GDT: Game 9: Sharks @ Vegas 7pm NBCSCA

[Jargon]

It’s beyond that. It’s the inconsistency in lines, the effort, the discipline, the lack of improvement. The lack of identity. What kind of team are they trying to be?

Yeah, I’m not sure. I don’t necessarily know that the effort isn’t there — I think they’re trying but when your defense can’t get the puck out of the zone, everything starts breaking down. You can’t play to your identity if you can’t get the puck, so they start pressing and trying desperately to get the puck, but they can’t, so they trip and hold and etc.

There isn’t enough talent on the team and when your best defenseman is probably a #4 on a good team (and maybe a #5 on a great team), there’s a very big problem that I’m not sure coaching can solve.

The line blender thing is literally a thing every coach does in the history of everything.

I’m not saying Wars is doing a great job but I’m just unsure that any coach would be doing much better.

 

[The Nemesis]

I’m not saying Wars is doing a great job but I’m just unsure that any coach would be doing much better.

At least if we'd hired someone like Tortorella there'd be the comedy value of him bursting a blood vessel on the bench.

 

[nabbyfan]

At least if we'd hired someone like Tortorella there'd be the comedy value of him bursting a blood vessel on the bench.

I think Torts would have had a heart attack by now.

You cant blame Warsofsky for this. Look at the roster...its better but still not an NHL Defense.

 

[Alaskanice]

Yeah, I’m not sure. I don’t necessarily know that the effort isn’t there — I think they’re trying but when your defense can’t get the puck out of the zone, everything starts breaking down. You can’t play to your identity if you can’t get the puck, so they start pressing and trying desperately to get the puck, but they can’t, so they trip and hold and etc.

There isn’t enough talent on the team and when your best defenseman is probably a #4 on a good team (and maybe a #5 on a great team), there’s a very big problem that I’m not sure coaching can solve.

The line blender thing is literally a thing every coach does in the history of everything.

I’m not saying Wars is doing a great job but I’m just unsure that any coach would be doing much better.

To your point about the talent here, every game they show up at times during these games. They have tonight. These boys are NHL players and have played for literally their whole lives. They have talent, not necessarily goal scoring but they do have talent.
Putting together these stretches will come and it’ll get better.

 

[TheBeard]

Yeah, I’m not sure. I don’t necessarily know that the effort isn’t there — I think they’re trying but when your defense can’t get the puck out of the zone, everything starts breaking down. You can’t play to your identity if you can’t get the puck, so they start pressing and trying desperately to get the puck, but they can’t, so they trip and hold and etc.

There isn’t enough talent on the team and when your best defenseman is probably a #4 on a good team (and maybe a #5 on a great team), there’s a very big problem that I’m not sure coaching can solve.

The line blender thing is literally a thing every coach does in the history of everything.

I’m not saying Wars is doing a great job but I’m just unsure that any coach would be doing much better.

I think there’s a major lack of commitment to detail and playing smart hockey. Too much panic and unsureness leads to tons of lazy penalties.

 

[Alaskanice]

I think there’s a major lack of commitment to detail and playing smart hockey. Too much panic and unsureness leads to tons of lazy penalties.

The proverbial holding the stick too tight.

 

[OrrNumber4]

Yeah, I’m not sure. I don’t necessarily know that the effort isn’t there — I think they’re trying but when your defense can’t get the puck out of the zone, everything starts breaking down. You can’t play to your identity if you can’t get the puck, so they start pressing and trying desperately to get the puck, but they can’t, so they trip and hold and etc.

There isn’t enough talent on the team and when your best defenseman is probably a #4 on a good team (and maybe a #5 on a great team), there’s a very big problem that I’m not sure coaching can solve.

The line blender thing is literally a thing every coach does in the history of everything.

I’m not saying Wars is doing a great job but I’m just unsure that any coach would be doing much better.

That was very well said. The problem is that Grier didn't address the biggest hole on the team, and everyone shrugged their shoulders and said that it was OK since the team wasn't going to compete this year. But getting curb-stomped like this is demoralizing and depressing, and it is not an environment conducive to development.

The other issue is the lack of detail in players's games. The lack of experience shows; obviously in players like Smith and Gushchin, but also in guys like Zetterlund and Eklund. Granlund, Goodrow, Sturm, and maybe Wennberg consistently do "the little things".

 

[TheBeard]

This team is so talent deprived that I don't think they're in any position to dictate what kind of team they want to be. They're just too shit.

Yeah I disagree. You can be a harder team to play against regardless of talent. There is a lack of leadership both on and off the ice.

 

[Star Platinum]

This defense is so awful I’m not sure there’s a coach out there that could do much better. Consider the Barracuda: we all wanted McCarthy fired, they went out and rebuilt the team so it’s actually… good… and they’ve shot out of the gate. I just don’t think we have the personnel.

This is most likely the right answer, but I want the people who were positive that Quinn was dragging a bad roster down to consider that sometimes, a coach can only do so much.

That was very well said. The problem is that Grier didn't address the biggest hole on the team, and everyone shrugged their shoulders and said that it was OK since the team wasn't going to compete this year. But getting curb-stomped like this is demoralizing and depressing, and it is not an environment conducive to development.

The other issue is the lack of detail in players's games. The lack of experience shows; obviously in players like Smith and Gushchin, but also in guys like Zetterlund and Eklund. Granlund, Goodrow, Sturm, and maybe Wennberg consistently do "the little things".

I don't think anyone felt okay about it, but players have to want to come here too.

 

[Skeksis25]

If we fire two coaches in a row for not being able to extract more wins out of godawful rosters given to them, how can we expect anyone worth their salt to want to coach here until the roster is improved? I don't know what coach is going to come here and stumble on to the magic line combinations when you are forced to plug in 7-8 4th liners and a bunch of #7 defencemen into the starting lineup.

Are there players on this roster who are actually performing worse than you would expect them to? Sure, Smith should be making more of an impact and maybe Thrun should have shown more improvement by now, but other than that, I feel like the players are all doing what you would think they are capable of doing. Which isn't much.

 

[Kcoyote3]

I think we'd have a win if Marco Sturm was the coach. He would have had to step on the ice but we'd have gotten it.

 

[BaileyMacTavish]

My depression actually isn't helped by this team sucking shit all day lmfao

 

[The Nemesis]

I think we'd have a win if Marco Sturm was the coach. He would have had to step on the ice but we'd have gotten it.

"Nico, give me your sweater."

 

[YUPPY 2 7 10 11]

I think we'd have a win if Marco Sturm was the coach. He would have had to step on the ice but we'd have gotten it.

Still not too late to hire Marco Sturm.

 

[Quid Pro Clowe]

Artificial disk replacement surgery…so he already had an artificial disk and he needed it replaced??

Wish you knew this much about the sharks, Randis

f*** Hertl. Got your pay check and bailed as soon as you could.

 

[bluefunnel]

There should be a penalty for woo-ing.

 

[The Nemesis]

There should be a penalty for woo-ing.

Wooing is only acceptable if Ric Flair is in the building. And even then it's debatable.

 

[TheBigDrunkPanda]

Is it possible that we’ll never win again?

Honestly I’m starting to think that

 

[Jargon]

To your point about the talent here, every game they show up at times during these games. They have tonight. These boys are NHL players and have played for literally their whole lives. They have talent, not necessarily goal scoring but they do have talent.
Putting together these stretches will come and it’ll get better.

They have talent because they’re NHL players but they, and I mean particularly the defense, do not have the talent to play where they have been placed in the lineup. It’s no affront to them, we have no one better, but it’s partly why we’re so bad.

 

[Bizz]

I seriously hope this is the last game Rutta plays in the NHL.

 

[SJSharksfan39]

Honestly I’m starting to think that

I don't see a team in the league that the Sharks have a shot against. One aspect of development is having a culture where you want to come to work and perform. When does that negative culture kick in? Ok, so you are not going to fire Warsofsky. What are you going to do?

 

[The Nemesis]

I don't see a team in the league that the Sharks have a shot against. One aspect of development is having a culture where you want to come to work and perform. When does that negative culture kick in? Ok, so you are not going to fire Warsofsky. What are you going to do?

Bag skate.

 

[SJSharksfan39]

Bag skate.

Now you're just making the culture toxic.

 

[bluefunnel]

Kunin!!!

 

[YUPPY 2 7 10 11]

LUKE!!!!