OT: General Video Game Discussion IX

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I always go sorcerer since the magic "scales" (for lack of a better term with CHA) with charisma and as my main character I like having a super smooth talking / persuasive PC which is also CHA based.

Congrats on Elden Ring. Thinking of trying the other Fromsoft games? After a break I'm sure. Combat is just as good, story is stronger (but still couched in NPC conversations and item descriptions) but not open world... although there are generally a few choices on where you want to go.
Yeah Sorc was the class i went with. Cant really tell the difference between Sorc and Wizard. Im really hoping the tips or whatever when toggled helps out alot.

I do plan on playing more. I wanna eventually playthrough the DS series but want a bit of a break and really wanted to give BG3 a run. I think if i do play more i feel like i need to get a controller for a bit of a better experience.
 
What class did you go with in BG3? @BagHead

I spent like an hour and half creating my character today only to scrap it and wait till tomorrow. Thinking about doing a elf/wood elf with draconic powers. But the Wild magic (?) i think its called seems kinda cool and good for drice rolls. Game seems a bit complicated at first glance.
Lolth-Sworn Drow, Oath of Vengence Paladin. I'm playing the character like a completely unsubtle version of Batman, only instead of never killing my enemies, I always kill them. As a Lolth-sworn drow he loves killing, but he's doing it for Good. Next playthrough I think I'll go rogue, try to do as much as I can without killing or getting caught.
 
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Lolth-Sworn Drow, Oath of Vengence Paladin. I'm playing the character like a completely unsubtle version of Batman, only instead of never killing my enemies, I always kill them. As a Lolth-sworn drow he loves killing, but he's doing it for Good. Next playthrough I think I'll go rogue, try to do as much as I can without killing or getting caught.
The toon sounds kinda cool. The class and subclass i have no clue what it means though lol
 
Yeah Sorc was the class i went with. Cant really tell the difference between Sorc and Wizard. Im really hoping the tips or whatever when toggled helps out alot.

I do plan on playing more. I wanna eventually playthrough the DS series but want a bit of a break and really wanted to give BG3 a run. I think if i do play more i feel like i need to get a controller for a bit of a better experience.
Sorc is charisma based and doesn't have to prepare spells (but their list of usable spells is much less). Wizard is INT based and you have to prepare/memorize spells
 
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Yeah Sorc was the class i went with. Cant really tell the difference between Sorc and Wizard. Im really hoping the tips or whatever when toggled helps out alot.

I do plan on playing more. I wanna eventually playthrough the DS series but want a bit of a break and really wanted to give BG3 a run. I think if i do play more i feel like i need to get a controller for a bit of a better experience.
When youre ready, totally get needing a break. My own personal soulsborne rankings...

Ds3 (with the excellent dlc)
Sekiro
Bloodborne
Elden Ring
Demon's Souls (remake)
Ds1
Ds2

I feel bad putting Ds2 at the bottom of the list. It'll be on the bottom of most every From fan list, but it's easily the game I've spent the most time with. It's good in It's own right, the DLC is VERY good.... but it is a little disjointed.

I love all of the games.
 
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The toon sounds kinda cool. The class and subclass i have no clue what it means though lol
Paladin is a melee class, still built around STR or DEX, but with some degree of casting power which uses CHA. They're considered a "half-caster" compared to the sorcerer "full-caster". Oaths are the subclasses for paladin, like how sorcerer has Wild magic, Storm, etc. Their oaths are a set of tenets they HAVE to follow, and their oath is accounted for in the game. If you do an action that breaks your oath, you become an Oathless paladin (it's not a perfect representation, but the easiest way to think of it is as an evil paladin). I liked the paladin for a first playthrough because of how binding their oaths are to roleplay. I can't just pick the "best" solution to a problem, I have to pick "my" solution.


Oath of Vengence, per the Player's Handbook:
The Oath of Vengeance is a solemn commitment to punish those who have committed a grievous sin. When evil forces slaughter helpless villagers, when an entire people turns against the will of the gods, when a thieves' guild grows too violent and powerful, when a dragon rampages through the countryside – at times like these, paladins arise and swear an Oath of Vengeance to set right that which has gone wrong. To these paladins – sometimes called avengers or dark knights – their own purity is not as important as delivering justice.

The tenets of the Oath of Vengeance vary by paladin, but all the tenets revolve around punishing wrongdoers by any means necessary. Paladins who uphold these tenets are willing to sacrifice even their own righteousness to mete out justice upon those who do evil, so the paladins are often neutral or lawful neutral in alignment. The core principles of the tenets are brutally simple.


If you side with the Absolute in ANY way, you break this oath. Learned that while experimenting early. I wanted to test the game to see if it would actually break my oath, and it does. Freaking awesome. I actually picked it because I was curious what would happen with my companions. Turned out I only had to kill one of them, abomination that he was.
 
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Paladin is a melee class, still built around STR or DEX, but with some degree of casting power which uses CHA. They're considered a "half-caster" compared to the sorcerer "full-caster". Oaths are the subclasses for paladin, like how sorcerer has Wild magic, Storm, etc. Their oaths are a set of tenets they HAVE to follow, and their oath is accounted for in the game. If you do an action that breaks your oath, you become an Oathless paladin (it's not a perfect representation, but the easiest way to think of it is as an evil paladin). I liked the paladin for a first playthrough because of how binding their oaths are to roleplay. I can't just pick the "best" solution to a problem, I have to pick "my" solution.


Oath of Vengence, per the Player's Handbook:
The Oath of Vengeance is a solemn commitment to punish those who have committed a grievous sin. When evil forces slaughter helpless villagers, when an entire people turns against the will of the gods, when a thieves' guild grows too violent and powerful, when a dragon rampages through the countryside – at times like these, paladins arise and swear an Oath of Vengeance to set right that which has gone wrong. To these paladins – sometimes called avengers or dark knights – their own purity is not as important as delivering justice.

The tenets of the Oath of Vengeance vary by paladin, but all the tenets revolve around punishing wrongdoers by any means necessary. Paladins who uphold these tenets are willing to sacrifice even their own righteousness to mete out justice upon those who do evil, so the paladins are often neutral or lawful neutral in alignment. The core principles of the tenets are brutally simple.


If you side with the Absolute in ANY way, you break this oath. Learned that while experimenting early. I wanted to test the game to see if it would actually break my oath, and it does. Freaking awesome. I actually picked it because I was curious what would happen with my companions. Turned out I only had to kill one of them, abomination that he was.
(In classic overaggerated nerd voice)

Curious.... if you were doing this around a table .... how do you make a LOTH sworn DROW good?

Your DM would have a half an eyebrow raised, lol
 
(In classic overaggerated nerd voice)

Curious.... if you were doing this around a table .... how do you make a LOTH sworn DROW good?

Your DM would have a half an eyebrow raised, lol
I'm not sure I'd make the argument that he's good. It's not valor, it's violence. He doesn't redeem enemies, he removes them.

BTW, how was sorcerer in BG3? Pretty fun to play? I chose not to because I was playing one in a tabletop campaign at the time, but I might have to pick it up in another playthrough someday. @Sad People I'd love to hear from you on that, too.
 
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I'm not sure I'd make the argument that he's good. It's not valor, it's violence. He doesn't redeem enemies, he removes them.

BTW, how was sorcerer in BG3? Pretty fun to play? I chose not to because I was playing one in a tabletop campaign at the time, but I might have to pick it up in another playthrough someday. @Sad People I'd love to hear from you on that, too.
I only have 15 - 20 hours in, it was fun, but got sidetracked with other games i want to finish before devoting a half a lifetime to BG3. Obviously any magic user is going to be a little weak early on.... I just love the dialog options available with 18+ charisma.

I need to find a table in the worst way.
 
Sorc is charisma based and doesn't have to prepare spells (but their list of usable spells is much less). Wizard is INT based and you have to prepare/memorize spells
Cool cool. I think ill still roll with sorc.
When youre ready, totally get needing a break. My own personal soulsborne rankings...

Ds3 (with the excellent dlc)
Sekiro
Bloodborne
Elden Ring
Demon's Souls (remake)
Ds1
Ds2

I feel bad putting Ds2 at the bottom of the list. It'll be on the bottom of most every From fan list, but it's easily the game I've spent the most time with. It's good in It's own right, the DLC is VERY good.... but it is a little disjointed.

I love all of the games.
Sekiro ive heard is a fantastic game but one of the harder if not the hardest. I think id wait to play that one after the DS series and would probably going in chronological order. Demons Souls and Bloodbourne (ive heard its a top notch game as well and usually peoples favorite) arent on PC atleast i think. And i honestly think id 100% ER before moving on.
Paladin is a melee class, still built around STR or DEX, but with some degree of casting power which uses CHA. They're considered a "half-caster" compared to the sorcerer "full-caster". Oaths are the subclasses for paladin, like how sorcerer has Wild magic, Storm, etc. Their oaths are a set of tenets they HAVE to follow, and their oath is accounted for in the game. If you do an action that breaks your oath, you become an Oathless paladin (it's not a perfect representation, but the easiest way to think of it is as an evil paladin). I liked the paladin for a first playthrough because of how binding their oaths are to roleplay. I can't just pick the "best" solution to a problem, I have to pick "my" solution.


Oath of Vengence, per the Player's Handbook:
The Oath of Vengeance is a solemn commitment to punish those who have committed a grievous sin. When evil forces slaughter helpless villagers, when an entire people turns against the will of the gods, when a thieves' guild grows too violent and powerful, when a dragon rampages through the countryside – at times like these, paladins arise and swear an Oath of Vengeance to set right that which has gone wrong. To these paladins – sometimes called avengers or dark knights – their own purity is not as important as delivering justice.

The tenets of the Oath of Vengeance vary by paladin, but all the tenets revolve around punishing wrongdoers by any means necessary. Paladins who uphold these tenets are willing to sacrifice even their own righteousness to mete out justice upon those who do evil, so the paladins are often neutral or lawful neutral in alignment. The core principles of the tenets are brutally simple.


If you side with the Absolute in ANY way, you break this oath. Learned that while experimenting early. I wanted to test the game to see if it would actually break my oath, and it does. Freaking awesome. I actually picked it because I was curious what would happen with my companions. Turned out I only had to kill one of them, abomination that he was.
Paladin honestly sounds cool. Especially for RP purposes. Ive thought about it a bit of what kind of toon i wannna play but i truly have no idea. Id like to be a smooth talker and get what i want in conversations but i would also like to be able to hold myself in fights, i dont wanna be weak per se in fights and would like the best of both worlds. Thinking maybe Solider might be a good background for me because itd give me proficiencies in that area (i think) then since im Charisma based that should help me already with the conversations. And yeah ill keep yall posted on how its going, maybe not as in depth or as often as ER but i will.
I only have 15 - 20 hours in, it was fun, but got sidetracked with other games i want to finish before devoting a half a lifetime to BG3. Obviously any magic user is going to be a little weak early on.... I just love the dialog options available with 18+ charisma.

I need to find a table in the worst way.
I wish i could find a table for D&D. Ive been wanting to play or its something thats peaked my interest for a long time i just dont know ANYONE who plays. Maybe BG3 scratches that itch.
 
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Sekiro is my favorite From game...Elden Ring came close, but Sekiro was so damn cool. It was hard but fair. If you died it was typically on you for making a mistake. I was a bit overwhelmed when it came to trying to level up correctly and do the right weapons in Dark Souls 1/etc. so it was kind of nice that you don't need to worry about what to use. Maybe I'll try playing that again sometime soon.

Playing the Tales of Arise DLC right now and it's getting interesting. Fun to get back to this game that I liked so much. Still have Spider-Man 2 to get to and thinking about trying the Star Ocean 2 remake.

Hope you guys enjoy your BG3 playthroughs, like I had said earlier it's one of my favorite games of all time. There's so much good but one of the best parts is to have a game where your dialogue options are actually things you are thinking in your head. What they say makes sense and they don't try to change the language to meet the setting or whatever. I feel like some of the games with the worst dialogue change the language to sound old and it becomes painful to listen to. The great part about BG3 is how they make the talking so normal.
 
I wish i could find a table for D&D. Ive been wanting to play or its something thats peaked my interest for a long time i just dont know ANYONE who plays. Maybe BG3 scratches that itch.
I need to find a table in the worst way.
If my table doesn't get back together, and it's looking like it might not due to our next DM having life blow up on him, I'd be down to group up online. My group's been playing through Roll20.net, while using Discord for voice and video. That's worked well for me because being a husband, a dad of two small children, a full-time worker, and a college student, I can't really find much time to meet up at an in-person table. Also because of those reasons, I don't have enough time to DM, otherwise I'd look into doing that myself.

That's my long way of saying, if you guys need to fill seats at a "table", my butt's probably available.
 
If my table doesn't get back together, and it's looking like it might not due to our next DM having life blow up on him, I'd be down to group up online. My group's been playing through Roll20.net, while using Discord for voice and video. That's worked well for me because being a husband, a dad of two small children, a full-time worker, and a college student, I can't really find much time to meet up at an in-person table. Also because of those reasons, I don't have enough time to DM, otherwise I'd look into doing that myself.

That's my long way of saying, if you guys need to fill seats at a "table", my butt's probably available.
Itd be rad i just dunno if i could commit to something like that. I'll keep it in the back of my mind though.

Also part of the reason why i have hard a time finding a table, along with not knowing anyone who plays.
 
If my table doesn't get back together, and it's looking like it might not due to our next DM having life blow up on him, I'd be down to group up online. My group's been playing through Roll20.net, while using Discord for voice and video. That's worked well for me because being a husband, a dad of two small children, a full-time worker, and a college student, I can't really find much time to meet up at an in-person table. Also because of those reasons, I don't have enough time to DM, otherwise I'd look into doing that myself.

That's my long way of saying, if you guys need to fill seats at a "table", my butt's probably available.
Itd be rad i just dunno if i could commit to something like that. I'll keep it in the back of my mind though.

Also part of the reason why i have hard a time finding a table, along with not knowing anyone who plays.

You could split the difference and go to one of the online sites and join a couple 1 hitter (single session) games. It's like test drive to see if you even like playing digital or not. The groups will just be random (good luck) but if you're old school you might miss the little things: rolling you lucky dice then putting them in jail when the roll fails, bribing the GM with snacks, punching your buddy in the arm when he does something stupid, LARPing out a big moment, etc.
 
If my table doesn't get back together, and it's looking like it might not due to our next DM having life blow up on him, I'd be down to group up online. My group's been playing through Roll20.net, while using Discord for voice and video. That's worked well for me because being a husband, a dad of two small children, a full-time worker, and a college student, I can't really find much time to meet up at an in-person table. Also because of those reasons, I don't have enough time to DM, otherwise I'd look into doing that myself.

That's my long way of saying, if you guys need to fill seats at a "table", my butt's probably available.
I'd def be down. When I said table I meant roll20, finding a group of nerds is hard enough, finding a group of nerds close to each other is probably dangerous near impossible.

Full disclosure, never played tabletop so am an absolute noob. Although grew up with the books and video games and have countless hours listening to actual play DnD/pathfinder podcasts
 
Whats yalls opinions on save scuming in this?

Full disclosure, never played tabletop so am an absolute noob. Although grew up with the books and video games and have countless hours listening to actual play DnD/pathfinder podcasts
Me neither. So id be a complete noob as well. I might be down in the future but i cant commit to it right now. Maybe after the holidays or spring.
 
I wish I could say otherwise, but I'm a savescummer .... especially on my 1st playthrough. I want to see and do as much as possible that first one. Subsequent playthroughs not so much, kind of more character driven if that makes sense.
 
I'd def be down. When I said table I meant roll20, finding a group of nerds is hard enough, finding a group of nerds close to each other is probably dangerous near impossible.

Full disclosure, never played tabletop so am an absolute noob. Although grew up with the books and video games and have countless hours listening to actual play DnD/pathfinder podcasts
Nobody knows what they're doing their first time, it's cool. Three years ago, I'd only ever played games like Neverwinter Nights, Baldur's Gate, etc., too.
I wish I could say otherwise, but I'm a savescummer .... especially on my 1st playthrough. I want to see and do as much as possible that first one. Subsequent playthroughs not so much, kind of more character driven if that makes sense.
And to be clear, I think this is also a valid way to play, I just found myself enjoying it more the less I did it.
 
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Couple early things I noticed about it.

Writing and interactions with BG3 already seems to be top notch. I understand what @Dee Oh Cee said by you get options of things your thinking in your head and it’s really neat. Like I said asking Shadowheart a few questions and she seemed agitated at me the more I pressed and sure as crap a dialogue to option came up that was something along the lines up “I realize I’m bugging you buyouts a bit so I’ll drop it”

Combat is a big of a struggle along with game mechanics but I’m sure in time I’ll catch on hopefully.

Music is great

Combat animations are really cool

Really cool just exploring and coming across what I’m assuming is a necromancer after opening up his tomb and finding a lvl3 necromancer spell along the way. I can see how play through would take forever.

Not a fan of rogue so far. I can’t get his move set down. Or understand how to go into hiding and use surprise attacks to my advantage yet. I can see how it can be strong but I’m not there yet.
 
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Not a fan of rogue so far. I can’t get his move set down. Or understand how to go into hiding and use surprise attacks to my advantage yet. I can see how it can be strong but I’m not there yet.
If you keep playing that rogue character let me know how it goes, because that's one of my concerns. One of the things about stealth is that it's pretty powerful in tabletop because most GMs will just have you roll the dice once and count that as your stealth for the entire encounter, but BG3 rolls the dice every so many seconds instead, which introduces a bunch of extra chances for you to fail.

Luckily, Shadowheart is a Trickery domain cleric, so she'll get the spell "Pass Without Trace" eventually, which makes even armored characters decently stealthy, as long as they're near her.
 
If you keep playing that rogue character let me know how it goes, because that's one of my concerns. One of the things about stealth is that it's pretty powerful in tabletop because most GMs will just have you roll the dice once and count that as your stealth for the entire encounter, but BG3 rolls the dice every so many seconds instead, which introduces a bunch of extra chances for you to fail.

Luckily, Shadowheart is a Trickery domain cleric, so she'll get the spell "Pass Without Trace" eventually, which makes even armored characters decently stealthy, as long as they're near her.
I think id eventually wanna drop him for a druid if i come across one or a barb or something. I have that pass without trace spell so maybe i should try it today. Combat and all its mechanics are going over my head a bit still. Like i have a spell where you summon a battle axe, a longsword etc but i cant figure out how to use it for offense. It always seems to pass over that summons turn.
 
I think id eventually wanna drop him for a druid if i come across one or a barb or something. I have that pass without trace spell so maybe i should try it today. Combat and all its mechanics are going over my head a bit still. Like i have a spell where you summon a battle axe, a longsword etc but i cant figure out how to use it for offense. It always seems to pass over that summons turn.
The summon may be taking its turn on the same turn as it's caster. There'll be a little portrait for the summon next to its caster's portrait. Click on that during it's summoner's turn and see if it gives you control of it.
 
The rouge class looks like something I might take 3-5 levels of to compliment another class (fighter or ranger come to mind) in a multiclass build for a video game.

It's a decent class for a tabletop game, if you're a creative "lets see what happens if I do this" type of player. I mean nobody knows what to do when the rouge decides midbattle to sneak in a steal the giant's loincloth then runs away holding it like a flag in the wind.
 
The rouge class looks like something I might take 3-5 levels of to compliment another class (fighter or ranger come to mind) in a multiclass build for a video game.

It's a decent class for a tabletop game, if you're a creative "lets see what happens if I do this" type of player. I mean nobody knows what to do when the rouge decides midbattle to sneak in a steal the giant's loincloth then runs away holding it like a flag in the wind.
Youre pretty spot on. Ive leveled Astarion a few times along with me learning the mechanics a bit more and hes getting pretty strong. Stealth if you can get it off is pretty powerful it seems. I still think id like to replace him eventually but i dunno.

So things seem to be going pretty well for me in BG3 lol I got myself a GF in Shadowheart and a dog whom i just played fetch with in game. Wonder if im winning yet? lol

Jokes aside its a really really cool effin game. Bravo to Larian Studios.
 
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