OT: General Video Game Discussion IX

Bard or fighter... that's a crazy decision lol. Cant even wrap my mind around it

I have a tank mindset for games so fighter works for me. Plus it branches out to spec the class the way I want to play.

I'm a shit mage. Barb is fun for a bit but is basically rage then bash/stab because they are too dumb to do anything else. Healers aren't fun. Screw those goody two shoes Palys. The steath/backstab Rouge dynamic is too much work (depending on the game it can be really wonky). Ranger is just a mage arrows instead of spells.

Then there is the Bard, where I can be my chaotic neutral self and get away with it, because it's really hard to fail rolls with their class perks and charisma base stat. It's easy mode for the noncombat part of the game.
 
I have a tank mindset for games so fighter works for me. Plus it branches out to spec the class the way I want to play.

I'm a shit mage. Barb is fun for a bit but is basically rage then bash/stab because they are too dumb to do anything else. Healers aren't fun. Screw those goody two shoes Palys. The steath/backstab Rouge dynamic is too much work (depending on the game it can be really wonky). Ranger is just a mage arrows instead of spells.

Then there is the Bard, where I can be my chaotic neutral self and get away with it, because it's really hard to fail rolls with their class perks and charisma base stat. It's easy mode for the noncombat part of the game.
My Oath of Vengeance paladin was certainly not a goody two-shoes. Unless you think The Punisher is a goody two-shoes? I basically played the Lolth-sworn drow version of that.
Or maybe you could say he was a Batman who, instead of avoiding killing, avoids not killing.
 
My Oath of Vengeance paladin was certainly not a goody two-shoes. Unless you think The Punisher is a goody two-shoes? I basically played the Lolth-sworn drow version of that.
Or maybe you could say he was a Batman who, instead of avoiding killing, avoids not killing.

I've played with really strict DM with Paly oaths. It was a bit of forced roleplay but made things interesting when his powers didn't work because it wasn't meeting the terms and services of the oath. Same game where the cleric couldn't heal when the party went all murderhobo. That as the game where it was learned not to rule laywer a chill DM. The slow burn revenge he pulled with this was pretty epic.
 
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I've played with really strict DM with Paly oaths. It was a bit of forced roleplay but made things interesting when his powers didn't work because it wasn't meeting the terms and services of the oath. Same game where the cleric couldn't heal when the party went all murderhobo. That as the game where it was learned not to rule laywer a chill DM. The slow burn revenge he pulled with this was pretty epic.
I'm not sure whether I view that DM as a hero or villain, but I love the story.

I'm a huge fan of roleplay constraints like oaths. dogmas, and pacts, especially when the character chafes at them in some situations. I wish my regular DM would enforce them more frequently, honestly.
 
I'm not sure whether I view that DM as a hero or villain, but I love the story.

I'm a huge fan of roleplay constraints like oaths. dogmas, and pacts, especially when the character chafes at them in some situations. I wish my regular DM would enforce them more frequently, honestly.

The DM a total hero, he was just making a point. He left us some outs so it wasn't a party wipe unless we were dumb. I got to be creative with my bard and had a lot of fun. Chaotic neutral is so fun if you really lean into it.
 
Ranger in most DnD based games is a solid and super strong choice. But I agree... it can get a bit boring. Especially a ranged ranger.
I usually like that it's a little bit of Swiss army knife kind of thing. Ranged, but can melee, a little stealth, but you usually get a little heal or two type thing as well. For some reason it's just plhhtth in this game.

Dunno. It's been 10 years since I've really been able to play a PC game and maybe my tastes have changed since then. My last PC build was a long time ago. Then I had overheating issues and stopped playing for a long time. Didn't have the money at the time to build a new one and then gaming wasn't a priority enough to spend the kind of coin I used to put into the PC's I'd build. Needed a new laptop anyways, so I got one that was good enough to play BG3 on til I could build a new desktop. I'm shocked that it's been doing great.

Also...I get that cleric isn't supposed to really be there for damage, but the one (probably doesn't matter, but trying to be as vague as I can for Wabit) in this game is a useless, mouth breathing piece of s***. She misses more often than she hits anything and honestly, her heals are weak enough that she almost seems not worth it. I can't tell you how many times I've blurted you, 'You f***ing asshole.' Would be nice if there was another option.
 
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I usually like that it's a little bit of Swiss army knife kind of thing. Ranged, but can melee, a little stealth, but you usually get a little heal or two type thing as well. For some reason it's just plhhtth in this game.

Dunno. It's been 10 years since I've really been able to play a PC game and maybe my tastes have changed since then. My last PC build was a long time ago. Then I had overheating issues and stopped playing for a long time. Didn't have the money at the time to build a new one and then gaming wasn't a priority enough to spend the kind of coin I used to put into the PC's I'd build. Needed a new laptop anyways, so I got one that was good enough to play BG3 on til I could build a new desktop. I'm shocked that it's been doing great.

Also...I get that cleric isn't supposed to really be there for damage, but the one (probably doesn't matter, but trying to be as vague as I can for Wabit) in this game is a useless, mouth breathing piece of s***. She misses more often than she hits anything and honestly, her heals are weak enough that she almost seems not worth it. I can't tell you how many times I've blurted you, 'You f***ing asshole.' Would be nice if there was another option.

Sounds like some of the random healers I've gotten when doing blind groups in dungeons for MMOs.

Ranger in most DnD rule-sets is a limited combat class. Basically everything they can do a mage can do better (until they run out of spell slots). For the pets/woodland stuff a Druid is better. For melee dps rouge and fighter types outclass them.

Most DMs I know steer people away from Ranger as the starter class. The players just end up feeling useless in a lot of battles. The make a decent 2nd class for a rouge or fighter to spec into.

I feel you on the pc. Mine is 10 years old and can't handle new games. I broke down and am building a new pc for school. A couple of the engineering programs just don't run very well and I need a 2nd moniter.
 
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I usually like that it's a little bit of Swiss army knife kind of thing. Ranged, but can melee, a little stealth, but you usually get a little heal or two type thing as well. For some reason it's just plhhtth in this game.

Dunno. It's been 10 years since I've really been able to play a PC game and maybe my tastes have changed since then. My last PC build was a long time ago. Then I had overheating issues and stopped playing for a long time. Didn't have the money at the time to build a new one and then gaming wasn't a priority enough to spend the kind of coin I used to put into the PC's I'd build. Needed a new laptop anyways, so I got one that was good enough to play BG3 on til I could build a new desktop. I'm shocked that it's been doing great.

Also...I get that cleric isn't supposed to really be there for damage, but the one (probably doesn't matter, but trying to be as vague as I can for Wabit) in this game is a useless, mouth breathing piece of s***. She misses more often than she hits anything and honestly, her heals are weak enough that she almost seems not worth it. I can't tell you how many times I've blurted you, 'You f***ing asshole.' Would be nice if there was another option.
Whoa, whoa. There is another option, you can respec her into a Life domain cleric and she becomes awesome at healing, or War and she becomes awesome at killing. Personally, I kept her as Trickery domain but did modify her slightly to give her slight of hand proficiency because my party's rogue and I had a little falling out over consent.

It's kind of funny how people end up with different opinions about companions. I did not mind her ability to pick locks, heal, and do the occasional damage. I think she was actually one of the most useful party members in my playthrough.

Now Minsc? I wish they'd just left that magnificent bastard in the past. He sucks in combat in this game, and is also less fun as a character than in the first two games.
 

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