GDT: GDT #13 New York Islanders vs Pittsburgh Penguins| November 5th | 7:30 PM | F/OTW 4-3

[impaaaaaact]

Ho hum, 2-1 so far…

8 goals for in those 3 games. They scored 10 goals for in the previous 7 games.

barely squeaked past two of the worst teams in the league and lost to a playoff team... not exactly indicative of much

 

[MJF]

They explained this a bit between periods. It was a delayed offside. If you watch the replay, 55's skates are on the ice when the puck is dumped in, but he gets off the ice before another Penguin fully enters the zone.

But one of his skates was still on the ice.

I guess he got the “in the neighborhood of the bench” ruling.

 

[Throttle]

barely squeaked past two of the worst teams in the league and lost to a playoff team... not exactly indicative of much

Yet, they lost to two non-playoff teams scoring one goal in the process (a goal when down by 2) and earning zero points with a full lineup.

 

[Glory Days]

But one of his skates was still on the ice.

I guess he got the “in the neighborhood of the bench” ruling.

They said his skate was off the ice.

 

[islesmb]

But one of his skates was still on the ice.

I guess he got the “in the neighborhood of the bench” ruling.

It was a delayed offside and they ruled his skate was off the ice before the next Penguin entered the zone to make it onside.

 

[doublechili]

George looked good and outplayed Cholo and Hutton

Did Cholowski get hurt by any chance? Because I see:

George TOI = 15:41;
Cholowski TOI = 8:00.

If he wasn't hurting, it doesn't bode well for him that a kid playing his first NHL game earned almost twice the minutes.

 

[impaaaaaact]

Yet, they lost to two non-playoff teams scoring one goal in the process (a goal when down by 2) and earning zero points with a full lineup.

Yet, they beat the Avs and the Devils before that, scoring 10 goals over those two games.See? Other people can cherry pick stats too.

How about this - the isles are shooting 10.1% over the last three games (around league average). They shot 6.4% before that. Maybe that has something to do with the extra goals? Do you think Mat Barzal responsible for the finishing of the entire team, even when he isn't on the ice?

Did Cholowski get hurt by any chance? Because I see:

George TOI = 15:41;
Cholowski TOI = 8:00.

If he wasn't hurting, it doesn't bode well for him that a kid playing his first NHL game earned almost twice the minutes.

No he was just bad. Trying not to overreact too much to one game, but Roy seems fine to see a guy for a game and send him back down, a la Gauthier/Bolduc. M

My guess is that when the left side is fully healthy, Cholowski stays up as the 7th defender... but if someone gets injured, George comes up to play. That way he can still get games in at BPT

 

[Big L]

They explained this a bit between periods. It was a delayed offside. If you watch the replay, 55's skates are on the ice when the puck is dumped in, but he gets off the ice before another Penguin fully enters the zone.

Ah. So he got off the ice to the bench, clearing the zone, before any other Pitt player entered the zone

 

[Glory Days]

Did Cholowski get hurt by any chance? Because I see:

George TOI = 15:41;
Cholowski TOI = 8:00.

If he wasn't hurting, it doesn't bode well for him that a kid playing his first NHL game earned almost twice the minutes.

No he just looked bad. For a supposed offensive defenseman he fumbles the puck and didn’t pass well.

 

[Throttle]

Yet, they beat the Avs and the Devils before that, scoring 10 goals over those two games.See? Other people can cherry pick stats too.

How about this - the isles are shooting 10.1% over the last three games (around league average). They shot 6.4% before that. Maybe that has something to do with the extra goals? Do you think Mat Barzal responsible for the finishing of the entire team, even when he isn't on the ice?


No he was just bad. Trying not to overreact too much to one game, but Roy seems fine to see a guy for a game and send him back down, a la Gauthier/Bolduc. M

My guess is that when the left side is fully healthy, Cholowski stays up as the 7th defender... but if someone gets injured, George comes up to play. That way he can still get games in at BPT

Except COL was one of the worst teams in the opening games, wanna check that SV% walking into that game?

And blowing a third period lead and winning OT is a hallmark of unleashed, so take credit for that all you want.

The team is actually shooting the puck on net bc the players are playing a simpler game w/o waiting for mr possession and zone entry to muck up the basic concept of hockey: go to the net, shoot at the net.

Just saying early signs here of when Barzal went down under Lambert… the team played better and started to win games vs wallowing in Barzaland.

 

[impaaaaaact]

Except COL was one of the worst teams in the opening games, wanna check that SV% walking into that game?

And blowing a third period lead and winning OT is a hallmark of unleashed, so take credit for that all you want.

The team is actually shooting the puck on net bc the players are playing a simpler game w/o waiting for mr possession and zone entry to muck up the basic concept of hockey: go to the net, shoot at the net.

Just saying early signs here of when Barzal went down under Lambert… the team played better and started to win games vs wallowing in Barzaland.

isles were third in the league in shots per game when Barzal went down... now they're fourth.

SOG are pretty much the same (although they're giving up way more chances now... that's a defense thing though). What actually has changed is the shooting %. Apply the shooting % from the last 3 games to the first 10 and they score a a little over an extra 10 goals, 1 a game...almost 50% more. That's enough to probably turn a 3-5-2 record into a 6-4 one.

Again, unless you're blaming Mat Barzal for the shooting percentage of the entire team for the entirety of 10 games we're really grasping at straws here.

 

[seafoam]

isles were third in the league in shots per game when Barzal went down... now they're fourth.

SOG are pretty much the same (although they're giving up way more chances now... that's a defense thing though). What actually has changed is the shooting %. Apply the shooting % from the last 3 games to the first 10 and they score a a little over an extra 10 goals, 1 a game...almost 50% more. That's enough to probably turn a 3-5-2 record into a 6-4 one.

Again, unless you're blaming Mat Barzal for the shooting percentage of the entire team for the entirety of 10 games we're really grasping at straws here.

I'm not blaming Barzal for the team shooting %, but to me the team is getting 'different' looks than those they were getting with Barzal. Defending against a team with Barzal in it's lineup becomes very predictable, he's going to pass the puck. This makes it somewhat a little easier for opposing teams to prevent their man from getting open in scoring areas.

You could probably legitimately leave him alone, let him skate to the net somewhat uncontested, and he'd probably wait until he draws multiple defenders to pass to a teammate, even if he had the puck on his stick in the slot. That's how broken his game is.