TV: General Anime Discussion (Part 3)

Sun God Nika

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I just watched Dragon Ball Super: Broly and enjoyed it way more than the first two Super movies. Later this week I'll likely watch Super Hero.
Dragon Ball Super Broly is one of my favourite Dragon Ball Movies. Super hero was dope but I wish they stuck to Broly's animation style. Hopefully Dragon Ball Super comes back in anime/movie form I miss it. I dont wanna read the manga because I am just used to watching DBZ animated since childhood.
 

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While I don't mind Gear 5 as an upgrade to Luffy's moveset, I don't like the lore implications that come with it at all. Why did Oda have to turn him into a "chosen one" character? Pretty much every long running shonen series does this and its getting tiring. Another misstep in the terrible second half of One Piece. The series should have about a decade ago to be honest.
 

Sun God Nika

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While I don't mind Gear 5 as an upgrade to Luffy's moveset, I don't like the lore implications that come with it at all. Why did Oda have to turn him into a "chosen one" character? Pretty much every long running shonen series does this and its getting tiring. Another misstep in the terrible second half of One Piece. The series should have about a decade ago to be honest.
I mean the fruit has been in circulation for 800 years. People have likely ate it but they all failed to fulfill the true purpose of the fruit by awakening it . Obviously the story we are going to watch is the one where it succeeds.

Luffy has also had his fair share of failures being losing his bro, or running away with his tail between his legs from admirals. We always knew Luffy was going to be a force unless we are watching thinking there is a chance he wont achieve his dream.
 
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Finally finished Fullmetal Alchemist: Brotherhood.

Well worth the hype even though it took me like 15 episodes to truly get into it. The storyline unfolded very neatly with the last 20 or so episodes being constant action. I felt like the show had dozens of important characters so I was a bit worried how would everyone get their fair share, but it was done really well. Also the animation held up pretty well being an older anime. Tons of great characters and I liked almost all of them. Top characters for me: Hawkeye, Ling (/Greedling), Mustang, Edward

One of the better animes of all-time for sure. Not really sure where it falls in on my lists. Would probably be a lot higher if this was one of the first animes I watched. Also I know that people really like the dub version, but I just can't...so I watched the sub.

Of the current anime line-up, I've really enjoyed Zom 100. Not much else I currently watch. Just started Fruit's Basket so that'll keep me busy for a while.
So much better than the original anime version of the show, that's for sure. Just very well done and accomplished quite excellently. The best anime tend to be ones that follow the original manga storyline and do not deviate far from it, which is what the first show suffers from. Now people will keep on saying it is one of the best anime of all time in the same category as Cowboy Bebop. I loved me Fullmetal, but it gets so overhyped at times.
 

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Finished Trigun Stampede, great shit. As a fan of the original series (my cat was named Vash), it does a great job of telling a different but still similar story and sets up well for, hopefully, a second season. The returning voice work was spot on and the new ones were great as well, the animation was phenomenal.
 
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Speyer

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I mean the fruit has been in circulation for 800 years. People have likely ate it but they all failed to fulfill the true purpose of the fruit by awakening it . Obviously the story we are going to watch is the one where it succeeds.

Luffy has also had his fair share of failures being losing his bro, or running away with his tail between his legs from admirals. We always knew Luffy was going to be a force unless we are watching thinking there is a chance he wont achieve his dream.
I just always enjoied that Luffy, unlike other shonen protagonists, was just a regular type dude chasing his dreams and living a life outside the bounds of regular society. And now he is literally a chose one type character like all the others. Oda even doubled down on that trope by giving the straw hat itself major significance for the history of the one piece world. Hell even Sanji and (possibly) Zoro have been turned into nobles after the fact. In my opinion the series jumped the shark sometimes after the Thriller Bark story arc.
 

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Finished season 2 of Vinland Saga. I loved it but its definitely not for everyone. Very much a slow burn and it does take a while to get going.


Currently a few episodes into Monster (2003). It's definitely caught my attention and I don't really know where it's going at all.
 

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Fruits Basket Season 1 - 7/10
I had high expectations going into this one, but felt like the first season didn't deliver much. I don't care about the Soma family at all and actually dislike most of them. On the other hand Uotani and Hanajima were my favorite characters and their backstory episodes were the best ones of the season. There's a few of these blond girl+dark girl duos that I've enjoyed (Yuzuki+Makoto from Skip and Loafer and of course the GOAT duo Carol+Gundou from Tomo Chan is a Girl). Also Tohru is just a precious MC.
I will continue with the show though as I'm hoping it takes similar leaps to Oregairu in the later seasons, but the Soma family needs to give me something other than weird Digimon transformations.

Now I'll focus on continuing To Your Eternity (S1 EP5 destroyed me and I've been taking a break) and I'm also going to give Death Note a try.
 

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There's nowhere else to put this, so here's a Manga that I wanted to compare to its Anime adaptation.

Ping Pong by Taiyo Matsumoto - 4.5 (Brilliant)

Just finished reading this and loved it. A more reserved, tasteful and mature slice-of-life take on the sports shonen genre, less about techniques/matches, more about exploring psychological facets of growing up with sports such as talent, motivation, limitations, competition, and contentment. Great packaging, too.

My preconceived notions of how it compares to the Anime (which I do still think is an improvement and a masterclass in adaptation) are similar yet different from what they were before:

* I was partly wrong about aesthetic-- Ushio's soundtrack does dramatically heighten every scene, but while I assumed Yuasa had a bigger hand in the visuals, all the striking imagery is directly from the Manga, and framing/composition was 100% established by and worth solely crediting to Matsumoto.​

* All words from the Manga seem faithfully included and nearly identical in the Anime (albeit phrased more cleverly), and themes from the Anime are still hinted at in the Manga, but the meaning is a lot more vaguely understated and missable. One reason is the Anime expresses symbolism more potently, re-sequences context-clue flashbacks into more sensible placements in the show, and smartly withholds previously explicit background info in order to deliver them later as more impactfully climactic and revealing epiphanies.​

* Biggest difference is that 5-6 of the best scenes/threads from the show do not exist or aren't emphasized as strongly in the Manga, and these turn the characters Kong, Kazama, and even Sakuma from merely solid supporting characters into the story being an outright ensemble cast of 4-5 equally important/effective joint-main-characters instead of two primary ones. Kong in particular skyrockets into the being the best character in the show, IMO.​

These additions missing in the manga show:​
(1) Arguably the best moment in the show-- An incredible musical Christmas montage containing snippets that perfectly encapsulate every character,​
(2) Kong's attachment to his home/mother, his bonding with his team, and realization that life is more important than ambitions,​
(3) A vague/cryptic yet heartbreaking flashback-montage that hints at the upbringing that caused Kazama to prioritize the painful burden of responsibility/living for the sake of others above his own happiness,​
(4) Arguably the other best moment in the show-- The more explicit framing of the Peco vs. Kazama match as "People can fly" vs. "People can't fly" (it's hinted at, but outright makes you bawl in the Anime),​
(5) Peco's fire being re-ignited being more sensibly re-ordered in a way that's more efficient and gives Sakuma more of a spotlight,​
and (6) A disposable background character that loses early on becomes a really charming recurring bit about feeling directionless.​

* The only addition in the Anime that I think is actually worse is that they added a minor female character that is functional but not nearly as compelling as other characters.​
 

AuroraBorealis

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Bleach is so beautiful and high level since it returned, with the boosted budget and more production time per episode.
Kubo is working closely with the studio to get things right and the soundtrack is better than ever.
If I made a top 10 list of all-time fav Bleach eps, 4 are from 2022/2023.
That's saying something, considering they've only aired 21 out of 387 eps in that timeframe.

All the people who said Thousand Year Blood War was a shit arc and it wouldn't translate well to screen were dead wrong. I haven't enjoyed the show this much since the Soul Society Arc.
 

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Golden Time 8,5/10

I have no idea how this had escaped my radar before. It was a bit of an awkward start to the show, but the character arc for pretty much all of our main characters was well done. This ended up being one of the fastest I've watched a show, but that was mostly because I was hungover on Sunday and watched the last 13 eps in one go. One of those shows that stick with you for a while and you're just sad that it's over. I know these shows are very 'tropy', but there's just something heartwarming in romance animes that I can't get enough of.

Currently watching, archives:
Death Note (12 episodes in)
To Your Eternity S1 (13 episodes in)
Fruits Basket S2 (1 episode in)

Currently watching, new shows:
My Happy Marriage
Zom 100
Horimiya: Pieces
 

hoyster

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Finished a few shows, so I'll do my usual write-ups:

My Happy Marriage 7/10
This summer season hasn't been too good for the new romance anime genre and this was the only one I finished. I felt like MHM was a little boring even though it tried to be exciting with the fantasy elements, but it didn't really hit home with me. Still enjoyed some of the story and it did have some good characters.

Horimiya: Piece 9/10
I absolutely love these characters and was really excited to have one of the best rom-coms back. The pacing was understandably a little off, but we did get some great moments. Hopefully we'll still get and OVA of the final future part.

Wotakoi: Love Is Hard for Otaku 8,25/10
Really nice show with a little different setting. Would've loved to see some more development in the relationships, but in the end I was satisfied. Was missing a second season but I think the OVAs wrapped up their stories nice enough. The 3 OVAs are a must-watch, because IMO those were the 3 best episodes.

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For now I have dropped Fruits Basket. I got like 10 episodes into the second season, but I just couldn't take it anymore. My dislike for the Soma family just keeps going deeper and deeper to the point that I had to stop, which is a shame, because rest of the characters are really good.

I'm also close to dropping Death Note after like 22 episode, but I hear that episodes 25-27 (or something) should be really good, and then I'd only have like 10 episodes left, so I might just push through. The way that Light and L just somehow take the most ridiculous things into account is just stupid and I feel like there has been no progression to the plot in the first 20 episodes.

To Your Eternity is also on hiatus due to emotional damage, but I'll try to pick that back up.

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Any good new shows coming up this Fall? I haven't looked into the new shows, but I'm happy to have Spy x Family back and then of course we have Attack on Titan finale coming up.
 

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I decided to get Hulu and I am doing a Bleach run atm. I am watching all of it, fillers'n'all and I am currently in the middle of the Bount arc after finishing the GOAT Soul Society arc. It's definitely below canon, but still one of the better fillers of any show I have watched.
Fruits Basket remake was one of my favorite anime of 2021.
It's a good show that gets way too kawaii as it goes along for its own good. They also take the drag elements way too far, nobody cares if a bloke dresses as a girl in an anime (like no one). I finished the show, but I was so chequed out by the end of it. It just seems everything that went on ran as smoothly as possible to progress the storyline. Even the tough elements for character growth found a way to be very artificial in the end.
 
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hoyster

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I just don't get what's going on there? Where's this show going? What's the point of any of the Zodiac stuff? Maybe I just haven't paid enough attention, because I have no idea. It's been 30+ episodes and now I'm spending 3 episodes in a beach house where nothing seems to happen. The head of the Soma clan comes there to torment everyone (which she seems to have done all their lives), but why? Why is everyone putting up with her? The characters are just too dramatic for me and I can't find myself caring, because I have no clue what's everyone's motivation. I like my complicated romances and also the pointless slice of lifes and everything between, but this show doesn't seem to fall into any category for me.

I'd love to watch this same show without the Soma family and just focus on Tohru's growth as she adjusts into a life without her mother. Mix in some shenanigans from two great characters in Uotani and Hanajima. Their backstory episodes from season 1 were sooo good!
 

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