GDT: Game #9: Devils visit Columbus - 7pm - A History Lesson

Status
Not open for further replies.

Benedict Parisechuk

Army of Pandolfo's
Apr 5, 2013
8,371
1
Chicago, IL
It was quite disgusting.

Horrible giveaways leading to two goals. Bad penalty leading to a goal.

Herendous PP that couldn't find the O zone with a map.

Harrold, Tedenby, Lokti barf.

At least the Volchenkov crunching hit a la Stevens happened directly in front of us and about 30 seconds after I proclaimed in disgust that they were uninspired and nobody was even hitting - "when was the last time you saw a Devil throw a big hit at least?" BOOM. I was incredulous Dubi didn't get more than a minor. Double minor and a 10 or a 2 and a 5 at least. My buddy is a ref and actually works the Blue Jacket camp and he agreed it was a bad call not to tag him for more.

In all folks can talk about the coach but holy cow the team played maybe 8 minutes of hard hockey and went through the motions otherwise from where I sat. It was as sad as infuriating.

The only positive was seeing Stevens up close with that mammoth ring. How that D can see that ring, see the scarred scowl of Scotty and know his legendary drive and not muster more is beyond me.

Someone needs to rifle a skate across the room and soon.
The fact that there ALREADY going through the motions and acting like there playing out the string on OCTOBER 22 is quite terrifying. This might get worse before it gets better especially if the jabroni behind the bench sticks around longer than he should. They honestly look like they have absolutely zero response for whatever the hell Pete is preaching in practice and during games.
 

Bgav

We Stylin'
Sponsor
Sep 3, 2009
24,315
6,163
Vancouver
Lou should order the team busdriver to drive the bus in reverse! There you go a new hockey superstition!

:biglaugh:

Teddy needs a fresh start somwhere else unfortunately. Perhaps even back in Europe.
Hopefully when the Devils eventually get a new coach it'll be the fresh start that he needs.

Well Tedenby didn't do himself any favors tonight. His system just doesn't work anymore. We make every goalie we play look like Hasek. The only reason we scored 4 on Lundqvist was because he looked like a Pee Wee league goalie that game.

I'm tired of 1 or 2 goals on like 30 shots. At some point we need to stop saying that our shooting percentage is so low because we're unlucky, and admit that this system does not work with the players we have now. That's not completely on Deboer, but if he can't adjust and change it up, it will require a coaching change.

Tedenby is probably just low on confidence. Seems like he gets demoted and chance he ****s up. Peter should should just give the kid a chance and let him actually play. I bet you he'd do just fine in a better role.
 

Bleedred

#FIREDAVEROGALSKI
Sponsor
May 1, 2011
133,561
63,298
The thing is, PDB is liked by the players and the system has evidence of working. I too hate his lineup and line rotation decisions but the problems seem to loom large:

1. Few players playing at or above their salary
2. Many players playing below: Zajac, Salvo, Volch, Marty, Henrique, Elias, Zubrus
3. No offensive talent in the pipeline or young forwards playing with the Devils (Henrique, Tedenby, Josefson = no impact). Not much in the AHL aside from Boucher (who knows).
4. A series of disappointments with first round picks (Zajac, Larsson, Matteau, Boo, Josefson)
5. A team that's certainly not overly fast

If Lou is honest with himself, it's time to hit the trade wires, make your buyouts, re-evaluate your talent scouts and give Harris a call to open up the checkbook.

This system really just doesn't work anymore. Especially with a lot of the players you named.
 

Holtz My Bahls

Registered User
Jan 5, 2011
3,934
37
New Jersey
Pretty much. How can you call out his favorite Petey Jr?

What's it gonna take to get Pete out?

All I can think of are a few things. Pete gets mad, throws a tantrum, and picks up the bench and throws it on the ice. A player fires a puck at Pete in practice. We give up a hat trick to an enforcer maybe?

If its the bolded one we are screwed because Lou will sign him once he hits FA :laugh:
 

Bleedred

#FIREDAVEROGALSKI
Sponsor
May 1, 2011
133,561
63,298
If this team can't get up for road games then that falls on leadership...the players...coach..etc

2 wins in the last 24 road games is it?

If we really checked it out I would say there's a possibility that Deboer is greatly outcoached at last change.

Though we did have a good road record his first year here. Who knows?
 

NJDevs26

Once upon a time...
Mar 21, 2007
68,533
34,110
2 wins in the last 24 road games is it?

If we really checked it out I would say there's a possibility that Deboer is greatly outcoached at last change.

Though we did have a good road record his first year here. Who knows?

2-13-8...close enough. 2 road wins in our last 23 games.
 

Uli Hiemer

Dr. Evil
Oct 19, 2011
13,915
11
Queens
2 wins in the last 24 road games is it?

If we really checked it out I would say there's a possibility that Deboer is greatly outcoached at last change.

Though we did have a good road record his first year here. Who knows?

Who knows?

You don't lose Parise & Kovalchuk, and to a certain extent Clarkson

and then replace them with a bunch of 2nd and 3rd liners. That's what the team is made up of. Lou might have been handcuffed, but his refusal to go the rebuild route may lead to some bad years for a while here. That's the impression I am getting.
 

Bleedred

#FIREDAVEROGALSKI
Sponsor
May 1, 2011
133,561
63,298
Who knows?

You don't lose Parise & Kovalchuk, and to a certain extent Clarkson

and then replace them with a bunch of 2nd and 3rd liners. That's what the team is made up of. Lou might have been handcuffed, but his refusal to go the rebuild route may lead to some bad years for a while here. That's the impression I am getting.
Obviously the 11-12 team was much better. But since last year we have had a horrible road record. We've had a ****** record period, but that road record is an eyesore.
 

ThePSEGPowerPoster

LOSER POINTS!
Feb 23, 2013
11,822
0
It was quite disgusting.

Horrible giveaways leading to two goals. Bad penalty leading to a goal.

Herendous PP that couldn't find the O zone with a map.

Harrold, Tedenby, Lokti barf.

At least the Volchenkov crunching hit a la Stevens happened directly in front of us and about 30 seconds after I proclaimed in disgust that they were uninspired and nobody was even hitting - "when was the last time you saw a Devil throw a big hit at least?" BOOM. I was incredulous Dubi didn't get more than a minor. Double minor and a 10 or a 2 and a 5 at least. My buddy is a ref and actually works the Blue Jacket camp and he agreed it was a bad call not to tag him for more.

In all folks can talk about the coach but holy cow the team played maybe 8 minutes of hard hockey and went through the motions otherwise from where I sat. It was as sad as infuriating.

The only positive was seeing Stevens up close with that mammoth ring. How that D can see that ring, see the scarred scowl of Scotty and know his legendary drive and not muster more is beyond me.

Someone needs to rifle a skate across the room and soon.

Well said. This team is playing uninspired, unmotivated hockey. Outside of a handful of shifts you see and get nothing from this group. It's sad.
 

ThePSEGPowerPoster

LOSER POINTS!
Feb 23, 2013
11,822
0
The team is horrible. Some of it's coaching, but not all of it.

I'm not going to kill this team until I see it with a competent coach. The problem is that the level of incompetence with the personnel is so high, that I honestly cannot judge this group yet.

How can I blame the players right now when our coach can't utilize anyone properly? How can I judge Josefson, Lokti, Tedenby, Fayne, Larsson, or any of our young guys properly when they're all playing with a 12-gauge to their temple, afraid to make mistakes?

We are seeing terrible hockey but I'm going to blame the coach right now and defer judgement on this group until a new voice comes in here.
 

ThePSEGPowerPoster

LOSER POINTS!
Feb 23, 2013
11,822
0
I could understand if they were a 9-12 place team like you said. I really can't believe it's THIS bad though.

I could understand if they ****ing tried. Just try. They're not even trying. Zajac is playing the most uninspired hockey I've ever seen from him. Our young guys look petrified of making mistakes.

You wonder where Loktionov's creativity went? Where Brunner's creativity went? Where Larsson's skill went?

Down the toilet. They're all playing frightened that the next mistake will mean they have to sit in the press box for a few weeks. It's just an awful way of managing a team. The vets are uninspired, complacent and the youngsters are cowering for their ****ing careers.
 

ThePSEGPowerPoster

LOSER POINTS!
Feb 23, 2013
11,822
0
At least Kovy is gone and we've gotten back to Devils hockey.

Say what you will about Kovy but if he was here he would have already flipped a ****. With players that great at this game you get inspired hockey and you get vocal, pissed off post games. This team NEEDS Kovy's ********* personality just as much as they need his play.

Can someone that room EARN their letters? Sal? Greene? Zajac? Patty even? Someone stand up and start chucking pucks at Pete for being a ****ing (censor).
 

Bleedred

#FIREDAVEROGALSKI
Sponsor
May 1, 2011
133,561
63,298
At least Kovy is gone and we've gotten back to Devils hockey.

I still don't think this is a much better team with Kovalchuk. We may have not gotten shutout those two times, hell maybe we score 2 goals tonight.

I don't think we'd have a significantly higher number of wins though. Remember we were bad with Kovalchuk for much of March last year. Think we had one regulation win with him from late February to late March. Marty came back and we won 2 in a row in regulation. Kovalchuk was injured in that second game.
 

Tundra

Registered User
Oct 20, 2005
10,393
1,394
I'm not going to kill this team until I see it with a competent coach. The problem is that the level of incompetence with the personnel is so high, that I honestly cannot judge this group yet.

How can I blame the players right now when our coach can't utilize anyone properly? How can I judge Josefson, Lokti, Tedenby, Fayne, Larsson, or any of our young guys properly when they're all playing with a 12-gauge to their temple, afraid to make mistakes?

We are seeing terrible hockey but I'm going to blame the coach right now and defer judgement on this group until a new voice comes in here.

It's Lou and DeBoer. Simply getting rid of Pete wouldn't solve this. Blow it all up and I mean top to bottom.
 

ThePSEGPowerPoster

LOSER POINTS!
Feb 23, 2013
11,822
0
I still don't think this is a much better team with Kovalchuk. We may have not gotten shutout those two times, hell maybe we score 2 goals tonight.

I don't think we'd have a significantly higher number of wins though. Remember we were bad with Kovalchuk for much of March last year. Think we had one regulation win with him from late February to late March. Marty came back and we won 2 in a row in regulation. Kovalchuk was injured in that second game.

If Kovalchuk was here Pete would be fired. He would have told Lou he would prefer to go back to Russia if he had to put up with Pete's ********.
 

db2011

Registered User
Oct 10, 2011
3,565
474
Brooklyn
In 1492, Columbus sailed the ocean blue.
North or south, east or west, he really never knew.

Down the St. Lawrence River, to the large lake,
To his crew, Columbus admitted he was a fake.

After the long journey to Lake Erie,
our fake hero was getting weary.

He found a nice place for a nap on the shore,
the crew said "**** this fake! No more!"

They left him dreaming in the sun,
with nothing to eat, not even a hotdog bun.

He awoke alone but did not care,
for a new world he found, his legend would bear.

Except he really wasnt alone here,
for pointing at him were many a spear.

Wrapped in a bluejacket, down the river Scioto,
taken to a place he could not imagine he would go.

The middle of nowhere, a city grew before him,
what began as a trip with smiles turned grim.

In the city center, a surprise awaited,
the speaker rose his hand, the hubbub abated.

"This city is yours great traveler, to make,
it shall be named after you, to honor your mistake.

The sports shall be pathetic
appetite for them apathetic.

BlueJackets shall be the name,
Because you wore that when you came."

"WHY HERE!?!" Columbus screamed
"Is this not what you dreamed?

To be remembered for eternity?"
"That of course is a certainty,

but this has not gone to plan."
"I'm sorry to hear that, pale man,

your only way out is to die, I'm sure of it."

"Here though? This awful place? ****."

-Peter DeBoer

And that players, is how Columbus was founded. Now go out there and kick their ass.

hey... at least you guys scored a goal
 

ThePSEGPowerPoster

LOSER POINTS!
Feb 23, 2013
11,822
0
It's Lou and DeBoer. Simply getting rid of Pete wouldn't solve this. Blow it all up and I mean top to bottom.

You start from the bottom. You get rid of the coach. If Lou's roster doesn't work at that point, you sack him too. I'm at that point with Lou.

And if Lou doesn't fire Pete this year - sack them both.
 

Bleedred

#FIREDAVEROGALSKI
Sponsor
May 1, 2011
133,561
63,298
If Kovalchuk was here Pete would be fired. He would have told Lou he would prefer to go back to Russia if he had to put up with Pete's ********.

I'm not sure.

Remember though, this team started nosedive a month before we lost Kovalchuk to injury.
 

SteveCangialosi123

Registered User
Feb 17, 2012
29,568
53,203
NJ
Say what you will about Kovy but if he was here he would have already flipped a ****. With players that great at this game you get inspired hockey and you get vocal, pissed off post games. This team NEEDS Kovy's ********* personality just as much as they need his play.

Can someone that room EARN their letters? Sal? Greene? Zajac? Patty even? Someone stand up and start chucking pucks at Pete for being a ****ing (censor).

I was being sarcastic lol...Kovy was clearly our MVP and we are missing him bad. We'd still suck with him because our d is woeful, Lou has been horrendous for years and Pete is an all time bad coach at the moment. The absolute morons who expected addition by subtraction should be ashamed. ASHAMED!
 

ThePSEGPowerPoster

LOSER POINTS!
Feb 23, 2013
11,822
0
I'm not sure.

Remember though, this team started nosedive a month before we lost Kovalchuk to injury.

Here's something I strongly believe:

If Lemaire was coaching here Kovy never leaves.

If Kovy never left and Pete was coaching and we are where we are today - Kovy would have gotten Pete fired.

He's a diva. It's what he does. And this team needs a diva. It needs a vocal leader. It needs someone who isn't universally loved, silent, and all that mushy garbage. It needs someone who everyone in the room knows is the best player on the team. Period.
 
Status
Not open for further replies.

Ad

Upcoming events

Ad

Ad