DarrylshutzSydor
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the look on Gregor's face shows he thinks he won't be in the nhl next season
You know Ostapchuk is 21 years old and averaging less than 10 minutes a game right? He's only been playing in the NHL this season because the pre-deadline Sens and post-deadline Sharks both have a severe lack of forward depth.Sure, but let's look at his stats:
Takeways per 60 - 0
Hits per 60 - 6.55 (Funnily enough less than Kovalenko who "if he isn't scoring isn't doing anything"). Also less than Zetterlund, Cardwell, Duehr.
Minor penalties taken per 60 - 2.18 (only behind Gregor and Carlsson).
His one good stat - blocked shots.
So, we have a 6'4" 215 pound guy that skates around the ice well and that's about it. Cool.
Apparently he does...How exactly does Zetterlund help a team win when he isn't scoring? Does he kill penalties? Win faceoffs? Throw big hits? Drop the gloves? Kill plays defensively at even strength?
It wasn’t worth it. The deal was stupid then and it’s still stupid now. Sure Zetts isn’t scoring for them, but he’s a much better player than oh-chit-phuck!My only problem is when we have to hear how good Mario Ferraro actually is despite him being a fundamentally flawed Dman. Look at the PP goal - what is he doing? He's not trying to clear the screen. He's not tying up the player to prevent the tip or potential rebound. He just screened his own goalie.
I still don't like the Zetterlund deal. Ostapchuk is not going to be anything, so ultimately they upgraded a 4th to a 2nd for a young third line winger. I don't think that was worth it.
Thank god I didn't use per 60 stats at all...You know Ostapchuk is 21 years old and averaging less than 10 minutes a game right? He's only been playing in the NHL this season because the pre-deadline Sens and post-deadline Sharks both have a severe lack of forward depth.
Pretending any of his NHL stats from this season are meaningful is idiotic. He should have been in the AHL all year although the fact two coaches have trusted him enough to even use him in a limited role is a good sign in and of itself.Thank god I didn't use per 60 stats at all...
Apparently he does...
But, there's no place for this discussion here. My point was never about him but Ostapchuk. I didn't even mention him.
I will say, it's nice to say I know you well enough to know that would be the one specific thing you pointed out.Damn, not one but TWO hits??? Garbage Tier Grier is such a buffoon for not immediately agreeing to Claude Lemieux's $25 million contract proposal.
How exactly does Zetterlund help a team win when he isn't scoring? Does he kill penalties? Win faceoffs? Throw big hits? Drop the gloves? Kill plays defensively at even strength?
Sens fans seem to see what they have in Zetts by that Twitter thread. He’s getting lots of praise for his effort and how he’s looked without watching his stats. Oh-chit-phuck is only noticeable when turning the puck over and when he screens his own goalie.Thank god I didn't use per 60 stats at all...
I couldn't find the sarcasm emoji on my phone but yes sarcasmGenuinely can't tell if you're being sarcastic or not.
Sens fans also thought Erik Karlsson was good defensively.Sens fans seem to see what they have in Zetts by that Twitter thread. He’s getting lots of praise for his effort and how he’s looked without watching his stats. Oh-chit-phuck is only noticeable when turning the puck over and when he screens his own goalie.
Apparently he does...
But, there's no place for this discussion here. My point was never about him but Ostapchuk. I didn't even mention him.
What's funny is no one really knows what the contract demands were.I was a vocal critic of Zetterlund and do agree that he functioned in San Jose, never worth 5 million on a long term contract ( I know you didnt say he was), but the return of Ostapchuk. He belongs in the AHL, or ECHL.
Lol what a joke. He's already proven to be a good AHL player. There will always be a place in the NHL for a big physical center who can drop the gloves even if it's as a 4C or extra forward. Zetterlund was not gonna fetch more than this if we waited until the offseason to trade him without a contract in place.I was a vocal critic of Zetterlund and do agree that he functioned in San Jose, never worth 5 million on a long term contract ( I know you didnt say he was), but the return of Ostapchuk. He belongs in the AHL, or ECHL.
He does have three awards for “best” defenceman in the leagueSens fans also thought Erik Karlsson was good defensively.
Stop creating a strawman.People losing their shit over Ostapchuk and glazing Zetterlund is just wildly tone deaf nonsense.
After Zetterlund's first 20 games with the Sharks, people around here said he was a career fourth liner and that we maybe shouldn't even qualify him. Are we seriously doing the same thing with Ostapchuk, who is three years younger and playing 10 minutes a night with Barclay Goodrow and Noah Gregor? Seriously, just let him get settled this summer and see how he looks in the fall.
You also thought Jesse Puljujarvii was a future Selke Candidate. No one's perfect.Sens fans also thought Erik Karlsson was good defensively.