GDT: GDT #2 New York Islanders @ Dallas Stars | October 12th | 8:00 PM | F/L 3-0

Zeeker

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Agree with Roy. We outplayed them at times, so we were not embarrassed. Errors...giveaways... are hurting us a lot.

I am no picking on Barzy, nor implying that Roy's quote was directed toward him, but I think he HAS to work on that part of his game. I feel like he has been getting better at what I might call, 'over-possession', and even saw him dump it in a few times. More northsouth and less eastwest. More shooting.

If he fixes that part of his game, he will be a perennial top-10.
Barzal is 27 years old and in his eighth full time season. We know the kind of player he is already.

If he has one “top 10” season I’d be very surprised, let alone be in the perennial top 10. Perennial top 50 is probably more realistic.
 

Nassau Revisited

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I mean you asked for teams who won Cups in the last 15 years after tear downs and I provided that. I could have also included Florida (#1 overall picks in two consecutive years). Obviously you have to get other parts of the rebuild right, nobody is claiming that a tank will magically solve all of your problems. Coaching matters. You have to make smart picks in later rounds or find way to build good depth in other ways (a big problem for Edmonton and Buffalo), and Florida made the leap because they made smart moves over the last few years. They also drafted the best two way center on the planet right now at #1. It’s a nice start.
So a handful of teams had successful rebuilds and a handful of teams did not. A team can be built into a cup contender without trying to lose for 3-5 seasons. Lou is not the right man for the job as he locks up average players for forever contracts. We can attract UFA talent but can not pay them because contracts like Pelech, Lee, and JGP to name a few

We have a new arena and a very small fan base. Do you think anyone wants to be non competitive for 3-5 years and have 7-9k in the building every night? To add we have only 7 pages on this GDT… just another example of a small fan base that will not tolerate a compete tear down
 
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periferal

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Not to be a jerk, but Buffalo, Utah, Detroit, Edmonton, and Toronto say hello.


You're not being a jerk at all...Just looking through the wrong end of the telescope. Remember that only 1 team can win a Cup per year, but hopefully you've learned from most of the last 30 years of Islander hockey that it doesn't matter how many picks you have if your owner/GM is terrible (and most of those teams you listed qualify that way).


With that said...Pittsburgh, Chicago, LA, Tampa, and Colorado send a postcard from Fiji.
 

Nassau Revisited

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You're not being a jerk at all...Just looking through the wrong end of the telescope. Remember that only 1 team can win a Cup per year, but hopefully you've learned from most of the last 30 years of Islander hockey that it doesn't matter how many picks you have if your owner/GM is terrible (and most of those teams you listed qualify that way).


With that said...Pittsburgh, Chicago, LA, Tampa, and Colorado send a postcard from Fiji.
Someone has to win every year and 31 teams do not. Tanking the right year AND winning the lotto might be even more important than owner/GM. Look at us, we got Tavares who is a great player but he does not change a franchise like Crosby,Mcdavid, Kane etc…

Tanking is not the answer and guarantees nothing. The time to make moves was the last 2 years to re tool on the fly. Horvat was a good move. Keeping Mayfield, Nelson, and Palms were all bad moves
 

Osakahaus

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Someone has to win every year and 31 teams do not. Tanking the right year AND winning the lotto might be even more important than owner/GM. Look at us, we got Tavares who is a great player but he does not change a franchise like Crosby,Mcdavid, Kane etc…

Tanking is not the answer and guarantees nothing. The time to make moves was the last 2 years to re tool on the fly. Horvat was a good move. Keeping Mayfield, Nelson, and Palms were all bad moves
They literally are on the end of the line for both Nelson and Palmieri. At some point the islanders DEFENSE needs to change and not the offense. I swear the defense being locked up for half a decade plus is worse than any forward or goalie contract since none of them can skate or provide good enough offense
 

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