trickery domain but did modify her slightly to give her slight of hand proficiency because my party's rogue and I had a little falling out over consent.
It's kind of funny how people end up with different opinions about companions. I did not mind her ability to pick locks, heal, and do the occasional damage. I think she was actually one of the most useful party members in my playthrough.
Now Minsc? I wish they'd just left that magnificent bastard in the past. He sucks in combat in this game, and is also less fun as a character than in the first two games.
Dumb question which should I play BG3 on DirectX or Vulcan? I don't know the difference between the 2 of them.
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Don't think it matters much. I went with DirectX since I know the product and am on a Windows PC. I did try Vulcan but I remember some kind of performance issue with it that went away with DirectX.
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So I have a few hours in BG3, still have the bug in my head. Found the wizard, warlock?, rouge, fighter, and cleric for companions.
I forgot how much I dislike the base game DnD rule set in comparison to the homebrews. It's like going from Shelby Mustang back to the stock v6.
I think I'm going to start over and reroll. I took the mage hand cantrip only to find out it's only usable once per long rest. WTF is that noise? A cantrip is an unlimited free use thing, not a limited use item thing.
The game has been fun so far. I did get a surprise the first time I camped and it was a nudist colony. I sold all the cloths as a gear management thing so I knew which slots needed useful items.
I forgot how much I dislike the base game DnD rule set in comparison to the homebrews. It's like going from Shelby Mustang back to the stock v6.
I think I'm going to start over and reroll. I took the mage hand cantrip only to find out it's only usable once per long rest. WTF is that noise? A cantrip is an unlimited free use thing, not a limited use item thing.
The game has been fun so far. I did get a surprise the first time I camped and it was a nudist colony. I sold all the cloths as a gear management thing so I knew which slots needed useful items.
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Wow, you must be in the early game then.
As you've found, the game does not exactly follow DnD 5e rules. Potion drinking is a bonus action, Mage hand has some weird once-per-short-rest thing going on, etc.
I love that your desire to manage an inventory had unforeseen consequences. Strip down anything far enough, and you'll be surprised what kind of jank can occur. On a totally unrelated note, why haven't you given me access to stream your playthrough, yet?
I don't have the new pc setup for streaming yet. It was an on my list of things to do, but got pushed aside because we went to the games con in MKE last weekend. I started the game because I wanted to see how a new game looked on my rig, and this is the only high rez game I own.
That con was fun. We got to play a lot of pinball and old arcade games. Tried out a couple of board games The wife finally got to play Loranna, she has just been buying the cards because they are Disney and cute. It was neat to talk to some game devs and authors that were there pushing their wares.
Yes, we dressed up. The wife got to wear her jedi outfit. She got me a whip and put together an Indy outfit from one of my nice hats and normal clothes. Now she's talking about going to the renfair this summer, so pretty sure shes going to start sneaking some stuff for that in the amazon orders.
Clair Obscur: Expedition 33.
Wow. Reviews have been great for this game, but even before the release i was excited for it. Super early in the game so far, but this feels like a GOTY winner (not a contender... winner). Everything is hitting. Interesting story (super somber and dark), fun combat, and a stellar soundtrack. (Edited out my comment about the graphics. They are great all around. I think my initial intent for that comment was that the PC looks a little stiff running around).
Might be the first game I've really been invested in since Elden Ring. Hope the stealth Oblivion drop (f you Bethesda, should have remastered Morrowind) doesn't put this game in the shadows.
Wow. Reviews have been great for this game, but even before the release i was excited for it. Super early in the game so far, but this feels like a GOTY winner (not a contender... winner). Everything is hitting. Interesting story (super somber and dark), fun combat, and a stellar soundtrack. (Edited out my comment about the graphics. They are great all around. I think my initial intent for that comment was that the PC looks a little stiff running around).
Might be the first game I've really been invested in since Elden Ring. Hope the stealth Oblivion drop (f you Bethesda, should have remastered Morrowind) doesn't put this game in the shadows.
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This game is on my list purely because of the reviews I've read. I'm playing Suikoden II, but once it's done Clair Obscur is next up... which is saying something since I've been queuing up a second playthrough of BG3 and continuing my first playthrough of Warhammer 40K: Rogue Trader.
Goddamn RPGs are just too many hours,
I bought one of the humble bundles I have an extra Frostpunk game key (Steam). Anyone want it?
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If no one else chimes in, I'll take it. If literally anyone else does, give it to them, It'll be a couple years before I can play it.
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