GDT: Game 9: Sharks @ Vegas 7pm NBCSCA

[Alaskanice]

The Luke!!

 

[Lebanezer]

Nice spin by Zetterlund.

 

[The Nemesis]

Now you're just making the culture toxic.

Maybe some hatred will pull them together.

 

[The Nemesis]

1st line Kunin incoming.

 

[hohosaregood]

if they hit 30 shots and score another goal, i'll call it a wash

 

[Jargon]

I think there’s a major lack of commitment to detail and playing smart hockey. Too much panic and unsureness leads to tons of lazy penalties.

I do think part of the panic is that losing is habitual and when you get into a rut like this it becomes exponentially harder to get out. They looked pretty good the first few games of the season but every loss is taking a toll and everyone is gripping their stick (except Granlund who has decided to quietly become a star).

we need D that can move the puck and we need Celebrini and we need a win so everyone can chill out a bit, til then, they’re a bad team that’s gotten so deeply into their own heads that it’s going to be a real battle to get out of it.

 

[Skeksis25]

Top line -3 again. Goddamn Will Smith.

 

[Jargon]

i just want Smith to score

 

[YUPPY 2 7 10 11]

2023-2024 San Jose Sharks 1st 9 games = 35 Goals

Thu, Oct 12	vs Vegas	L4-1	0-1-0	Kahkonen	Zadina
Sat, Oct 14	vs Colorado	L2-1 SO	0-1-1	Blackwood	Blackwood
Tue, Oct 17	vs Carolina	L6-3	0-2-1	Blackwood	Zetterlund
Thu, Oct 19	vs Boston	L3-1	0-3-1	Kahkonen	Kahkonen
Sat, Oct 21	@ Nashville	L5-1	0-4-1	Blackwood	Hertl
Tue, Oct 24	@ Florida	L3-1	0-5-1	Blackwood	Blackwood
Thu, Oct 26	@ Tampa Bay	L6-0	0-6-1	Blackwood	Duclair
Fri, Oct 27	@ Carolina	L3-0	0-7-1	Kahkonen	Kahkonen
Sun, Oct 29	@ Washington	L3-1	0-8-1	Blackwood	Blackwood

2024-2025 San Jose Sharks 1st 9 games = 42 Goals

DATE	OPPONENT	RESULT	W-L-OTL	GOALIE	TOP PERFORMER
Thu, Oct 10	vs St. Louis	L5-4 OT	0-0-1	Blackwood	Toffoli
Sat, Oct 12	vs Anaheim	L2-0	0-1-1	Vanecek	Vanecek
Tue, Oct 15	@ Dallas	L3-2 SO	0-1-2	Blackwood	Blackwood
Thu, Oct 17	@ Chicago	L4-2	0-2-2	Vanecek	Granlund
Fri, Oct 18	@ Winnipeg	L8-3	0-3-2	Blackwood	Toffoli
Sun, Oct 20	vs Colorado	L4-1	0-4-2	Vanecek	Eklund
Tue, Oct 22	@ Anaheim	L3-1	0-5-2	Blackwood	Blackwood
Thu, Oct 24	@ Los Angeles	L3-2	0-6-2	Blackwood	Granlund

10/26/24 @Vegas 7-3 so far Vanecek


The defense this year is worst than last year

 

[PeePeeMcGee]

From Sheng Peng

"Good" news for Warsofsky: He's still a couple games from the worst start to an NHL coaching career ever. Andre Tourigny lost his first 11 games (0-10-1) with the Arizona Coyotes in 2021-22"

And I'd argue Tourigny was in a better position in terms of the team he inherited in 2021-22 than Warsofsky is right now. And he's still Utah's coach

 

[Alaskanice]

Rats.

 

[Anomie2029]

I think the Cuda could actually beat this Sharks team to be honest.

 

[Bizz]

I don't see a team in the league that the Sharks have a shot against. One aspect of development is having a culture where you want to come to work and perform. When does that negative culture kick in? Ok, so you are not going to fire Warsofsky. What are you going to do?

Make the entire team read the "Horror Bad" thread on the Main board.

 

[weastern bias]

Missed this one

So how'd it go?

 

[CHALUPA]

Missed this one

So how'd it go?

Almost had them

 

[Anomie2029]

I loved the "Gushchin has been promoted" discourse before the game.

He gets 10 minutes lol.

 

[TheBigDrunkPanda]

I don't see a team in the league that the Sharks have a shot against. One aspect of development is having a culture where you want to come to work and perform. When does that negative culture kick in? Ok, so you are not going to fire Warsofsky. What are you going to do?

Who built this mess? Can probably start there

 

[PeePeeMcGee]

Who built this mess? Can probably start there

Firing Grier is probably a step I'm not willing to take right now if I ran this team. This team needed a teardown and the pool itself is promising. Honestly, the only "answer" I currently believe in, push through the dookie.

If you're stuck with a defensive group that is currently playing 1 NHL solid defensemen (Walman), you're going to be terrible.

 

[Lebanezer]

Who built this mess? Can probably start there

This is the hard part. Grier has done a commendable job with the teardown and the amateur scouting department is doing a good job. The pro scouting department on the other hand, hasn't created much confidence in their ability to identify and acquire good players.

 

[Star Platinum]

Who built this mess? Can probably start there

Still cleaning up the prior guy's mess. GM's are usually the last ones to fall on a sword, but they also only get to hire so many coaches before the owner's gaze turns elsewhere.

At any rate, nobody fires a GM midseason and we're still waiting to see Celebrini.

 

[The Nemesis]

This is the hard part. Grier has done a commendable job with the teardown and the amateur scouting department is doing a good job. The pro scouting department on the other hand, hasn't created much confidence in their ability to identify and acquire good players.

This is Kunin slander and some people will not stand for it.

 

[mogambomoroo]

I'm still not going to totally lose all hope for this team until Celebrini comes back and plays around 10 games. After that I may have an opinion. I mean all of you saw the difference with Celebrini and without, he can single handedly bring so much of that missing leadership, talent and poise that this team needs.
We need Celebrini much more than we knew.

 

[tahoesharksfan]

Who built this mess? Can probably start there

Look up the chain. Who let things linger for so long before actually turning over the GM position? How many seasons did that delay put us behind?

In spite of what the the actual hockey personnel might produce they are hindered by working for our management….

 

[Anomie2029]

I'm still not going to totally lose all hope for this team until Celebrini comes back and plays around 10 games. After that I may have an opinion. I mean all of you saw the difference with Celebrini and without, he can single handedly bring so much of that missing leadership, talent and poise that this team needs.
We need Celebrini much more than we knew.

I mean, I would be with except for the fact the team did play with a bit of jump for the first few games. Celebrini comes back to this group, and they may lose 7-4 instead of 7-3.

This club places too much emphasis on “vets who play the right way” and don’t hold them accountable in anyway. They’re not better defensively, they’re not responsible players, they’re just role players to fill gaps in lineups, they shouldn’t be what you’re building your lineup around.

We know the defence group is abhorrent. But outside of scratching Benning, they haven’t tried anything else. We’ve had 9 games of Ferraro-Rutta tire fire and they’re still be deployed.

The bullshit “who else is there?” is lazy. This team/lineup doesn’t work and has never worked - why are we persisting with it. It can’t really get worse.

 

[SJSharksfan39]

Who built this mess? Can probably start there

This was supposed to be the year we see some improvement. I'm not ready to fire Grier yet because this was a massive teardown but if we are still tearing down, I'm not sure if that is great.