Yeah I guess I just don't know what that relationship is. He's been great for Providence for the last two years and never got a taste of the NHL in this org.
I know a guy who played in the AHL for years and went to one of the top level euro leagues after that. Was point per game+ in AHL and put up a 100 point season as well, and only got a handful of nhl games. He’s told me that the difference in the speed of the passing and the speed of everybody else’s hands was just too much. He’s a super high hockey iq guy too, probably his best attribute, his hands just wouldn’t let his game translate.
I guess you could say Vatrano or Donato but they both didn't show much more than an average at best NHL game until their late 20's. You have to give credit where its due, they both grinded to get where they're at.
yep, again, I don`t think it`s a developing issue, I think it`s a talent issue, B`s miscalculating a players potential and missing on picks but the B`s also have a pretty solid history of drafting, developing players in rounds 2 and onward who go onto pretty solid roles with the big club
Yep, I think you nailed it. Be careful though there's probably still people around here who think Jared Knight and Zach Senyshyn would've been stars if it weren't for how Boston/Providence developed them.
Jared Knight's issues were medical. Had he not had complications with injuries and his diabetes, he was gonna be great. It's unfortunate.
No, he wasn't going to be great. He simply wasn't an NHL level player.
I'm no Knight fanboy like some people were.
Do you even remember his health struggles? Especially his diabetes? Do you remember is injuries? In fact, did you even watch in him or know of the player at all?
Maybe but others have overcome injuries and diabetes. I watched him play live many times when he was in the OHL and thought he'd become a good 3rd liner. If he really had NHL star talent then he would've made the league eventually despite the setbacks.
I watched him play live many times in the OHL and I'm guessing you didn't. It was obvious to anyone who wasn't a homer that he didn't have top 6 offensive talent. Saying he didn't have NHL level talent was a bit harsh but he was never going to be a star player.
I'm not even talking about the player specifically, and I certainly think most injuries are able to be overcome, but just seems... shortsighted to rule out a guy making it when he was derailed by an illness.
I watched enough of him to know that his health issues and injuries derailed his career. He would of made a fine 3rd liner *had* these things not derailled his career. We'll never know. And not every player with health issues can come back from it.
He had diabetes and started wearing a pump during games
Going tomorrow. 50/50 I drive out to Springfield Friday, too.
Vatrano but I'd put an asterisk on Donato because you could argue we maximized his value at that time. So we didn't give up on him anymore then we gave up on Dougie Hamilton.
I'd say it was highly unlikely he was going to be an NHL player. People got excited about a draft pick that was ranked in the 100’s at the time of his draft after an article about the diabetes and big back to back weekends in the ohl after getting on medication. I never bought the hype.
I also said in my next post that saying that was a bit harsh. However, there's been many players who I thought would become good 3rd liners who didn't make it so I wouldn't put too much stock into that. He was just barely over a ppg in his best OHL season, that's not going to translate to being great in the NHL. He just didn't have the offensive talent.
He might've become a fine 3rd liner as he had a solid two way game. His lack of offence might've also made him a 4th liner or AHL player. I really don't care now and no one chiming in will change my mind.
