Prospect Info: General Discussion of Prospects
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HaNotsri
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Unless they are top dmen prospects, dmen usually lower on that even if they have potential.
Icicle
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I thought stats guys have said NHLe applies to forwards only. Didn’t Bogosian tear up juniors?
Cozens NHLe is unfortunately not impressive. Hard league to judge. Good thing he is always being mentioned about what he is doing away from the puck. Real hockey IQ translates. Thing about ‘primary points’ for predictions is it fails on things like Mittelstadt, who played his formative years against poor competition and never learned what to do away from the puck. Though his college numbers leave his current state to no surprise, I still think Mittelstadt can get through that in time, but not sure we will still have his rights by the time he figures it out.
Cozens NHLe is unfortunately not impressive. Hard league to judge. Good thing he is always being mentioned about what he is doing away from the puck. Real hockey IQ translates. Thing about ‘primary points’ for predictions is it fails on things like Mittelstadt, who played his formative years against poor competition and never learned what to do away from the puck. Though his college numbers leave his current state to no surprise, I still think Mittelstadt can get through that in time, but not sure we will still have his rights by the time he figures it out.
Primary points as applied to major junior and European u20 and pro leagues is a solid evidence of what a player might produce in the future. It isn't infallible but it is an indicator that can corroborate what one sees.
Nor are Cozen's numbers unimpressive for a non-superstar top pick. Sometimes I wonder about comprehension around here.
Icicle
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Comprehension is unrealistic as well.
The 19 year old is producing what would likely translate to a mid 40s point season as a rookie. For a non-top 2 pick, that would be a great rookie season. That's just a prediction for the short term, not a prediction of who he will be at 22.
It has already been explained and the nhle tool has existed for around ten years. Read.
Bendium
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His NHLe has gone from 23 to 30 to 38 pts/yr over the last 3 years. This shows very good NHLe progression. He is at 1.5 pts/gm and continuing to improve. His 38 pts/yr NHLe only indicates that if you brought him up to the NHL today that he would likely score in that range if given similar minutes and role. So you let him continue to develop. If you extrapolate his progression you are looking at NHLe's of 45 next year in the OHL, 53 the year after in the AHL, and hopefully in the 60 pt/year and still improving the year after that. Now if you are looing for him to have Connor McDavid numbers as a 18 year old then yes, he is a complete disappointment.
If Cozens is quickly a 60-point player who plays a full 200' game as he has in junior and in international tournaments, that very much is a top line player. The holes that would fill in the current lineup and projected lineups is huge.
joshjull
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I’m curious to see if Cozens heats up again. He was fluctuating around 40 to 42 much of the year.
joshjull
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A few more prospects NHLe
Ruotsalainen (R2)
18-19 —> 26
19-20 —> 40
Does anyone know if he can play in Rochester next season? Or is it NHL or Finland again?
Pekar
18-19 —> 29
19-20 —> 33
It was 30 before the trade and his 10pts in 5gms. I imagine it will keep climbing while he plays with Byfield.
Anyone interested in NHLe conversion tool. I’ve used this one. NHLe Calculator - Frozen Tools
Ruotsalainen (R2)
18-19 —> 26
19-20 —> 40
Does anyone know if he can play in Rochester next season? Or is it NHL or Finland again?
Pekar
18-19 —> 29
19-20 —> 33
It was 30 before the trade and his 10pts in 5gms. I imagine it will keep climbing while he plays with Byfield.
Anyone interested in NHLe conversion tool. I’ve used this one. NHLe Calculator - Frozen Tools
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Routsalainen will be in North America next year. His Liiga deal expires.
joshjull
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Right now, he's our best option to be our other middle 6 C next year... (assuming we're stuck with Mojo as the other)
And he should've been this year...
From the pre-season games, he didn't stand out. His deal was such that it was NHL or Liiga and he didn't show enough in camp to point to being up.
I thought he showed more than enough in camp/preseason where he outplayed Mitts and Erod whom he was theoretically competing with.
but that was the big lie... when Botts said tenure/age wouldn’t be a factor in determining roster spots.
Well, we know the team has all sorts of inconsistencies with who they award playing time to, but I have to disagree - he did not impress nor did he outplay anyone. With the conditions of his deal, sending him back is fine.
Watching him again, still think he's NHL contract material, even if he is miniature. He certainly doesn't play that way.
And I wonder were Lamoges winds up. Kid is always around the puck.
Does anyone have a good read on how Laaksonnen has been this year. I confess to not checking a thing since last year. But it would be awesome if he hit.
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