Speculation: Gaudreau seeking $8M annually on new deal with Flames -- Pt. 2

[Ace Rimmer]

How is he technically not a (restricted) free agent. He doesn't have a contract. That's what that means.

He's effectively still a Group 1 player.

What does that mean?

He doesn't have 3 years of NHL experience and therefore doesn't qualify for Group 2 Free Agency (RFA) rights under the CBA. At least, that's my interpretation of it, among others.

 

[JFHockey]

Pretty crappy that you tell the agent of your star player that they will call in 2 days....then never call.

And yes, I know JG asked not to be distracted during the WC.

So says the agent, Craig Conroy recently said they've been talking everyday and Craig has never had a reputation for double-speak even though he's a motor-mouth. Probably just maneuvering by the agent.

Sorry Philly, you're going to have to wait 7-8 years before you can be hopeful that Johnny's gonna come knocking at the door.

 

[Snakepit]

So says the agent, Craig Conroy recently said they've been talking everyday and Craig has never had a reputation for double-speak even though he's a motor-mouth. Probably just maneuvering by the agent.

Sorry Philly, you're going to have to wait 7-8 years before you can be hopeful that Johnny's gonna come knocking at the door.

And that's Conroy's old agent too. He wouldn't be just making crap up about him

 

[Beninho*]

And that's Conroy's old agent too. He wouldn't be just making crap up about him

Agent proble trying to win the public opinion by saying there has been conversation in over a month. I highly doubt this especially when conroy has said there's been ongoing conversations

 

[Beninho*]

Agent proble trying to win the public opinion by saying there has been conversation in over a month. I highly doubt this especially when conroy has said there's been ongoing conversations

Hasn't been*

 

[MonyontheMoney]

So says the agent, Craig Conroy recently said they've been talking everyday and Craig has never had a reputation for double-speak even though he's a motor-mouth. Probably just maneuvering by the agent.

Sorry Philly, you're going to have to wait 7-8 years before you can be hopeful that Johnny's gonna come knocking at the door.

Mckenzie also reported a couple days ago that they haven't been talking.

 

[Snakepit]

Agent proble trying to win the public opinion by saying there has been conversation in over a month. I highly doubt this especially when conroy has said there's been ongoing conversations

With how tight lipped the Flames are about contract negotiations, this is so clearly a PR move by the agent imo. Trying to put pressure on the Flames.

 

[OvermanKingGainer]

Give the man his money. He has a better track record in his short career then the rat that just got his rediculous contract so pay him and let him continue to grow. It will hurt long term for both sides if they don't. Anything less then 7.5 for a guy that can put the puck In the.net the way he does should be compensated for it. He should just do a 1 year 8.5 deal every year if they won't go long term

Since when do players in their early twenties get paid more for less term? Teams give higher AAV to buy term.

McDavid isn't going to have this issue why should Johnny[/B].

McDavid is a centre. If you don't understand the value difference between a centre and a winger I'm not sure there's much more to say.

Pretty crappy that you tell the agent of your star player that they will call in 2 days....then never call.

If there's one thing I know, it's that Brad Treliving is probably the hardest working GM in the league and will always be by the phones. There's more to this than that statements suggests.

 

[McFlyingV]

I think Johnny either gets his 7-7.5M longterm or the Flames have to settle for a 1 or 2 year deal where they either pay up in a couple years of expose him to potential offer sheet/arbitration. Everyone keeps saying that all the power is in management's hands, but it really isn't. The flames are writing off their season completely if they let this carry into November. As good as Monahan is, that 1st line doesn't go without Johnny and the rest of the forward depth is not going to pick up that slack even if Bennett breaks out.

 

[umwoz]

Since when do players in their early twenties get paid more for less term? Teams give higher AAV to buy term.



McDavid is a centre. If you don't understand the value difference between a centre and a winger I'm not sure there's much more to say.



If there's one thing I know, it's that Brad Treliving is probably the hardest working GM in the league and will always be by the phones. There's more to this than that statements suggests.

If there's one thing you know, it's something that you couldn't possibly ACTUALLY know?

 

[UnrefinedCrude]

If there's one thing I know, ... probably ...

You seem very certain.

 

[Senor Catface]

You seem very certain.

Haha.

"He's like the best GM...maybe..."

 

[WhiskeyYerTheDevils]

I foresee a 2 year 13M deal coming, hopefully soon. It would suck if he wasn't playing

 

[Kilted Yaksmen]

I foresee a 2 year 13M deal coming, hopefully soon. It would suck if he wasn't playing

I can't see it. That would be - BY FAR - the largest bridge contract in league history. If Gaudreau's camp steers this into bridge territory, he's looking at 2 x 4.5m max.

 

[Prongo]

Kevin Paul Dupont
Kevin Paul Dupont‏ @GlobeKPD
Longtime hockey pal in NJ/Phil area convinced that Gaudreau will be out of CGY and become a Flyer or Bruin.

Interesting tweet from a Boston scribe

 

[1989]

I foresee a 2 year 13M deal coming, hopefully soon. It would suck if he wasn't playing

With a 6.5m AAV I'm fairly certain you don't understand the concept/proper utilization of a bridge contract.

 

[Seachd]

If there's one thing you know, it's something that you couldn't possibly ACTUALLY know?

Why's it so hard to believe that OvermanKingGainer from HFBoards knows exactly what all the GMs are up to 24 hours a day?

 

[JayKing]

He's 100% worth it but the problem is it screws their authority on their cap structure. If they give him anywhere close to what he wants then they won't have much structure in future negotiation with any of their players. Sadly you can't give an RFA (he's technically even lower than that) all that power.

 

[Walkingthroughforest]

Kevin Paul Dupont
Kevin Paul Dupont‏ @GlobeKPD
Longtime hockey pal in NJ/Phil area convinced that Gaudreau will be out of CGY and become a Flyer or Bruin.

Interesting tweet from a Boston scribe

It seems far too convenient that this comes out the same day the Gross assures Calgary he's not asking for a trade. Really childish move by Lewis Gross if this is his work.

And also there's no way that Gaudreau could even demand to go to Philly or Boston, he's an RFA with no rights. Calgary can ship him anywhere.

 

[WhiskeyYerTheDevils]

I can't see it. That would be - BY FAR - the largest bridge contract in league history. If Gaudreau's camp steers this into bridge territory, he's looking at 2 x 4.5m max.

And he'd be by far the best player to ever take a bridge deal.

 

[HarrySPlinkett]

And he'd be by far the best player to ever take a bridge deal.

Subban took one. It didn't work out the way Montreal had hoped.

 

[strictlyrandy]

And he'd be by far the best player to ever take a bridge deal.

Off topic: Is your name supposed to be WhiskeyYoureTheDevils?

On topic: Your previous post of a 2 year deal seems pretty realistic. Would a 3 yr deal leave him with 1 yr RFA left? I'm wondering if he would rather get right to UFA or not.

 

[DearDiary]

And he'd be by far the best player to ever take a bridge deal.

Gaudreau >>>> Subban AINEC!

 

[Killer Orcas]

Gaudreau >>>> Subban AINEC!

I seriously don't believe anybody would say it's not even close. Some would take Gaudreau some Subban I'd personally be in the Subban camp.

 

[Wadewilson]

If there's one thing I know, it's that Brad Treliving is probably the hardest working GM in the league and will always be by the phones. There's more to this than that statements suggests.

Have any proof of that?

It seems far too convenient that this comes out the same day the Gross assures Calgary he's not asking for a trade. Really childish move by Lewis Gross if this is his work.

And also there's no way that Gaudreau could even demand to go to Philly or Boston, he's an RFA with no rights. Calgary can ship him anywhere.

Actually he could tell all the other 27 teams that he wouldn't sign with them so they don't trade for them. Pretty friggin easy actually