TV: Game of Thrones | Season 6 | Part VIII (NO BOOK DISCUSSION - NO SPOILERS!) ‎

[Bubba Thudd]

I wonder if Yara intends to offer Theon to Dany as a husband in exchange for their ships and support?

Would be the perfect husband for Dany since she has zero intention of having a consummated marriage.

She could offer up Theon as an Unsullied.

 

[tacogeoff]

I wonder if Yara intends to offer Theon to Dany as a husband in exchange for their ships and support?

Would be the perfect husband for Dany since she has zero intention of having a consummated marriage.

I don't think he would be suitable? he is the last heir of his dead father but the majority of the Iron born voted Euron as the new King of their lands. Theon could not offer much in the way of anything except lineage to a dead king. maybe they form a deal around providing their ships and in return Dany takes back their land and crushes Euron?

 

[Blender]

Still as accurate as when it was first made.

 

[Amazing Kreiderman]

Still as accurate as when it was first made.

People laughing at stuff that isn't funny... Yep, typical Seinfeld

 

[The Lunatic Fridge]

Hoping for anything but fight club. Literally anything.

 

[sully1410]

Would be nice but I don't see it. The way that letter was written is exactly how Ramsay would say it lol.

Why so Jon can die AGAIN?

I actually think that it's more likely that Sanaa turns on Littlefinger and has him killed.

 

[darko]

Why so Jon can die AGAIN?

I actually think that it's more likely that Sanaa turns on Littlefinger and has him killed.

Hopefully Sansa is stupid enough to turn on LF right at the start. That way Ramsay swoops in and kicks ass.

 

[Birko19]

Something that really bothers me about the show is how all these legendary houses supposedly existed for thousands of years, yet when you look at the current situation a chunk of them are on the brink of extinction. I don't get it, are there no actual cousins to take over?

The Starks are all over the place with no suitable heir to take over, the leaders of house Martell are gone, the Baratheons are done unless you count Robert's ********, the last of the Arryns is a boy who was still sucking milk from his mother not too long ago, the Greyjoys are down to a dickless Theon and a lesbo Yara, not sure how their line is going to continue unless their uncle takes over, the Tyrells seem to be banking on their gay son to carry over yet with him being in jail the future is in jeopardy, house Tully looks done, and the last of the Targeryans is a female (Unless Jon is revealed as one). I suppose only the Lannisters seem to be somewhat in a better place, but even their situation is not that good.

I would imagine a future of a house is good if there was a lot of children, something like house Frey for example.

 

[sully1410]

Hopefully Sansa is stupid enough to turn on LF right at the start. That way Ramsay swoops in and kicks ass.

Ramsay is the stupidest and dumbest character ever. Why would anyone want to see that guy triumph over anything.

 

[hamzarocks]

Something that really bothers me about the show is how all these legendary houses supposedly existed for thousands of years, yet when you look at the current situation a chunk of them are on the brink of extinction. I don't get it, are there no actual cousins to take over?

The Starks are all over the place with no suitable heir to take over, the leaders of house Martell are gone, the Baratheons are done unless you count Robert's ********, the last of the Arryns is a boy who was still sucking milk from his mother not too long ago, the Greyjoys are down to a dickless Theon and a lesbo Yara, not sure how their line is going to continue unless their uncle takes over, the Tyrells seem to be banking on their gay son to carry over yet with him being in jail the future is in jeopardy, house Tully looks done, and the last of the Targeryans is a female (Unless Jon is revealed as one). I suppose only the Lannisters seem to be somewhat in a better place, but even their situation is not that good.

I would imagine a future of a house is good if there was a lot of children, something like house Frey for example.

A couple of potential heirs from the books haven't been included on the show. Won't spoil anything but house martell, and tyrell are larger than the show portrays them as. The starks are kind of screwed as benjen took the black and couldn't father kids, ned's sis died early, and so did his old brother. It came down to ned to have children and he ended up having 5 plus jon. Same thing for baratheons, as renly wasn't having children, and stannis had only one daughter on multiple attempts.

 

[JabbaJabba]

Something that really bothers me about the show is how all these legendary houses supposedly existed for thousands of years, yet when you look at the current situation a chunk of them are on the brink of extinction. I don't get it, are there no actual cousins to take over?

The Starks are all over the place with no suitable heir to take over, the leaders of house Martell are gone, the Baratheons are done unless you count Robert's ********, the last of the Arryns is a boy who was still sucking milk from his mother not too long ago, the Greyjoys are down to a dickless Theon and a lesbo Yara, not sure how their line is going to continue unless their uncle takes over, the Tyrells seem to be banking on their gay son to carry over yet with him being in jail the future is in jeopardy, house Tully looks done, and the last of the Targeryans is a female (Unless Jon is revealed as one). I suppose only the Lannisters seem to be somewhat in a better place, but even their situation is not that good.

I would imagine a future of a house is good if there was a lot of children, something like house Frey for example.

Well there are distant cousins and even closer relatives but the show can introduce so many of them. Also I don't think there's a good way to do it in the show like you can't cast so many people and just mentioning some cousin who has no other purpose than being namedropped doesn't sound good either.

 

[Birko19]

Well there are distant cousins and even closer relatives but the show can introduce so many of them. Also I don't think there's a good way to do it in the show like you can't cast so many people and just mentioning some cousin who has no other purpose than being namedropped doesn't sound good either.

I get it, but after the Red Wedding for example it seems like house Stark and house Tully were done, if they had distant cousins shouldn't the leadership passes on to them? I can't imagine an entire legendary house was destroyed like that from one single event.

 

[Blender]

I get it, but after the Red Wedding for example it seems like house Stark and house Tully were done, if they had distant cousins shouldn't the leadership passes on to them? I can't imagine an entire legendary house was destroyed like that from one single event.

Robert's Rebellion and the event preceding it left a lot of the great houses in poor shape. Some like the Starks for example were well on their way to recovering, as if they had 10-15 more years the family could have been quite large, and others like the Arryns never recovered. The War of the Five Kings took a bunch of devastated houses and crushed them even more.

 

[dogbazinho]

Hoping for anything but fight club. Literally anything.

Worst case scenario is that Anya was Anya, got stabbed and we just have to accept that she was acting strange for really no good reason.

There have been a lot of "theories" that have been more interesting that what the show has given us. It's part of the reason I think many book readers are frustrated with the show.

 

[Blender]

Worst case scenario is that Anya was Anya, got stabbed and we just have to accept that she was acting strange for really no good reason.

There have been a lot of "theories" that have been more interesting that what the show has given us. It's part of the reason I think many book readers are frustrated with the show.

I agree that this would be the worst. She was acting too different, and stupid, for it just to have been her.

 

[RandV]

I agree that this would be the worst. She was acting too different, and stupid, for it just to have been her.

Like I said earlier my initial thoughts on the scene before I saw all the crazy fake Arya stuff: Arya got stabbed, the theater troupe/actress she saved will find her and patch her up. Having failed to listen to orders and take the life she was signed, the Jacquen kills the Waif. With a death in place for Arya, she's free to go.

Much simpler, though there are some very good points about how strange she was acting.

 

[StrictlyCommercial]

The lack of needle, the new clothes, the mannerisms.... I just can't see it being Arya.

 

[Emperoreddy]

I don't think he would be suitable? he is the last heir of his dead father but the majority of the Iron born voted Euron as the new King of their lands. Theon could not offer much in the way of anything except lineage to a dead king. maybe they form a deal around providing their ships and in return Dany takes back their land and crushes Euron?

Well if Yara shows up with three dragons and Theon as the new king of the seven kingdoms they change their mind.

It would be totally political. Part of the pact to allow the iron islands to run mostly autonomously while Dany gets what she wants.

 

[Emperoreddy]

Like I said earlier my initial thoughts on the scene before I saw all the crazy fake Arya stuff: Arya got stabbed, the theater troupe/actress she saved will find her and patch her up. Having failed to listen to orders and take the life she was signed, the Jacquen kills the Waif. With a death in place for Arya, she's free to go.

Much simpler, though there are some very good points about how strange she was acting.

Never mind acting stupid.

Slashed across the gut and stabbed twice? Even in fantasy you aren't walking around after that.

 

[HanSolo]

Well this episode is called "No One" so we should be getting the answers tonight. Hopefully they're not too contrived.

 

[sully1410]

Well if Yara shows up with three dragons and Theon as the new king of the seven kingdoms they change their mind.

It would be totally political. Part of the pact to allow the iron islands to run mostly autonomously while Dany gets what she wants.

Marriage has to be consummated to be declared legit. Obviously, in Theon's case, it cant be.

Talking about stupid wounds that somehow people live there...how exactly is theon still walking and talking after having got his **** cut off? You bleed a lot from that particular area of the body, and even if you get immediate attention...a lot of times they can't save you. Not to mention those that they do save have to have surgery so they can take a whizz properly.

Maybe his dick didn't get cut off.

 

[Emperoreddy]

Marriage has to be consummated to be declared legit. Obviously, in Theon's case, it cant be.

Talking about stupid wounds that somehow people live there...how exactly is theon still walking and talking after having got his **** cut off? You bleed a lot from that particular area of the body, and even if you get immediate attention...a lot of times they can't save you. Not to mention those that they do save have to have surgery so they can take a whizz properly.

Maybe his dick didn't get cut off.

Dany has no intention to consummate any marriage. Dragons trump the law in this case.

 

[The Head Crusher]

Something that really bothers me about the show is how all these legendary houses supposedly existed for thousands of years, yet when you look at the current situation a chunk of them are on the brink of extinction. I don't get it, are there no actual cousins to take over?

The Starks are all over the place with no suitable heir to take over, the leaders of house Martell are gone, the Baratheons are done unless you count Robert's ********, the last of the Arryns is a boy who was still sucking milk from his mother not too long ago, the Greyjoys are down to a dickless Theon and a lesbo Yara, not sure how their line is going to continue unless their uncle takes over, the Tyrells seem to be banking on their gay son to carry over yet with him being in jail the future is in jeopardy, house Tully looks done, and the last of the Targeryans is a female (Unless Jon is revealed as one). I suppose only the Lannisters seem to be somewhat in a better place, but even their situation is not that good.

I would imagine a future of a house is good if there was a lot of children, something like house Frey for example.

Sure there will be junior branches of each house, many of them marrying into other houses or forming their own houses like the Starks and the Karstarks. As hamzarocks mentioned in his post the books add more people to both the Tyrells and the Martells, Ser Loras in the show is the heir to Highgarden, but is actually the 3rd son in line in the books. So it is likely there are people who can make claims on the titles of Lord of Winterfell or Lord of Storms End who might be distant cousins to the Starks and Baratheons, but it is one thing to have a claim on it and another thing to actually possess them.

 

[Blender]

Sure there will be junior branches of each house, many of them marrying into other houses or forming their own houses like the Starks and the Karstarks. As hamzarocks mentioned in his post the books add more people to both the Tyrells and the Martells, Ser Loras in the show is the heir to Highgarden, but is actually the 3rd son in line in the books. So it is likely there are people who can make claims on the titles of Lord of Winterfell or Lord of Storms End who might be distant cousins to the Starks and Baratheons, but it is one thing to have a claim on it and another thing to actually possess them.

In the case of weak claims, you're as likely to have strong vassals break off or try and press their own claim on the region as you are to have a weak cadet branch actually gain control.

In this system, no clear heir isn't good for anyone, as all you're going to get is fighting.

 

[Amazing Kreiderman]

Ramsay is the stupidest and dumbest character ever. Why would anyone want to see that guy triumph over anything.

Because Sansa is such a great character... I hope Ramsey kills her before he is killed