Post-Game Talk: Game VI Pens loss to Stars: Our Stars can’t dance

[Zirakzigil]

Fantastic 1st period and died from there. PP and our bottom 6 have to start producing. Rust you still suck Hope Ludy is okay, that hit looked bad.

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[66-30-33]

Can't play 20 minutes or less and expect to win. Karlsson isnt saving our PP, it's garbage...can't even score.

 

[Ragamuffin Gunner]

This team f***ing sucks.

Sully should be fired.

f***ing losers.

 

[KareemTrustfund]

Graves is just not good enough. Not even close.

 

[Rudy Russo]

God help us. Four more years of Graves.

 

[Empoleon8771]

I'm seeing less and less of a reason to believe that this team is anything but exactly how they've performed this year.

The bottom-6 is doing what it is designed to do, they're getting exactly what they want out of that bottom-6 (low event defensive hockey). The issue is that the top-6 can't consistently score enough where a low event defensive bottom-6 works. I think the vision of this team, both from the system Sullivan is running along with the roster construction that Dubas selected, is just fundamentally not correct on the evaluation of the core. This team doesn't have the ability to run the system Sullivan wants to run, nor is the core good enough anymore to be able to win games with a completely unproductive bottom-6. The fundamental vision of this team is based on the flawed assumption that the core is good enough for the vision to work, it's just not anymore.

At the same time, you're spending so much money on the top-6 that you don't reasonably even have a way to help the bottom-6 production. I just don't know what you can even do with this team. Firing Sullivan is really the only thing I can see that even might make a difference, but I still don't think that would move the needle substantially.

If they'd fire Sullivan the results didn't improve, I'd be fully ready to just write off this team as being past their prime and done.

 

[Rudy Russo]

Fantastic 1st period and died from there. PP and our bottom 6 have to start producing. Rust you still suck Hope Ludy is okay, that hit looked bad.

Our fourth line needs to be blown up.

 

[canadianguy77]

I actually had hope that maybe we were seeing a legit team at the end of 20 minutes. I was dead wrong. We’ll be 10 games under .500 by the end of November.

 

[Coastal Kev]

 

[SomeOldDude]

I cannot believe Karlsson accepted this trade. Surely he knew he could not win anything in Pittsburgh these days. He's like 4 years too late for that lol.

 

[Ryder71]

Seasons over, I know a lot of you think that's crazy, but I'm telling you now we're missin the playoffs. Great 1st period but couldn't convert on our many quality chances.

 

[Pancakes]

 

[Flying Dego]

This team as a whole plays like unstructured trash. What do organizations do when an entire group plays like garbage?

Replace coaching.

But we won't, so let's just continue ignoring a massive issue until Sid retires in a couple years.

 

[Jobeycool]

Not much to say other than major borefest..

 

[DesertedPenguin]

I think the team's biggest issue is we need even more Dr. Strangelove references as thread titles.

 

[Ryder71]

I cannot believe Karlsson accepted this trade. Surely he knew he could not win anything in Pittsburgh these days. He's like 4 years too late for that lol.

More like SIX.

 

[Tacitus Kilgore]

God help us. Four more years of Graves.

I'm not willing to give up on him until we see him with a better system and a better coach

 

[farscape1]

God help us. Four more years of Graves.

He only has a 12 team no trade list.

 

[Flying Dego]

Our fourth line needs to be blown up.

Waivers. Every single one.

 

[66-30-33]

I thought Ned was good for the first 2 period but not so good in the 3rd period. Rough period but played an ok game.

 

[BobCole]

Positives:
Love what I'm seeing from Geno. His legs are moving. He's seeing the ice well. Using his linemates well. Backchecking. Forechecking. He's a beast
Eller, Acciari, O'Connor look good. Creating lots of chances out there. We need a 3rd line that can do this.
I thought Shea had a good game. Ludvig was looking good, too, until the hit
This was a weak game form Karlsson but I still love his vision and things he's able to do out there.
Other than that cluster-eff of a 3rd goal, Ned made some good stops today.
I thought Guentzel was very noticeable tonight.

Negatives:
PP. They generated a ton of good chances tonight but the result was still a goose egg.
Crosby. He looked good at times, but not a 60-minute effort from the captain.
Team defense. Just bad. Turnovers everywhere.

2-4 to start the season is horrific, and we have Colorado in town on Thursday. How bad does it need to get for the GM to axe the coach?

 

[Ginormousthumbs]

I think they should stay put until December and then break it all down.

 

[Ugene Magic]

 

[Josey Wales]

This team as a whole plays like unstructured trash. What do organizations do when an entire group plays like garbage?

Replace coaching.

But we won't, so let's just continue ignoring a massive issue until Sid retires in a couple years.

& Sid isn't a Massive Issue???

 

[Flying Dego]

I'm not willing to give up on him until we see him with a better system and a better coach

Facts. But we are locked into this system for 4 more years lol.