Providence Bruins General Discussion thread XVIII

[Saxon Eric]

I look at that Providence roster and can't help but think they should be one of the better teams in the AHL.

For those in the know: am I wrong about the roster? And if not, what do you think the issue is?

Roster looks excellent on paper and underwhelming on the ice
I'm shocked how mediocre they've been
Boquist is a turnover machine
Special teams are terrible,really terrible
McLaughlin and Toporowski have disappointed
The team doesn't win many battles in the trenches,both ways
There's no hidden gems on D
Other than Bussi, Farinacci, Lysell, Merkulov and Kuntar the rest are meat and potato run of the mill AHL players
Megna isn't the Mayor
Tony Dick isn't Vinni Lettieri
And with Lohrei up there's no PMD that they'll play every day

 

[Blowfish]

Roster looks excellent on paper and underwhelming on the ice
I'm shocked how mediocre they've been
Boquist is a turnover machine
Special teams are terrible,really terrible
McLaughlin and Toporowski have disappointed
The team doesn't win many battles in the trenches,both ways
There's no hidden gems on D
Other than Bussi, Farinacci, Lysell, Merkulov and Kuntar the rest are meat and potato run of the mill AHL players
Megna isn't the Mayor
Tony Dick isn't Vinni Lettieri
And with Lohrei up there's no PMD that they'll play every day

Why do I feel this is a coaching problem?

 

[Saxon Eric]

Saxon Eric, I would like to hear you thoughts on Mast, Harrison, Brunet. Can they be returned to their Junior teams at this point? Are you concerned with the potential lack of development not playing consistently or in Maine.

Mast is at least getting consistent minutes in Maine even if he's on the 3rd pair

Hard for Harrison to get in a groove playing 4th line minutes every other game but he's done next to nothing ,not sure why he hasn't been loaned up to Maine, seems like a no brainer

Brunet has been getting more time due to injuries but they're sheltered minutes

There's a pecking order and these guys are last

Am I concerned? of course ,why even have an affiliation agreement if you're not gonna move
guys up and down

Kyle Keyser hasn't played since November 4,that doesn't help anyone

 

[Saxon Eric]

Why do I feel this is a coaching problem?

He's old school and he puts just as much effort getting Megna back to the show as he would getting Lysell

 

[BruinsFanSince94]

He's old school and he puts just as much effort getting Megna back to the show as he would getting Lysell

Fire Mougenel!

 

[Mr. Make-Believe]

He's old school and he puts just as much effort getting Megna back to the show as he would getting Lysell

Yeah from the outside it certainly FEELS like there's something wrong. Guys like Lauko, Steen, McLaughlin... They all get kinda buried in muck when they're down there but they all pass my eye test as being NHLers. And I'm sure there are many other examples as well.

They have a deep and talented roster and can't seem to get anything going.

Its difficult to reconcile.

 

[Kegs]

Yeah from the outside it certainly FEELS like there's something wrong. Guys like Lauko, Steen, McLaughlin... They all get kinda buried in muck when they're down there but they all pass my eye test as being NHLers. And I'm sure there are many other examples as well.

They have a deep and talented roster and can't seem to get anything going.

Its difficult to reconcile.

I find McLaughlin very under whelming at the nhl level. He is not an nhl player imo.

Why do I feel this is a coaching problem?

Because we like to blame the coaches when the players aren’t good enough.

 

[Saxon Eric]

 

[Blowfish]

Because we like to blame the coaches when the players aren’t good enough.

By all accounts the team looks disorganized from PK to PP ... maybe it is the players or that the players don't gel or that the coach and players don'g gel.

I'm going with coach. Some of the players showed well development camp. Not sure why that wouldn't continue with p bruins.

 

[Kegs]

By all accounts the team looks disorganized from PK to PP ... maybe it is the players or that the players don't gel or that the coach and players don'g gel.

I'm going with coach. Some of the players showed well development camp. Not sure why that wouldn't continue with p bruins.

These players aren’t kids. They have been playing hockey their whole lives. They should know how to play pp and pk by the time they hit the ahl. If they can’t grasp the bruins system then they probably just aren’t good enough to play in the nhl. I’m pretty sure they use the same systems in the ahl as they do in the nhl. So when they get called up they aren’t lost. I could be wrong though. Maybe the coach is terrible. Not like I get to watch a lot of ahl games.

We have been spoiled as bruins fans. Claude julien to Bruce Cassidy to Montgomery. All three are excellent. I think Cassidy was the best of the three for todays game to be honest. But Montgomery seems to be a players coach. I do think their systems bleed down into the ahl.

We always think the providence line up looks good at the start of the year but do we really know? How can we gauge every teams farm system and grade it? You would have to watch a lot of minor league hockey. Most people don’t even watch every nhl team play so I don’t expect any one to be watching enough minor league hockey to have an educated opinion on which teams are good before the season starts.

 

[Blowfish]

These players aren’t kids. They have been playing hockey their whole lives. They should know how to play pp and pk by the time they hit the ahl. If they can’t grasp the bruins system then they probably just aren’t good enough to play in the nhl. I’m pretty sure they use the same systems in the ahl as they do in the nhl. So when they get called up they aren’t lost. I could be wrong though. Maybe the coach is terrible. Not like I get to watch a lot of ahl games.

We have been spoiled as bruins fans. Claude julien to Bruce Cassidy to Montgomery. All three are excellent. I think Cassidy was the best of the three for todays game to be honest. But Montgomery seems to be a players coach. I do think their systems bleed down into the ahl.

We always think the providence line up looks good at the start of the year but do we really know? How can we gauge every teams farm system and grade it? You would have to watch a lot of minor league hockey. Most people don’t even watch every nhl team play so I don’t expect any one to be watching enough minor league hockey to have an educated opinion on which teams are good before the season starts.

Coaches get fired because they lost the room, never had the room, or unable to connect with the players. They could also be bad a communicating expectations when it comes to plays/processes. Like I said, by all accounts the players look disorganized on the ice.

Yes it's on the players but when I hear disjointed disorganized I lean towards coaches.

 

[Dr Hook]

Coaches get fired because they lost the room, never had the room, or unable to connect with the players. They could also be bad a communicating expectations when it comes to plays/processes. Like I said, by all accounts the players look disorganized on the ice.

Yes it's on the players but when I hear disjointed disorganized I lean towards coaches.

A big part of the coach job, especially at these higher levels is to put the players in the best position to succeed situationally, role, and linemate/d partner. I don't know what's going on here, but on paper they are a talented team with a mix of young and old solid AHL/NHL prospect talent. Maybe the coach is not using the players to their best effect. Or maybe the GM work has been poor in identifying good fits. It is too bad. I will say it again, I wish the Bruins owned Providence and were willing to run it at a loss if necessary in order to use it primarily as a development team for their young players.

 

[dangermike]

A question for consistent AHL viewers - is there a player who could slot in for lauko or steen if the 4th line skids? Idc about fighting but another option for a player who hits at a high rate would be good to be able to turn to.

 

[neelynugs]

I find McLaughlin very under whelming at the nhl level. He is not an nhl player imo.

like a lot of guys, i think MM could be fine on a 4th line. he apparently reached out
to cam to discuss what he can do to take the next step (not sure if it was him directly
or his agent). the response was be harder to play against/tougher/maybe add fighting
to the arsenal.

 

[PlayMakers]

A question for consistent AHL viewers - is there a player who could slot in for lauko or steen if the 4th line skids? Idc about fighting but another option for a player who hits at a high rate would be good to be able to turn to.

When Geekie is healthy they'll have one of Heinen/Geekie as a 4th line option.

Kuntar is an AHL option.

 

[Saxon Eric]

A question for consistent AHL viewers - is there a player who could slot in for lauko or steen if the 4th line skids? Idc about fighting but another option for a player who hits at a high rate would be good to be able to turn to.

Kuntar

 

[Saxon Eric]

McLaughlin from Farinacci and Toporowski
1-1

 

[Saxon Eric]

2-2
Toporowski from Farinacci and Walsh

 

[Saxon Eric]

Callahan unassisted 3-2
Abate from Kuntar and Brunet 4-2

 

[Saxon Eric]

Providence goes down 6-4...

 

[Blowfish]

Providence goes down 6-4...

Horrible....they were up 4 - 2. Brazeau was a minus 3.

 

[BlackFrancis]

Toporowski

Topo what now?

Is he new?

 

[Dangleittus13]

Man, if there was ever a thought about replacing Mougenel, last night would have been a great time to do so. Blowing that big of a lead late in the game. I attribute it to two things - playing a small set of players way too much throughout the game so in the crunch they just don’t have the umph needed to finish strong, and playing the wrong guys in the final minutes, ie Brazeau.

 

[slim399]

How has Regula been? Just looking at his stats doesn’t look like much for offense, but see he is a +9. I feel like the Bs could use a big tough RH D. Any potential there?

 

[bruinmann77]

Not impressed with their HC at all