Gauging fan interest from last season to next season
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Voodoo Child
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Eh…
I’m not big on waking up at 7 (6 during daylight savings) to see games.
And a big change needs to happen. Don’t just shuffle the chairs like Dubas did, toss some deadweight overboard.
When I have time I’ll still catch the marquee games and I expect an easy playoff berth. I’m glad they won a round and I wouldn’t care if they lost to Florida if they managed to show a semblance of character during the loss.
6/10. Waning with each passing year but not as low as it was after the Montreal fiasco.
I’m not big on waking up at 7 (6 during daylight savings) to see games.
And a big change needs to happen. Don’t just shuffle the chairs like Dubas did, toss some deadweight overboard.
When I have time I’ll still catch the marquee games and I expect an easy playoff berth. I’m glad they won a round and I wouldn’t care if they lost to Florida if they managed to show a semblance of character during the loss.
6/10. Waning with each passing year but not as low as it was after the Montreal fiasco.
I'm going to watch every game and if I can't watch it for some reason then I will listen to it.
For me Bettman has ruined the game and I rarely watch. The owners are obviously stupid and deserve to lose fans such as they are now. I'm not sure why they like losing money and have such contempt for the fans. Hopefully with so many teams going bankrupt soon things will change. I find the game a bit boring and can't relate to the players anymore. They are overpaid and I think Marner needs to be dumped. Till then I'm out for watching reg season.
On the offseason/management side- kinda feel like hitting the rewind button to when I was a teenager and information/rumour was less available. Less immersion, less armchair gming, less tracking rumours, more being excited by breaking news.
On the watching side- have to admit that game management has taken some of the enjoyment out of things for me. Also hitting the rewind here. Cut the cord last year and only watch HNIC games on GEM.
On the watching side- have to admit that game management has taken some of the enjoyment out of things for me. Also hitting the rewind here. Cut the cord last year and only watch HNIC games on GEM.
therealkoho
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Is it the abysmal effort of the supposed team "leaders" or is the coach the weak link, I think it might be both, BUT and it's a big big one. Is the coach actually in charge?
IMHO he is not! After seeing last seasons "apology-gate" it became very clear that Sheldon isn't the guy that's really in charge. I would say that the guy in charge, is still in the dressing room, wrapped in his sense of entitlement and over blown ego.
It's a real shame that this was allowed to happen, in the end it will be the impediment to winning a Stanley Cup. Having a guy like that in the dressing room creates an unhealthy atmosphere as they say these days.
thewave
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I agree with you. Keefe very well be toothless. I imagine the player you are talking about is Marner but it could just as well be Matthews though I suspect it would be Marner.
I just want to throw this into the discussion. Does anyone not think that Larry is selling his position in MLSE because he knows the team could lose a star and the expectations will be lowered? If the team is rebuilding or retooling, one has to imagine that the evaluation goes down. Cup wins are huge financial windfalls, especially in media and merch.
666
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Matthews and Marner are locks for the HOF if they don't get career ending injuries and Tavares is a maybe. 73 more goals for Tavares and he'll be a 500/1000 guy and only three of them haven't made it to the hall.
I don't know about throwing single games for gambling purposes but teams definitely tank and lose on purpose for top draft picks.
666
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I understand your frustration but it's hard to believe that M&M don't care. Do you think the Bruins players don't care? Their fans have to feel worse than ours with the team they had last season. Maybe it's just really hard to advance in the playoff especially against a red hot goaltender.
MCR74
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I agree. Why apologize to the players? Jesus,... Matthews and Marner would cry like babies and demand to be traded if John Brophy, Pat Burns or Quinn were behind the bench.
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MCR74
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Maybe not, but he didn't coddle his players. I'd love to see the three amigos' reaction to a coach who refuses to apologize.
Unfortunately I agree with everything you said. This team has no identity other than the Corpse 4 and they disgust me. Man are they ferocious at the negotiating table...wish they were like that on the ice. This team showed such promise. A good example of how money corrupts & big money corrupts totally. I will only watch if they make the playoffs. Actually I'm more keen on whether they have the balls to trade anyone. Shanhan & his Shanaplan BS disgust me. The players greed disgusts me....man how the game/players has changed since I started watching in the 60's....
MCR74
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For sure.
Either way, it shows that teams throw games for whatever reason. Not all of them are in it to win it.
Whether it be regular season or playoffs, teams are losing games on purpose for their own reasons.
Which kind of corrupts the whole sport, doesn't it. Not just hockey, but all sports.
What, teams just throwing games? Nahhhhhh....
666
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notdoneyet
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If yiu are doubting your loyalty as a fan then its time to cheer for a new team.
Do they get me frustrated YES
Do i not understand some of their thinking YES
Do i not agree with some of their moves YES
But no matter what i dont like, disagree with or not understand i will always love this team.
Do they get me frustrated YES
Do i not understand some of their thinking YES
Do i not agree with some of their moves YES
But no matter what i dont like, disagree with or not understand i will always love this team.
ShaneFalco
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That's great
I'll always be a fan, but the current Leaf team, is an entitled, soft, bunch of losers. Failure is rewarded. If they won't even play as a team and stand up for eachother, and show some heart and courage, I have no interest in spending my time watching them.
If there is no real change moving forward, and we retain the same coach and core players, I will be mildly interested. Meaning I'll probably watch 10-15 regular season games, and then the playoffs if we make it.
I use to be a die-hard for two decades. The game has changed a lot, and there is no sense of unity on this team that I can see. I hate watching mercenaries play. Our core players don't really have that fire. Most younger fans won't know what I'm talking about, so just go watch Tucker, Carson and Roberts highlights and you'll see what I'm saying.
I use to be a die-hard for two decades. The game has changed a lot, and there is no sense of unity on this team that I can see. I hate watching mercenaries play. Our core players don't really have that fire. Most younger fans won't know what I'm talking about, so just go watch Tucker, Carson and Roberts highlights and you'll see what I'm saying.
Im reluctant to say I wont spend my time watching cause I have a leafs addiction problem however I fully agree with your sentiment.
TMLBlueandWhite
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I've been a fan of this team my whole life.
I've followed them closely for years. Watch every game I can. I even care enough to take the time to write these stupid comments of mine every day.
I would have to be a complete loser to post so much about this team if I didn't care.
I might be a loser anyway. But that doesn't change the fact that regardless of the teams performance I'm STILL going to be watching. That's why Leafs fans are the "greatest fan base in the world".
Because we care about this team.
This isn't some shitty 5,000 seat arena hockey team we're talking about. This is the Toronto Maple Leafs. Our hometown team, playing our nation's greatest sport.
You can be damn sure my interest levels will remain on fanatic.
I've followed them closely for years. Watch every game I can. I even care enough to take the time to write these stupid comments of mine every day.
I would have to be a complete loser to post so much about this team if I didn't care.
I might be a loser anyway. But that doesn't change the fact that regardless of the teams performance I'm STILL going to be watching. That's why Leafs fans are the "greatest fan base in the world".
Because we care about this team.
This isn't some shitty 5,000 seat arena hockey team we're talking about. This is the Toronto Maple Leafs. Our hometown team, playing our nation's greatest sport.
You can be damn sure my interest levels will remain on fanatic.
Eternal Leaf
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I watch every game whether they're good or bad.
The ups and downs are what make it special. I'm not just here to skip to the good parts or when they're lifting a cup.
I don't agree with keeping Keefe or even keeping the core four, but I'm still watching every step of the way.
The ups and downs are what make it special. I'm not just here to skip to the good parts or when they're lifting a cup.
I don't agree with keeping Keefe or even keeping the core four, but I'm still watching every step of the way.
