GDT: Canada-Finland, 3:30 p.m Local Time

[Doomsday Device]

And since this tournament format has been played, no team that has not gotten the bye has won the championship. It is not necessarily essential to get it, but the past speaks for itself. getting the bye to the semi's is only a benefit for the team, they don't want to be forced to play another playoff game which could result in elimination. They would also love to have Richards have a few more days off to rest along with other guys who I am sure have bumps and bruises at this point.

I think this is only the third time they've used this format, so there's isn't much history to speak of. And teams have won this tournament before without playing well in the preliminary round. Russia won the gold in 2002 despite losing to Canada and Finland in the round robin, by beating the two teams in the semi-finals and finals where it counted the most.

 

[The Legend]

YAY WAY TO GO CANADA AGAIN! WE'RE ON FIRE!!!!!!!!!!!

A good night for you, the Attack won 6-0, after beating the Knights last night. They're on quite the roll.

 

[ES]

I stopped watching after 2nd period. Canada was very good and scored great goals. I don't blame Hallikainen for goals except the SH one. Canada's 7th goal was a bit soft by Rask.

IIHF statistics show +/- for players. Canada won the game 7-0 if PP goals are taken out.

Canada:
Ladd 4
Coburn, Belle, Carter, Getzlaf, Syvret 3
Phaneuf, Weber, Bergeron, Richards 2
Crosby, Perry, Seabrook, Stewart, Dawes, Fraser 1
MacArthur, Dixon 0

Finland
Korhonen, Joensuu, Tukonen, Piispanen 0
Mäntymaa, Nokelainen, Seitsonen, Korpikoski -1
Hietanen, Kuukka, Hokkanen, Nurmi -2
Riska, Nabb -3
Honkaheimo, Tieranta, Kolehmainen -4
Marjamäki -5

 

[gib]

My late post game thoughts....Finland sucked big time.......in every aspect of the game. Just horrible to watch . I think Finland did give up not later than Canada scored second goal. Finns did nothing but gave brainless giveaways, fell to the ice without any reason, had no clue about offensive play nor defensive play. I don`t know is it just players fault or can´t mr. Dufva coach, but it seemed that players didin`t know what to do in the ice. Of course Canada dominated the game so obiviously that there wasn`t room for Finland to play their own game at all. The cap between these two teams was huge. I coulnd`t think that Canada would be that much better...they just did what ever they wanted on the ice.

About players........ Carter and Phaneuf stood above anone else! Carter especially made impression to me not only because he scored three goals but he if who is a classy player. He is artelss, he makes scoring goals look so easy and that is what makes him so effective. He will be great Captain for Flyers some years to come!

 

[pei fan]

Why they don´t let crosby play more often?

Because Sutter doesn't like him and Sutter has a major hardon for Carter and to
a lesser extent Richards.It was pretty easy to tell right from the start if you read between the lines of Sutters interviews.Then after the first couple of games when
the media were gushing over Crosby you could really tell Sutter was pissed off.
Sutter has progressively played him less and less in the tournament and every
game there is some excuse as to why.I have said all along that he would get 3rd
line icetime (but it's actually more like 4th line).The first game he did get about
16 minutes but Carter got more and Richards as much.After that though it's been
downhill and it's not just the total amount of icetime it's the length of shifts.You
can't get much done in 15-40 second shifts except get a faceoff in your opponents
zone and allow Carter or Richards to take it.Carter and Richards are played through
1 or 2 whistles regularly but Crosby has been taken off on every whistle with a
couple of exceptions.

Before anyone berates me for this post(and they will)go back and look at the threads prior to the official start.Most everyone was saying Crosby line would be # 1,with some saying it would be Richards line.I said then that Sutter was in lust with Carter and he would be played all the time.

I MADE ONE PREDICTION AT THE START OF THIS THREAD. CROSBY WOULD PLAY
VERY LITTLE AND GO SCORELESS.

 

[stockbroker]

Because Sutter doesn't like him and Sutter has a major hardon for Carter and to
a lesser extent Richards.It was pretty easy to tell right from the start if you read between the lines of Sutters interviews.Then after the first couple of games when
the media were gushing over Crosby you could really tell Sutter was pissed off.
Sutter has progressively played him less and less in the tournament and every
game there is some excuse as to why.I have said all along that he would get 3rd
line icetime (but it's actually more like 4th line).The first game he did get about
16 minutes but Carter got more and Richards as much.After that though it's been
downhill and it's not just the total amount of icetime it's the length of shifts.You
can't get much done in 15-40 second shifts except get a faceoff in your opponents
zone and allow Carter or Richards to take it.Carter and Richards are played through
1 or 2 whistles regularly but Crosby has been taken off on every whistle with a
couple of exceptions.

Before anyone berates me for this post(and they will)go back and look at the threads prior to the official start.Most everyone was saying Crosby line would be # 1,with some saying it would be Richards line.I said then that Sutter was in lust with Carter and he would be played all the time.

I MADE ONE PREDICTION AT THE START OF THIS THREAD. CROSBY WOULD PLAY
VERY LITTLE AND GO SCORELESS.

I have to give you credit. You were right.

Sutter definetely has a thing against Crosby. He forces him to play on the wing, and now he benches the tournaments best player. And you are right about the short shifts. On numerous occasions after setting up a faceoff in the opposing end he was pulled after a 20 second shift.

I never trusted Sutter to begin with to do the right thing. Guys like him can't relate to a phenom like Crosby.

 

[mikkoz]

Canada was so good, congratulations!

What i didnt like was really bad mistakes on own end, they couldnt get the puck out of the zone, or pass it and ending up looking clumsy and stupid. Canada is really looking professional.

 

[pei fan]

I have to give you credit. You were right.

Sutter definetely has a thing against Crosby. He forces him to play on the wing, and now he benches the tournaments best player. And you are right about the short shifts. On numerous occasions after setting up a faceoff in the opposing end he was pulled after a 20 second shift.

I never trusted Sutter to begin with to do the right thing. Guys like him can't relate to a phenom like Crosby.

And if yo do the wrong thing long enough you eventually get burned.Let's hope it
doesn't happen again to Canada but I'm concerned.

 

[Vic Rattlehead*]

Crosby didn't play much because he did not play well on most of his shifts. In one shift, he coughed up the puck twice! I think Sutter was trying to show that it doesn't matter what your name is, the only thing that is important is that people who play hard play, while those who don't play hard will see less ice time. Crosby certainly did not play hard in the first two periods.

 

[stockbroker]

Sutter, because he is so stubborn, even pulled Crosby from the Powerplay.
There is no possible explanation for this. It was because of spite.
Every time Crosby is on the powerplay they get numerous scoring chances.

Don Cherry may as well be the coach. The guys don't appreciate others with talent.

 

[stockbroker]

Crosby didn't play much because he did not play well on most of his shifts. In one shift, he coughed up the puck twice! I think Sutter was trying to show that it doesn't matter what your name is, the only thing that is important is that people who play hard play, while those who don't play hard will see less ice time. Crosby certainly did not play hard in the first two periods.

Just because he coughed up the puck doesn't mean he wasn't playing hard. Crosby wasn't given that much time from the onset.
How can he even get in a groove when he is given 20 second shifts.

 

[wilka91*]

There is no possible explanation for this.

There is.

Sutter is a good Canadian coach, and he thinks Crosby is a bad Canadian player (too small and too light).

He prefers to give the better players more ice time.

It is that simple.

 

[stockbroker]

There is.

Sutter is a good Canadian coach, and he thinks Crosby is a bad Canadian player (too small and too light).

He prefers to give the better players more ice time.

It is that simple.

Nice waste of a post. If you don't have anything constructive to say then take a hike.

 

[wilka91*]

All I know is that the Russian coach, whoever he is, would never bench Ovechkin.

 

[shakes]

All I know is that the Russian coach, whoever he is, would never bench Ovechkin.

That guy just looks like he will have a huge fit the first time he gets benched in the NHL. Maybe its that stupid reflective visor he wears.

 

[pei fan]

Crosby didn't play much because he did not play well on most of his shifts. In one shift, he coughed up the puck twice! I think Sutter was trying to show that it doesn't matter what your name is, the only thing that is important is that people who play hard play, while those who don't play hard will see less ice time. Crosby certainly did not play hard in the first two periods.

So how does that explain how little he played in the first 3 games or for that
matter how much Stewart and Dawes played(and others)when they weren't
playing great.The first game Crosby was awesome.He checked,backchecked,
forechecked all well,was amazingly stong in the corners,plus his offence was great.
Very next game he's on the bench.

BY the way SUTTER made a "show" of putting Stewart on the fourth line(it was
in the press beforehand)but after 2 shifts he was right back out there on the 2nd line.That line has played more than Crosby EVERY single game.Carter has basically
played 2or3 more games of icetime than Crosby(based on Crosby's icetime) .

How good would Crosby be in this Tournament if he had Carters icetime and length
of shifts and position of shifts(faceoff in opponents zone)Vice versa how good
would Carter be if he had Crosby's shifts,icetime and position of shifts?

 

[Chaos]

That guy just looks like he will have a huge fit the first time he gets benched in the NHL. Maybe its that stupid reflective visor he wears.

That is one of the coolest things I have seen. More players should wear them.

 

[wilka91*]

That guy just looks like he will have a huge fit the first time he gets benched in the NHL. Maybe its that stupid reflective visor he wears.

I have nothing against you, so I will not argue with you because there's nothing to argue about.

I'm here because stockbroker is a formerly banned flamer and want him banned again.

 

[Vic Rattlehead*]

I just hope a Crosby-Ovechkin arguement doesn't break out again. It's like watching children fighting.

 

[wilka91*]

I just hope a Crosby-Ovechkin arguement doesn't break out again. It's like watching children fighting.

If stockborker shows up, he'll start another. He's so good at it!

 

[triggrman]

:troll:

So you're trolling?

 

[wilka91*]

:troll:

So you're trolling?

Me? Of course not. I'm just saying that if Crosby was benched, then Sutter had a good reason. And I also added that Ovechkin would never get benched, because he's a leader and he'll give 100% no matter what!

 

[12# Peter Bondra]

IF this TURNS into another Crosby-Ovechkin thread, the thread=closed. So keep it clean.

 

[pei fan]

So how does that explain how little he played in the first 3 games or for that
matter how much Stewart and Dawes played(and others)when they weren't
playing great.The first game Crosby was awesome.He checked,backchecked,
forechecked all well,was amazingly stong in the corners,plus his offence was great.
Very next game he's on the bench.

BY the way SUTTER made a "show" of putting Stewart on the fourth line(it was
in the press beforehand)but after 2 shifts he was right back out there on the 2nd line.That line has played more than Crosby EVERY single game.Carter has basically
played 2or3 more games of icetime than Crosby(based on Crosby's icetime) .

How good would Crosby be in this Tournament if he had Carters icetime and length
of shifts and position of shifts(faceoff in opponents zone)Vice versa how good
would Carter be if he had Crosby's shifts,icetime and position of shifts?

So bruins19 I guess you don't have an argument for that.

 

[THE NEXT ONE #87]

I don´t understand why there is a debate between ovechkin and crosby. If u ask neutral european guys, they will say ovechkin is better. But hf is dominated by canadian writers. I´m a crosby fan but i know ovechkin is better than crosby. particulary when they play against each other in the nhl. ovechkin is the better stickhandler, skater (he is so fast), better 1 on 1, goalscorer, better balance, better physical play. On the other side, crosby sees the ice better, has better vision and anticipation.