Games you are currently playing - Part 7

I know you post stuff that gets reactions but you genuinely know nothing about trophies or being a completionist, please stop saying this. It's objectively wrong. Length does not equate to difficulty.
As someone who has Platinumed Assassins Creed Valhalla, yes I do know. This is cake compared to Lego Star Wars.

I suggest you play Lego Star Wars and see how insanely huge, time consuming, and challenging this trophy is to get. Until then, your opinion doesn't mean a thing to this discussion.

I find it amusing when people say they’re “working” towards something in a game, like it’s a grind and/job, not just entertainment.

One of the Trophies is Earn 10 Billion Studs. BILLION.
 
Bought Alan Wake Remastered because it was on sale and I'm a big Remedy fan because of Control. Got through the main story and man that game really falls off towards the end. I know it's dated at this point, but some of the gameplay decisions were perplexing, to say the least. Tried starting the first epilogue chapter and I'm not sure I can push myself through it.
Yeah it's dated. I did the same thing and just couldn't push through it. I'm just curious to see if they follow through on the final scenes of the AWE DLC as a setup to AW2.
 
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I find it amusing when people say they’re “working” towards something in a game, like it’s a grind and/job, not just entertainment.

You can "work on" plenty of things that have nothing to do with your occupation, you can work on your golf game, or your jump shot, or your garden in the back yard, or your memoirs, just because someone used the word "Work" it doesn't mean they have to be out plowing the fields or in a coal mine or factory
 
As someone who has Platinumed Assassins Creed Valhalla, yes I do know. This is cake compared to Lego Star Wars.

I suggest you play Lego Star Wars and see how insanely huge, time consuming, and challenging this trophy is to get. Until then, your opinion doesn't mean a thing to this discussion.



One of the Trophies is Earn 10 Billion Studs. BILLION.
For anyone who doesn't know, PSNProfiles is a site where you can track your... PSN profile. It shows you all your games and trophies and what you've earned, and various statistics relating to your profile. In addition to the trophy rarities you see in-console on PS4 and PS5, there's a site rarity based on the people whose profiles are on the site and whether or not they've completed various trophies.

PS5 Star Wars: LEGO Star Wars: The Skywalker Saga Trophies
PS4 Star Wars: LEGO Star Wars: The Skywalker Saga Trophies

The platinum rarity for the PS5 version of Lego Star Wars is 15.39%. The PS4 version is 12.03%. The trophy guide says it's around 100 hours to platinum.

Here is my profile: stpatty's PSN Profile

Here's a list of my 211 platinum trophies ordered by rarity: stpatty's Trophy Log • PSNProfiles.com

The first one at 12% or higher is on the third page. I'm sure you'll hit me with some gotcha about the definition of "modern gaming" but I've spent a lot longer on a lot harder than Lego Star Wars. Expand your horizons a bit.
 
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For anyone who doesn't know, PSNProfiles is a site where you can track your... PSN profile. It shows you all your games and trophies and what you've earned, and various statistics relating to your profile. In addition to the trophy rarities you see in-console on PS4 and PS5, there's a site rarity based on the people whose profiles are on the site and whether or not they've completed various trophies.

PS5 Star Wars: LEGO Star Wars: The Skywalker Saga Trophies
PS4 Star Wars: LEGO Star Wars: The Skywalker Saga Trophies

The platinum rarity for the PS5 version of Lego Star Wars is 15.39%. The PS4 version is 12.03%. The trophy guide says it's around 100 hours to platinum.

Here is my profile: stpatty's PSN Profile

Here's a list of my 211 platinum trophies ordered by rarity: stpatty's Trophy Log • PSNProfiles.com

The first one at 12% or higher is on the third page. I'm sure you'll hit me with some gotcha about the definition of "modern gaming" but I've spent a lot longer on a lot harder than Lego Star Wars. Expand your horizons a bit.
Have you played the game?

No.

‘Nuff said.
 
You can "work on" plenty of things that have nothing to do with your occupation, you can work on your golf game, or your jump shot, or your garden in the back yard, or your memoirs, just because someone used the word "Work" it doesn't mean they have to be out plowing the fields or in a coal mine or factory
I agree and my post was pretty superficial. It was more aimed at people who seem to slog through things to get a digital achievement. I prefer spending my free time doing things I enjoy, not spending hours doing tedious bullshit so a game gives me a virtual pat on the back. To each their own, though.
 
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I agree and my post was pretty superficial. It was more aimed at people who seem to slog through things to get a digital achievement. I prefer spending my free time doing things I enjoy, not spending hours doing tedious bullshit so a game gives me a virtual pat on the back. To each their own, though.
I tapped out of 100%ing games with the Riddler trophies in the Arkham games. I don't get how people find that satisfying. To each their own i suppose
 
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I tapped out of 100%ing games with the Riddler trophies in the Arkham games. I don't get how people find that satisfying. To each their own i suppose
Yeah, and particularly when it’s not even difficult, just time consuming. Like if you can easily 100% a game, you just need to spend 100 hours following online walkthroughs, then that’s not impressive nor satisfying IMO. If it’s based on skill and it’s difficult, then I can see why it might be satisfying as you actually accomplished something most people couldn’t.
 
I tapped out of 100%ing games with the Riddler trophies in the Arkham games. I don't get how people find that satisfying. To each their own i suppose
I used to push myself to plat games for whatever reason, but now I only plat the ones that I truly enjoy and don't want to end like Elden Ring or Ghost of Tsushima for example. Using trophies to extend the gameplay is the best way to go about it imo.
 
I agree and my post was pretty superficial. It was more aimed at people who seem to slog through things to get a digital achievement. I prefer spending my free time doing things I enjoy, not spending hours doing tedious bullshit so a game gives me a virtual pat on the back. To each their own, though.

I gotcha, I misinterpreted it more as a talking down to gaming in general or you can't "work on" a game, I am not a 100% er, I've maybe gotten 100% on a couple of games max, though I try to finish any game I start unless it s total trash. I'm not gonna spend hours clearing a entire map or searching for every collectible so I am in agreement with you there
 
It honestly isn't. I'm hearing what you're saying but I don't understand it. The "in games" qualifier is very confusing to me. Thinking that gameplay and story is a bad mixture and therefore not liking its presence in games, I can understand. Liking gameplay more than story or not liking story, period, I can understand. Thinking that videogame storytelling doesn't actually get good enough to be worth valuing compared to other mediums, I can understand. Even just not enjoying the logistics/hassle of holding a controller and pressing buttons to progress a story, to the point where it's a deal-breaker than ruins the experience of an otherwise great one, I can understand.

But none of those seem to be your position. The desired designation and role of the medium seems to be-- That, I don't understand.

Just accepting an explanation at face value without making sense of it is just not behavior I believe in. But it sounds like we're not making any headway. Oh well, let's just drop it, then.
You say that you can't understand why "I value gameplay over story," but, a few sentences later, say that you can understand "liking gameplay more than story." The statements are essentially the same, so you do understand what I'm saying. You're just being argumentative for who knows what reason. Now that that's settled, we can drop it. :sarcasm:
 
You say that you can't understand why "I value gameplay over story," but, a few sentences later, say that you can understand "liking gameplay more than story." The statements are essentially the same, so you do understand what I'm saying. You're just being argumentative for who knows what reason. Now that that's settled, we can drop it. :sarcasm:
Huh? That's not what I said. I don't understand it specifically when "in games" needs to be added as a qualifier. I understand it without that, but you said that that wasn't your position. If it actually is, then disconnect resolved.

Since you brought up the analogy, it'd be like if I said "I dislike open world games, but only on console, not on PC." Obviously the first part makes sense and is just a value judgement that everyone's free to disagree with, but that bolded qualifier would be confusing and require further explanation, in my view, and an answer like "that's just not what I play console games for, I don't value them in that context, open world games suit PCs more" wouldn't clear up that confusion. That just begs even more questions.

Does framing it that way clarify my confusion?

I'm sorry if it seems like I'm being argumentative for shits and giggles, but I am being sincere here. It's not like it secretly does fully track in my head and I'm just trying argue to be difficult or something.
 
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Huh? That's not what I said. I don't understand it specifically when "in games" needs to be added as a qualifier. I understand it without that, but you said that that wasn't your position. If it actually is, then disconnect resolved.

Since you brought up the analogy, it'd be like if I said "I dislike open world games, but only on console, not on PC." Obviously the first part makes sense and is just a value judgement that everyone's free to disagree with, but that bolded qualifier would be confusing and require further explanation, in my view, and an answer like "that's just not what I play console games for, I don't value them in that context, open world games suit PCs more" wouldn't clear up that confusion. That just begs even more questions.

Does framing it that way clarify my confusion?

I'm sorry if it seems like I'm being argumentative for shits and giggles, but I am being sincere here. It's not like it secretly does fully track in my head and I'm just trying argue to be difficult or something.
"In games" wasn't necessary or a qualifier. It was just redundant, since it should be obvious that we mean in games when talking about gameplay. It shouldn't have been confusing. You overanalyzed it and, honestly, have been doing it since the beginning of this conversation and arguing with your own ideas of what I mean. It's apparently kept you from realizing that you do understand my perspective, after all. I know that you're being sincere and not trying to be difficult, though. I'm very guilty of being argumentative, myself.
 
"In games" wasn't necessary or a qualifier. It was just redundant, since it should be obvious that we mean in games when talking about gameplay. It shouldn't have been confusing. You overanalyzed it and, honestly, have been doing it since the beginning of this conversation and arguing with your own ideas of what I mean. It's apparently kept you from realizing that you do understand my perspective, after all. I know that you're being sincere and not trying to be difficult, though. I'm very guilty of being argumentative, myself.
Okay, so the way that I understand it now based on what you're saying (if "in games" isn't a necessary qualifier) is that you value gameplay (in any medium) more than you value story (in any medium), PERIOD, and thus in a medium (the ONLY medium) where both are possible and they're pitted against each other, gameplay always wins and should be heavily prioritized. In other words, I assume that means that you enjoy videogames more than other mediums in general, because they're capable of the thing that you value more.

That... would make perfect sense to me. I'd find that a respectable position. Hopefully that actually is what you mean. It's this idea that "My appreciation for the same thing can fluctuate wildly depending on which medium I'm using at the moment, strictly because of some associated expectation I have with the medium" thing that doesn't track for me, you know?

That said... that seems like a different sentiment than "If I wanted story, I'd read a book!" That's more just "Why would I want a story when I have gameplay-- I'd only want story if gameplay isn't on the table, like with a book." The latter makes sense and does not come across as narrowminded to me.
 
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Okay, so the way that I understand it now based on what you're saying (if "in games" isn't a necessary qualifier) is that you value gameplay (in any medium) more than you value story (in any medium), PERIOD, and thus in a medium where both are possible and they're pitted against each other, gameplay always wins. In other words, I assume that means that you enjoy videogames more than other mediums in general, because they're capable of the thing you value more.

That... would make perfect sense to me. Not sure if that's accurate (I'm a bit concerned that it still isn't). It's the idea that "My appreciation fluctuates depending on which medium I'm using at the moment, strictly because of some associated expectation I have with it" thing that doesn't track for me, you know?

That said... that seems like a different sentiment than "If I wanted story, I'd read a book!" That's more just "Why would I want a story when I have gameplay-- I'd only want story if gameplay isn't possible."
I don't necessarily value gameplay above story in general. In movies, a strong story is important to me while the lack of gameplay isn't. In games, it's the other way around. I tend to enjoy movies when they tell a good story and games when I get to make the story. I wouldn't say that I have a preference, since I probably spend as much time watching movies as gaming, but I do prefer to get the experience that I enjoy out of each. That's the same basic sentiment that "If I wanted a great story, I'd read a book" expresses, so you might be able to understand it even if you don't approve of the way that it's put.
 
I don't necessarily value gameplay above story in general. In movies, a strong story is important to me while the lack of gameplay isn't. In games, it's the other way around. I tend to enjoy movies when they tell a good story and games when I get to make the story. I wouldn't say that I have a preference, since I probably spend as much time watching movies as gaming, but I do prefer to get the experience that I enjoy out of each. That's the same basic sentiment that "If I wanted a great story, I'd read a book" expresses, so you might be able to understand it even if you don't approve of the way that it's put.
........ but then the "in games" qualifier is necessary, then! What was that last exchange all about?

Okay. I'm just going to conclude that I understand what you're trying to say but I can't wrap my head around the logistics of how that actually works or why something like that would matter to you (the whole "I like this box for this and that box for that" aspect of it). It's okay. We don't always have to understand everything about everyone. I'm sure I have some weird takes that baffle you too, even after hearing my explanations (beyond just "I understand but disagree"). I can concede that while my mind jumps to rigid/narrowminded (or something to that effect) when I hear something like that (nothing personal), it could also be some other idea that actually is perfectly reasonable but mostly eludes me. By no means am I actually accusing anyone with any degree of confidence.

You've similarly considered similar assumptions in an attempt to explain why I'm being argumentative or whatever, and I think that's similarly fair to do, regardless of whether or not either thoughts we have are actually accurate.
 
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........ but then the "in games" qualifier is necessary, then! What was that last exchange all about?
I don't think that it's necessary to specify that we're talking about games when discussing gameplay in a thread titled "Games you are currently playing." A little common sense should do.
 
I don't think that it's necessary to specify that we're talking about games when discussing gameplay in a thread titled "Games you are currently playing." A little common sense should do.
It's pretty important when the specific thing we were talking about was the phrase "If I wanted story, I'd read a book", and when that qualifier is the entire crux of what I took exception to regarding it, though. Why would you go out of your way to take it out and misframe what I said as contradicting itself? I included it specifically to differentiate between the two (story in games vs. story in books). It's equally relevant to the conversation to talk about preferring gameplay over story (in games) as preferring gameplay over story overall (including in books).
 
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For anyone who doesn't know, PSNProfiles is a site where you can track your... PSN profile. It shows you all your games and trophies and what you've earned, and various statistics relating to your profile. In addition to the trophy rarities you see in-console on PS4 and PS5, there's a site rarity based on the people whose profiles are on the site and whether or not they've completed various trophies.

PS5 Star Wars: LEGO Star Wars: The Skywalker Saga Trophies
PS4 Star Wars: LEGO Star Wars: The Skywalker Saga Trophies

The platinum rarity for the PS5 version of Lego Star Wars is 15.39%. The PS4 version is 12.03%. The trophy guide says it's around 100 hours to platinum.

Here is my profile: stpatty's PSN Profile

Here's a list of my 211 platinum trophies ordered by rarity: stpatty's Trophy Log • PSNProfiles.com

The first one at 12% or higher is on the third page. I'm sure you'll hit me with some gotcha about the definition of "modern gaming" but I've spent a lot longer on a lot harder than Lego Star Wars. Expand your horizons a bit.
Also, those stats are incorrect. Only 2.0% of all players have the platinum in the game.



I tapped out of 100%ing games with the Riddler trophies in the Arkham games. I don't get how people find that satisfying. To each their own i suppose
That alone killed my desire to play the games.
 
After finishing up another long game I felt I needed something shorter and I noticed Axiom Verge 2 was free and while I never got around to the first one, I know it's a Metroidvania series and that always piques my interest. Really enjoying it so far.
 

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