GDT: GAME 79: CAPS @ HABS | Meatloaf | Thurs., April 6th, 2023, 7:00PM -- TSN2, RDS, NBCSWA, TSN690, 98.5 FM

[Naslundforever]

MSL is way over his head...club look absolute shit with 0 strategy.

Must be hard for a competitive guy to know the fans could not care less about the team, having collectively embraced total tanking.

 

[Rapala]

For myself, I would have just not play him tonight but let's not forget that there is a geopolitical dimension that overtake a lot of other causes these days with Russia. These guys are screwed between two worlds.

Exactly. I haven't talked to his family so I can't say they aren't in danger. Anything is possible when a Meglomaniac has absolute power.

 

[Naslundforever]

Yes, people are allowed to have different opinions.. like whether Pineapple belongs on pizza.

Having the opinion that someone being their authentic self, in who they are, and who they love.. is wrong or unnatural, is not an opinion, it's a prejudice. Hating someone because of what they look like, where they are from, their gender identity, their sexual orientation, etc. is not something that should be tolerated or allowed to persist as a difference of opinion.

That being said, I respect Gurianov's decision to not participate because of where he and his family are from and that what is going on there may bring some undue pressure onto his family. Whether or not that's an escapism for simply being homophobic or intolerant, I don't know but I won't judge the guy on it because as MSL we just don't really know their reality and I'm not gonna hate for hate's sake and hope that he's a better person than that.

I won’t judge, he’s just in the wrong country. I won’t cry a tear for a douchebag millionnaire when I weigh his troubles against the violence lgtbq+ go through. Gtfo if you are scared. - as far as I know they pay folk to play hockey back in russia too.

 

[Fatbiggie]

4 games left.. we are almost there.

 

[Adam Michaels]

I think that seals the will gurianov be retained question.

It's not this that seals the deal. It's his actual play on the ice that seals it.

 

[Rapala]

It's not this that seals the deal. It's his actual play on the ice that seals it.

It's not trending well that is for sure. No way we keep him if we can't work with him. RHP is like the "Little Engine that could" Gurianov is like "The Big Engine that didn't"

 

[Gaylord Q Tinkledink]

the “my family is in danger if i wear the jersey” is the most obvious load of crap i’ve ever seen lol

Nah. Saying it goes against your religion, a religion which has came out and stated it's cool to support, is.

I don't think people understand Russia all that well.

Gurianov is a fringe NHLer at best. He might not get physically harmed, but he could be prevented from playing in the KHL and family members might lose their jobs, financial backing, etc.

 

[Rapala]

Our Boy Nick scores on his first shift buoyed by his unbridled excitement at having RHP back on his flank. He may want to wear a blinder on one side though.

 

[Censored Toad]

Well.. only 3 more games to go. I just hope to be entertained.

 

[Tyson]

Nah. Saying it goes against your religion, a religion which has came out and stated it's cool to support, is.

I don't think people understand Russia all that well.

Gurianov is a fringe NHLer at best. He might not get physically harmed, but he could be prevented from playing in the KHL and family members might lose their jobs, financial backing, etc.

Yep outside our NA bubble the world can be mighty different.

 

[Sasha Orlov]

Nah. Saying it goes against your religion, a religion which has came out and stated it's cool to support, is.

I don't think people understand Russia all that well.

Gurianov is a fringe NHLer at best. He might not get physically harmed, but he could be prevented from playing in the KHL and family members might lose their jobs, financial backing, etc.

Bolded applies directly to you as a result of what you said below lmfao

 

[Ozmodiar]

It's fine to be suspicious, but accidents and heart attacks happen. Gotta be careful not to come to any conclusion when we have so very little information.

accidents and heart attacks?
Where’s the euphemistic quotes?

Considering the long list of people to fall to Sudden Russian Death Syndrome, I don’t think they deserve the benefit of the doubt here.

 

[morhilane]

He's going to have a Torts-like breakdown sometime soon.

I don't blame him, the local journalists (especially the French speak ones) have been awful for a few years now. So many of them just ask the same stupid questions, often more than once as if they don't bother listening to what others are asking, and 99% of the time, they are just trying to create controversy.

And now the Franco ones are complaining MSL gives bigger answers in English then in French (since the English questions are usually better). They basically already started their campaign to run him out of town.

 

[Ozmodiar]

He's going to have a Torts-like breakdown sometime soon.

Who’s our version of Brooksie? lol

 

[David Suzuki]

You know people are entitled to have different opinions.

sure they are and i’m entitled to think of them what i want surely freedom is a two way street?

 

[Captain97]

I think it's all stupid, but the "religious reasons" is way worse than fearing an unpredictable, hateful, tyrannical government

Is it? We have religious freedom in the west and many religious say homosexuality is a sin? So you are telling people that they must act against their God. (BTW I'm not religious and am in favour of gay marriage from a governmental union pov)

Wear the pride jersey great, don't wear the pride jersey great. Why is it an issue if someone's religious beliefs disagree with your view of the world.

On top of that the pride flag has become a political symbol of a movement that has many different beliefs. If you had asked me to wear a pride item 10 years ago I'd have had no issues but if you asked me to wear it today I'd have to think because of how political parts of the movement have become. And some of the groups it now represents/has represented over the past 10 years.

 

[David Suzuki]

I think it's all stupid, but the "religious reasons" is way worse than fearing an unpredictable, hateful, tyrannical government

sure i’m very cynical that any of them truly fear anything tho

 

[Rapala]

Yep outside our NA bubble the world can be mighty different.

I say that about my Canadian bubble and your American one.

 

[SwiftyHab]

Well.. only 3 more games to go. I just hope to be entertained.

I find it hard to be entertained when the only thing left to root for are the kids who are now being pulled out of the lineup.

 

[Rapala]

Who’s our version of Brooksie? lol

We'd need two candidates one for each language.

 

[WeThreeKings]

Is it? We have religious freedom in the west and many religious say homosexuality is a sin? So you are telling people that they must act against their God. (BTW I'm not religious and am in favour of gay marriage from a governmental union pov)

Wear the pride jersey great, don't wear the pride jersey great. Why is it an issue if someone's religious beliefs disagree with your view of the world.

On top of that the pride flag has become a political symbol of a movement that has many different beliefs. If you had asked me to wear a pride item 10 years ago I'd have had no issues but if you asked me to wear it today I'd have to think because of how political parts of the movement have become. And some of the groups it now represents/has represented over the past 10 years.

Well, Religious Freedom of beliefs do not take precedent over gender identity, sexual orientation, etc.

For example, when I worked at the Municipality in Halifax, certain religious groups couldn't show skin in front of a male.. but we would have people working the swim lanes that were trans. So what do you do in that case? Well, since a trans person is who they identify as, they are female and we would not pull them from working there, that shift etc.

Frankly, any person who's religion has tenants in it that actively discriminate against another human being, for who they are, should probably take a good long thoughtful look on whether they would want to worship a god that would prescribe such a thing.. but hey, that's easy for me to say as an Agnostic and doesn't believe in 'the word of god' written by a bunch of dudes thousands of years ago that is unable to reference a large quantity of the earth's history that had other living creatures (e.g. Dinosaurs) ruling the earth.

 

[Captain97]

Well, Religious Freedom of beliefs do not take precedent over gender identity, sexual orientation, etc.

For example, when I worked at the Municipality in Halifax, certain religious groups couldn't show skin in front of a male.. but we would have people working the swim lanes that were trans. So what do you do in that case? Well, since a trans person is who they identify as, they are female and we would not pull them from working there, that shift etc.

Frankly, any person who's religion has tenants in it that actively discriminate against another human being, for who they are, should probably take a good long thoughtful look on whether they would want to worship a god that would prescribe such a thing.. but hey, that's easy for me to say as an Agnostic and doesn't believe in 'the word of god' written by a bunch of dudes thousands of years ago that is unable to reference a large quantity of the earth's history that had other living creatures (e.g. Dinosaurs) ruling the earth.

Actually legally it is one of our most fundamental human rights. The freedom to worship any religion of your choice is extremely important.

I'm going to assume the religion you are describing in your example is Islam or something with similar requirements to it.

The answer is since you are a government facility you need to provide them with non trans female swim lane workers. If you are willing to provide them with a female only staff then you are already discriminating based on sex at a reasonable level for religous accommodations why is it any difference to then discriminate based on gender identity in this case if you are willing to discriminate against one group for religious grounds why not the other.

 

[MXD]

MSL is way over his head...club look absolute shit with 0 strategy.

That's exactly what someone with zero knowledge of hockey would write.

 

[WeThreeKings]

Actually legally it is one of our most fundamental human rights. The freedom to worship any religion of your choice is extremely important.

I'm going to assume the religion you are describing in your example is Islam or something with similar requirements to it.

The answer is since you are a government facility you need to provide them with non trans female swim lane workers. If you are willing to provide them with a female only staff then you are already discriminating based on sex at a reasonable level for religous accommodations why is it any difference to then discriminate based on gender identity in this case if you are willing to discriminate against one group for religious grounds why not the other.

We actually didn't need to provide them with non trans because they are female. Trans female or female, they are female, and if they had an issue with that still - they can swim somewhere else.

Religion is a protected class but often times it comes in to conflict with other human rights, as it did in this case, in that situation, who a person is takes precedent over what religion someone chooses to worship.

 

[MXD]

... Play Farrell, scratch Gurianov. Problem solved.