GDT: GDT #9 Anaheim Ducks vs New York Islanders | October 29th | 7:00 PM | F/L 3-1
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periferal
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Put out a very pro "fire Lou ASAP" post on the "speculation/trade talk" thread and I'll bet you'll get a reply or two either wanting to "give the team more time," but probably twist it into an "anti-rebuild" argument.
However most notably you won't get as much support for that notion as you should. I've wanted Lou gone for years (basically ever since Trotz left) and I was lambasted by a bunch of cats on these boards. It's quieted because what was obvious to me then is staring everyone in the face now, and it's harder to run from.
Yet still a few will try.
Barzal does not belong in the same category as Dobson, Holmstrom and Wahlstrom. He’s the only offensive player out there generating anything
Throttle
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For a guy getting 21 mins on average a game, getting paid $9M, he’s a whopping 205th in the NHL in scoring with 3 PPP, he certainly doesn’t belong in that category - that’s god awful return from such a player. But, hey, keep building around him Isles, it’s going great.
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Maybe the problem is we’ve been shopping at Walmart all along? Maybe aim higher lol
Throttle
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Duke Bure wasn’t a needle mover and sure as heck can’t be considered a reason this team is lifeless and lame.
I remember some players being ‘pumped’ to play for Roy. Yeah, just more of the same.
Oh, don’t get me wrong - barzal’s been a disappointment for sure; but there are degrees of disappointing, and he’s nowhere near the degree of the others mentioned. It is staggering to me that anyone can watch this team and think a single other forward on this team is more of a net positive for this team than Barzal.
I’ve been a proponent of a significant change for a while as well, but I certainly don’t blame people who don’t necessarily want to blow up a playoff team, even if it was clear that their time had passed. I would think that missing the playoffs by a significant margin will be the push that is needed. I can’t imagine the owners, who’ve shown zero interest in questioning Lou, will fire Lou before the end of this season, and even then I’m not convinced.
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Pretty much agree with you. I'm hoping/praying that Malkin grows a spine and does what is necessary. If the obviously bleeding of this roster to mediocrity on its way to terrible isn't enough, maybe the falling attendance numbers does it.
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why once the novelty of this new arena wears off attendance is going to be even more dreadful than the dark days of the Coliseum, I drove for the first time on Saturday and what a disaster, 45 minutes sitting in congestion/traffic each way, have to wait in line for a bus to take me closer to the arena and same after the game but a longer wait time, and obviously similar thing if you take mass transit, who is going to want to do this when the Islanders are mediocre or worse and when the weather is significantly colder?
islesfan186
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I’ve watched one game so far this season (opening night). Between work, taking care of a 7 month old, and the team’s general poor performance, I’ve got no motivation to watch. Shame I already paid the $110 dollars for ESPN+
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I believe the Dobson-Mayfield pairing was out there for both PPGs. Dobson in general has been awful.
Tyler Johnson vs. Wahlstrom/Gauthier/Fasching. Hmmm.
Engvall penalties were utter BS much like our PP was after the make-up calls were handed out.
No thought about getting Lee a few more minutes in lieu of shopping at Walmart?
Not sure what the obsession is with playing Zeke on the wing but doesn't really work.
JGP really go 8 for 10 on the draw?
Oh and - they played like a bunch of pansies out there. That's it.
Tyler Johnson vs. Wahlstrom/Gauthier/Fasching. Hmmm.
Engvall penalties were utter BS much like our PP was after the make-up calls were handed out.
No thought about getting Lee a few more minutes in lieu of shopping at Walmart?
Not sure what the obsession is with playing Zeke on the wing but doesn't really work.
JGP really go 8 for 10 on the draw?
Oh and - they played like a bunch of pansies out there. That's it.
well...after a decent nights sleep...i am still pissed off. Not quite as much, but.....
This is my team and i will watch. However, as it is trending, more than likely wake up in the morning after a game not quite as pissed off as i was when i went to bed....more times than i care to.
This is my team and i will watch. However, as it is trending, more than likely wake up in the morning after a game not quite as pissed off as i was when i went to bed....more times than i care to.
Mr Misunderstood
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I hope you got the Disney bundle, with your 7 month old growing up...Disney+ is worth the investment.
(unless you are going zero screen time, and for that I praise your parenting skills)
There is always built in excuse ready to go....
If the building is empty cause they become Bottom Feeders, maybe then Ownership decides to go into a new direction.
The truth is our guys are aging middle of the road players that are all Thumbs, led by a guy who tries to do too much and causing blunders worse than even before he touches the puck 51% of the time.
Nothing New Under The Sun....
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Again, the same questions you asked when Snow was here and look where that got us. Oh 2 Eastern Conference Finals some might say? That's not my Stanley Cup. I was 14 years old when the Islanders won their last of 4 Stanley Cups and just making it to the Conference Finals is NO success in my book. Not when you have mortgaged the future by selling off most of our first round picks. Not when you have pounded into a team 5 years of "play not to lose" and a back pedaling mindset that apparently will take a lot more time to get rid of. Not when you replaced skaters like Leddy, Toews, Eberle, and Beauvillier with "gritty" players like Pageau, Wahlstom and Fasching.
These 4 players before mentioned would have thrived under Roy's system but instead this team is plagued with too many grinders that arguably would have done better under Trotz's system. But I question, why the HECK did they get rid of Eberle who clearly showed he had good chemistry with Barzal, could match his foot speed, and could convert his passes to goals on the rush. Unfortunately, I've not seen any evidence that Horvat can do this as consistently as Eberle was able to do as Horvat's primary scoring is almost exclusively at the bumper stop position. Why get rid of Leddy (one of Lou's worse offenses) who would thrive in any system if you needed a player good at leading transitions the other way?
The reason is Lou, unlike Snow hasn't shown a clear roadmap of where he wants to take this team. First it's defense first under Trotz. When that ultimately failed he allowed his protege Lambert to attempt to come up with some hybrid system and when that failed he totally changed his mind and brought in an offense minded coach in Roy (thank god) but did not properly reequip the team to handle such a change in systems. Lou is all over the place. And when he finally decided to reequip this team with speed he brings in players like Gauthier and Engvall two players who are useful as earmuffs in August and worse overpays them.
But again Peripheral, it was people like you who argued ad nauseum that a change in our GM would solve all the teams problems. I heard about how great the Jack Adam's Stanley Cup winning coach/GM would bring this team to the promised land when all I've seen thus far is the more Lou tinkered with Snow's line-up the worse it became. The team had its most success when it was primarily still Snow's line-up. Even with Barry Trotz at the helm the team progressively got worse to the point that he fired him and then made the boneheaded decison to replace him with his apprentice. Anyone who believes Lou was a better GM than Snow. Fine. But quit your complaining. You made your bed now sleep in it!
The solution to the problem is to not necessarily get rid of Lou because that solves nothing but to get him the HECK out of the way and give Roy full control over developing the culture of the team (including getting rid of those stupid grooming requirements), deciding who gets called up and who doesn't, and have control over who the team drafts and trades for. I know this was the arrangement created problems in Colorado for him but this is the way it must be if this team is going to get fully behind Roy. Right now as the media has been hinting and based upon what Roy states to the media its clear that when it comes to roster assignments it is still Lou calling the shots and it might be creating an unintended rift. If Lou does not get out of the way then fire him.
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