GDT: GDT #32 New York Islanders @ Chicago Blackhawks | December 15th | 3:00 PM | F/5-3 L

[Top Corner]

of course the empty net goal against

Not even sure why they pull the goaltender, I’d love to see a stat on goals for vs no goals vs goals against. I’m sure we are probably 2% goals for, probably 20% no goals against or for and 78% goals against. So 2 out of 100 games we extend to OT. I think we stand a better chance not pulling and probably get closer to 8 out of 100 into OT playing 5 on 5. This team is just toooo slow. They really need to rethink this roster quickly before even your Barzals and Horvats have Wally type value

 

[periferal]

Reinforcements are on the way

Thank god Lou changed the name. You wouldn't want to soil the "Sound Tigers" history.

 

[periferal]

Not even sure he’ll return a second at this point

Well since Nelson is getting resigned we'll never know.

Eff me...

You knew it. You knew it the second Cholowski rifled that pass down the boards so gosh darn hard it couldn't be anything but an icing.

I just sat there thinking, "Why the f$%& would you chance an icing after your line had just had that busy a shift?"

And then it happens. OF course it happens.

SIDENOTE:
Why was Cholowski kept out there for the final 52 seconds for the 6-on-5?

What's Roy's logic there?

He not only was the cause of that crappy icing and then right in that scrum in front of the net for the GW, but he had also been on the ice a while on that PP as well.

I don't get it.

We're basically at the point where this team needs it's front office, coaching, and scouting departments all cleansed.

 

[12Dog]

Eff me...

You knew it. You knew it the second Cholowski rifled that pass down the boards so gosh darn hard it couldn't be anything but an icing.

I just sat there thinking, "Why the f$%& would you chance an icing after your line had just had that busy a shift?"

And then it happens. OF course it happens.

SIDENOTE:
Why was Cholowski kept out there for the final 52 seconds for the 6-on-5?

What's Roy's logic there?

He not only was the cause of that crappy icing and then right in that scrum in front of the net for the GW, but he had also been on the ice a while on that PP as well.

I don't get it.

Mayfield?
Same result?

 

[Top Corner]

Unpopular opinion but I’m starting to think Roy is not a good coach. Doesn’t seem to be able to coach these guys up.

He didn’t do himself any favours with the locker room by publicly calling out Engvall and recently telling us how he would have broken a stick if he was the goalie. Seems to be bringing it back to himself. I think he’s the right coach but wrong roster, I still believe there is something bad behind the scenes with Lou and him. I’m not sure what the exact quote was a few weeks back but something to the effect “I can only coach the players I have “ I read that to me this roster is not as good as my GM thinks

 

[Torrey Redux]

It's beyond clear the entire organization needs a change. The big club can't get it done, Bridgeport is completely inept they are 5-17-2, winless in 9 straight at home for those not paying attention there.

I thank Lou for what he did to bring this team back to relevance but they're becoming irrelevant again. Make the change.

No offense intended, but it wasn't relevance or respectability, it was a Warhol-esque 15 minutes.

 

[Torrey Redux]

Speaking of relevance, we can't even suck bad enough to be a story, It looks like those goddamn Rags are going to steal all of suckedness headlines again tomorrow.

 

[xECK29x]

Wake up Lou. Do something or get out of the way. This is pathetic.

I don’t want Lou doing anything

 

[seafoam]

Eff me...

You knew it. You knew it the second Cholowski rifled that pass down the boards so gosh darn hard it couldn't be anything but an icing.

I just sat there thinking, "Why the f$%& would you chance an icing after your line had just had that busy a shift?"

And then it happens. OF course it happens.

SIDENOTE:
Why was Cholowski kept out there for the final 52 seconds for the 6-on-5?

What's Roy's logic there?

He not only was the cause of that crappy icing and then right in that scrum in front of the net for the GW, but he had also been on the ice a while on that PP as well.

I don't get it.

I have held out hope for a very long period of time, and I continue to be let down by Patrick Roy’s coaching decisions. They just don’t seem any different than Capuano or Lambert.

There’s no creativity and zero identity.

 

[Torrey Redux]

I don’t want Lou doing anything.......

......other than leaving.

 

[Tahoeblue]

I mean it is not like the Blackhawks played last night, had to travel and had to get ready for an afternoon game or anything. Missed the whole game as it wasn't streamed on ESPN plus.

Brutal!

 

[Torrey Redux]

He didn’t do himself any favours with the locker room by publicly calling out Engvall and recently telling us how he would have broken a stick if he was the goalie. Seems to be bringing it back to himself. I think he’s the right coach but wrong roster, I still believe there is something bad behind the scenes with Lou and him. I’m not sure what the exact quote was a few weeks back but something to the effect “I can only coach the players I have “ I read that to me this roster is not as good as my GM thinks

I don't know the first thing about Roy's financial situation, though I imagine it is probably quite good or at least comfortable, so he must realize that in calling out Lou like he has, he has submarined pretty much any chance being hired by any other NHL level GM again. And while I'm sure he would love to succeed again at the NHL level, his actions strike me as someone who would really rather be back in the Q, coaching kids in a situation where he has total control.

 

[MJF]

I don’t want Lou doing anything

Agreed. Let the team bottom out.

 

[crashthenet]

You knew it. You knew it the second Cholowski rifled that pass down the boards so gosh darn hard it couldn't be anything but an icing.

I just sat there thinking, "Why the f$%& would you chance an icing after your line had just had that busy a shift?"

And then it happens. OF course it happens.

SIDENOTE:
Why was Cholowski kept out there for the final 52 seconds for the 6-on-5?

What's Roy's logic there?

He not only was the cause of that crappy icing and then right in that scrum in front of the net for the GW, but he had also been on the ice a while on that PP as well.

I don't get it.

The same logic that exposed George late in games or had him paired with Dobson. Speaking of Dobson, nice job on the Hall goal. What a moron.

I didn't hear a lot of whistling from the bench today.

JGP wins a lot of faceoffs and loses plenty of critical ones.

Congrats to Ryan Pulock on his first goal of the season.

4 goals on 22 shots. Not a great stat line. Perhaps he could have had the last one.

They needed to score a goal, not play defense. He’s their best offensive LHD atm

They needed a point. This season more so than others is has so many mediocre teams hanging around. Get the point and ride your goalie in OT.

 

[DerekKingSnipes]

I don't know the first thing about Roy's financial situation, though I imagine it is probably quite good or at least comfortable, so he must realize that in calling out Lou like he has, he has submarined pretty much any chance being hired by any other NHL level GM again. And while I'm sure he would love to succeed again at the NHL level, his actions strike me as someone who would really rather be back in the Q, coaching kids in a situation where he has total control.

He stopped coaching in Q, he was pursuing NHL jobs without offers he liked. I think like it’s been speculated he wants to have input on roster and perhaps even GM and not coach. I’m not arguing he deserves this GM job, I do think he might get it though. They need to change this roster, change the leadership group. I would not hesitate to trade anyone on this roster, some guys i wouldn’t look to deal but isles have to to be open to anything. It’s clearly done, the third period late game stuff happens to much to say it’s something they can fix.

 

[Torrey Redux]

He stopped coaching in Q, he was pursuing NHL jobs without offers he liked. I think like it’s been speculated he wants to have input on roster and perhaps even GM and not coach. I’m not arguing he deserves this GM job, I do think he might get it though. They need to change this roster, change the leadership group. I would not hesitate to trade anyone on this roster, some guys i wouldn’t look to deal but isles have to to be open to anything. It’s clearly done, the third period late game stuff happens to much to say it’s something they can fix.

I understand that, but my point is that his experience in coming back may have him longing for the kind of total control he left behind. As for his being a serious GM candidate, like you, I would have serious reservations about hiring him. I can't remember which pod I was listening to but I was unaware of the genuinely poor record overall of rookie or relatively inexperienced NHL GMs. Having said all of that, I would take him over Lou in a heartbeat. It is so frustrating to be stuck in what feels like an endless middleness.

 

[xECK29x]

Agreed. Let the team bottom out.

More like I want anyone else making these decisions

 

[DerekKingSnipes]

I understand that, but my point is that his experience in coming back may have him longing for the kind of total control he left behind. As for his being a serious GM candidate, like you, I would have serious reservations about hiring him. I can't remember which pod I was listening to but I was unaware of the genuinely poor record overall of rookie or relatively inexperienced NHL GMs. Having said all of that, I would take him over Lou in a heartbeat. It is so frustrating to be stuck in what feels like an endless middleness.

Isles probably won’t fire Lou, perhaps they make him give up job and give it to Roy and have Desrosiers coach. I think I’d give Roy a kick at can to see if he can retool roster.

 

[Torrey Redux]

Agreed. Let the team bottom out.

I think what he meant was that while he doesn't want Lou doing anything, that doesn't mean he doesn't want anything done, he just wants someone else doing it. At least I hope that's what he meant. As for bottoming out, there is enough talent and they are in enough games that that won't happen. in short, they'll stay right where they don't want to be, Bottoming out will have to be an intentional action of selling off players and they should start now. Well, not right now, right after the fire Lou I mean.

 

[Zeeker]

Isles probably won’t fire Lou, perhaps they make him give up job and give it to Roy and have Desrosiers coach. I think I’d give Roy a kick at can to see if he can retool roster.

But… why? If Roy was Lou’s choice, and we’re ditching Lou, what’s the logic behind promoting a random former goalie with no prior GMing experience?

We’ve done that once before you know…

 

[bromanagro]

Meh. I thought Pulock had a nice goal.

 

[BelovedIsles]

Can we please start the rebuild already, as in this week.

 

[impaaaaaact]

I understand that, but my point is that his experience in coming back may have him longing for the kind of total control he left behind. As for his being a serious GM candidate, like you, I would have serious reservations about hiring him. I can't remember which pod I was listening to but I was unaware of the genuinely poor record overall of rookie or relatively inexperienced NHL GMs. Having said all of that, I would take him over Lou in a heartbeat. It is so frustrating to be stuck in what feels like an endless middleness.

I think that the plan has probably been to get him in the organization, form a familiarity with the roster and then have him take over when Lou retires. Ownership will still have their big name guy and Roy will put his fingerprints on the team. I don’t think they’d let him do the Coach/GM thing - although he does have a history of success with it. The Q is not the NHL though obviously