GDT: Game 8 - SKA vs Avengard September 23 12:30 EST

[SlafySZN]

Did he even get scored on? I feel it’s very low judging by what I saw at this point.

I honestly don’t think he’s been on the ice for a goal against. Maybe once.

 

[sukimono]

Yeah, I'm sure SKA would be highly receptive to the Habs acting as helicopter parents with regards to their kid, Ivan. He's going to be there for the season and will do what Rottenberg tells him to do, and he'll emerge unscathed.

Again, not worried one bit for Demidov. He's been playing great against men and indeed will be here in a year from now. Perhaps even before that, although those are less probable scenarios. But i wouldn't rule out the loan option just yet. Whether the SKA is receptive or not means very little, they know he's a goner. I don't think the Flyers were all too Kumbaya with the SKA organization last year either when it comes to Mitchkov's ice time management. You want what's best for the player and his development. Back-to-back 10mins toi coming off of a 4pts night is not exactly a great sign. We knew we'd probably end up in this situation, and so here we are.

 

[SannywithoutCompy]

Demidov will be fine, SKA is only going to hurt themselves in the long run with this donkey brained approach

 

[BLONG7]

The negative for Demidov is really just doing really well and not getting rewarded with the ice time, that could cause frustration but he's a good kid so I'm sure he's managing it well.

Its not the worse case scenario, the frustration is from the fan side because the actual usage and tropes about treating young players don't apply here, he's impactful any time his line actually gets the puck, specifically him, he's drawing penalties at a high rate, he's creating chances at a ludicrous rate for his TOI.. he should be getting more ice time and more PP time.

There isn't a legit argument, being 18 years old is a stupid argument, no one would say Chicago was doing right by Bedard not using him on the PP and playing him 12 minutes a night.

I have faith in the habs, watching and listening etc as we move forward. I am sure they will intervene if they feel the need.
He has had a fantastic start guys, but my gut tells me the team and the league want him to stay and no way is he doing that, so this is the type of reaction he gets from his coach and teamm......so be it.

 

[Captain Mountain]

The negative for Demidov is really just doing really well and not getting rewarded with the ice time, that could cause frustration but he's a good kid so I'm sure he's managing it well.

Its not the worse case scenario, the frustration is from the fan side because the actual usage and tropes about treating young players don't apply here, he's impactful any time his line actually gets the puck, specifically him, he's drawing penalties at a high rate, he's creating chances at a ludicrous rate for his TOI.. he should be getting more ice time and more PP time.

There isn't a legit argument, being 18 years old is a stupid argument, no one would say Chicago was doing right by Bedard not using him on the PP and playing him 12 minutes a night.

Its a serious problem for any player anywhere at any age if they are significantly affected by not being rewarded for their quality of play. Either by their coach or by not getting the points. There's no hint that Demidov is affected at all.

Chicago had zero depth, Bedard was also awful defensively (like most 18 year old NHLers) and got injured. And he's (rightly) the most hyped prospect in nearly a decade. SKA is a KHL team that has depth and Demidov isn't Bedard, There's really nothing comparable here

I still don't see that its a big deal that Demidov averaging 13 minutes a night in his first 8 pro games a big deal on the face of it. Its too small a sample. Its not bad for Demidov who has played well. Its probably bad for SKA, but they don't care. It shouldn't affect Demidov and he's still playing meaningful minutes on one of the top teams in the KHL. Hopefully he'll be able to earn more trust from Rotenberg, but either way he's getting good pro experience and the Canadiens will be able to direct his development better in a year.

 

[Gustave]

I honestly don’t think he’s been on the ice for a goal against. Maybe once.

I think the same way, I haven’t seen one, but I’ve missed three and a half game

 

[LaP]

уважение

u-va-zeniye

Should not it be ouva?

 

[GoodKiwi]

Should not it be ouva?

yeah, it should. Russian letter u is harder than the English one, so ouva is correct.

 

[WeThreeKings]

Its a serious problem for any player anywhere at any age if they are significantly affected by not being rewarded for their quality of play. Either by their coach or by not getting the points. There's no hint that Demidov is affected at all.

Chicago had zero depth, Bedard was also awful defensively (like most 18 year old NHLers) and got injured. And he's (rightly) the most hyped prospect in nearly a decade. SKA is a KHL team that has depth and Demidov isn't Bedard, There's really nothing comparable here

I still don't see that its a big deal that Demidov averaging 13 minutes a night in his first 8 pro games a big deal on the face of it. Its too small a sample. Its not bad for Demidov who has played well. Its probably bad for SKA, but they don't care. It shouldn't affect Demidov and he's still playing meaningful minutes on one of the top teams in the KHL. Hopefully he'll be able to earn more trust from Rotenberg, but either way he's getting good pro experience and the Canadiens will be able to direct his development better in a year.

I personally never said it was a big deal. Just as a fan watching it, it's frustrating because it doesn't have merit to be handled the way he's been handled with how good he's been.

Personally I'm happy that he's getting 3rd line minutes in the KHL as it could be worse but still frustrated that his play demands more and Rotenberg just is too stupid to allow play to dictate what he's doing.

Outside of loaning him to the MHL and or giving him sub 10 minutes every night, there's no way he gets impacted. Kids too good and his mentality is A+

 

[SwiftyHab]

Draws Penalty on Sure Goal 0:29
Nice Pass/Chance 4:54
Shot 5:25
Nice Pass 8:49

On the bright side, @montreal can spend more time with his family since he needs so little time splicing together Demidov’s shifts.

 

[HuGo boss]

As much as I'd like demi to get ice time a little adversity isn't a bad thing for such a young player teachs not to take ice time for granted and he has to work twice as hard as vets, long term with the right mentality (sounds like he does) could be a good thing wosrt case it's only 1 year

 

[MTL Dirty Birdy]

Its a serious problem for any player anywhere at any age if they are significantly affected by not being rewarded for their quality of play. Either by their coach or by not getting the points. There's no hint that Demidov is affected at all.

Chicago had zero depth, Bedard was also awful defensively (like most 18 year old NHLers) and got injured. And he's (rightly) the most hyped prospect in nearly a decade. SKA is a KHL team that has depth and Demidov isn't Bedard, There's really nothing comparable here

I still don't see that its a big deal that Demidov averaging 13 minutes a night in his first 8 pro games a big deal on the face of it. Its too small a sample. Its not bad for Demidov who has played well. Its probably bad for SKA, but they don't care. It shouldn't affect Demidov and he's still playing meaningful minutes on one of the top teams in the KHL. Hopefully he'll be able to earn more trust from Rotenberg, but either way he's getting good pro experience and the Canadiens will be able to direct his development better in a year.

I personally love Demidov game a lot more than Bedard. At this point in time he’s a more complete player while still being elite offensively

 

[Habs]

I personally love Demidov game a lot more than Bedard. At this point in time he’s a more complete player while still being elite offensively

bro, let's get real for a minute. Stop it

 

[Kennerback]

Ivan Demidov: KHL man of the week.

Man of the Week: Ivan Demidov

KHL.ru’s weekly column ‘Man of the Week’ continues with Ivan Demidov. The young forward had a striking game against HC Sochi last week, scoring four points and being awarded with the Best rookie honors. Ivan Demidov, born on Dec. 10, 2005, in ...

en.khl.ru

 

[SwiftyHab]

Ivan Demidov: KHL man of the week.

Man of the Week: Ivan Demidov

KHL.ru’s weekly column ‘Man of the Week’ continues with Ivan Demidov. The young forward had a striking game against HC Sochi last week, scoring four points and being awarded with the Best rookie honors. Ivan Demidov, born on Dec. 10, 2005, in ...

en.khl.ru

And for his award, he’ll get less ice time

 

[Kennerback]

And for his award, he’ll get less ice time

One day he’ll learn how to be a better person!

 

[The Last Red]

I personally love Demidov game a lot more than Bedard. At this point in time he’s a more complete player while still being elite offensively

I prefer Demidov's game to McDavid's or even Gretzky's.

 

[ViD]

I found a list of basic hockey terms on Reddit and I added pronunciation (in parenthesis) :


pass - пас, или пасуй, или дай пасс depending of form (pas, ili pasooy, ili day pass)

shoot - бросай (brosay)

shot - бросок (brosok)

line change - смена (smyena)

offside - офсайд, вне игры (ofsayd, vnye igri)

to score a goal - забросить шайбу (zabrosit' shayboo)

slap shot - щелчок (hshyelchok)

snap shot -бросок (brosok) - in fact, u can call any shot as бросок

wrist shot - бросок с кистей, кистевой бросок (brosok s kistyey, kistyevoy brosok)

tip-in, redirection - подправление -no such word in normal speach but hockey (podpravlyeniye)

goalie - вратарь (vratar')

dman - защитник (zashshitnik)

forward - нападающий, форвард (napadayooshshiy, forvard)

first-second-third line - первая-вторая-третья пятерка (pyervaya-vtoraya-tryet'ya pyatyerka)

PP - большинство, игра в большинстве (bol'shinstvo, igra v bol'shinstvye)

PK - меньшинство, игра в меньшинстве (myen'shinstvo, igra v myen'shinstvye)

puck - шайба (shayba)

stick - клюшка (klyooshka)

Hey coach, play Demidov more - Эй, тренер, играй больше с Демидовым (Ey, trener, igray bol'she s Demidovym)

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The best example of English approximation of Щ is the American pronunciation of “Chi” in Chicago