Post-Game Talk: GAME 74 - Eight Losses in a row - Detroit 2 BRUINS 1

Oh I totally think Sweeney can make this team a contender.

All he has to do is inherit a HOF multi-time Selke C who also has offensive ability, a top tier 2C, a borderline HOF winger, a HOF #1D and a Vezina winning goalie.

Give him that and I think he can get passed the first round a couple times!
Theo inherited Pedro, Manny, Damon, Varitek, Lowe etc

Belichick inherited Law, Bruscci, Brown, McGinest, Vinatieri

It’s a nice try but how it works
 
I was in attendance last night. The Bruins are a shadow of their former self from 2+ years ago. Pasta has so little help. He was double teamed all night.

Lysell had flashes and I really wish he would have scored on that breakaway. Overall, he seems to be not strong enough to win battles.

Mittlestadt also shows flashes. He got caught on the ice when he should’ve changed. Good for a 3rd line centre - not good enough for line 2.

Zadorov is a beast poses problems for opponents when he is near. They fear him. A great signing. Needs to be properly used in the lineup.

Swayman. Goal 1 was weak. The rest of the game he was good.

That lineup will be vastly different next year.
Vastly improved as well.
 
Theo inherited Pedro, Manny, Damon, Varitek, Lowe etc

Belichick inherited Law, Bruscci, Brown, McGinest, Vinatieri

It’s a nice try but how it works

Yes and the major difference is Theo and Belichick added around those players they inherited to win multiple championships.


That’s a MASSIVE distinction
 
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Theo inherited Pedro, Manny, Damon, Varitek, Lowe etc

Belichick inherited Law, Bruscci, Brown, McGinest, Vinatieri

It’s a nice try but how it works
Hmmm what's different about those comparisons:

1) Neither Theo nor Bill's predecessor's won a title. Instead they were the first ones to win a title. Donnie has the opposite. He inherited a team that won a cup and went to a finals. He hasn't won a cup. Nice try, "but how it works".
2) I noticed a player not on your list of players Bill inherited... a Tom Somebody. He also drafted Light, Seymour, Gronk, Wilfork, Edelman, Mayo, Branch, Gostkowski, Neal, Mankins, Ty Warren, Malcom Butler(undrafted college free agent), Andrews, Slater and others. He signed as UFAs Brian Cox, Bobby Hamilton, Randy Moss, Mike Vrabel, Roosevelt Colvin, Wes Welker, Revis, Gilmour and others. He won 6 titles. at least 3 of which had rosters with zero of players he inherited.

You can get back to me when Don wins 3 titles with a post-Bergeron roster.
 
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Donnie and his fans are like the protagonist in the Doobie Brothers "What a Fool Believes" who looks fondly back at a relationship he had with a woman, when in fact they never had a relationship.
never saw the Doobie Brothers - had a chance in 1980 at Boston Garden but had a test and blew the concert off

Bad mistake
 
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Oh I totally think Sweeney can make this team a contender.

All he has to do is inherit a HOF multi-time Selke C who also has offensive ability, a top tier 2C, a borderline HOF winger, a HOF #1D and a Vezina winning goalie.

Give him that and I think he can get passed the first round a couple times!
You forgot about a young prolific goal scoring future HOF.
 
I went to the Bruins season ticket draft party at Legends in 2017 and thought they take a C and Thomas was the guy as he was a London Knights 3 zone guy

Josh Norris was an American who was definitely in the picture there

18 Vaakanainen (made zero sense but so didn’t rumor they were taking Brannstrom _ (they just took 2015 Zboril, Carlo, Lauzon) and 2016 McAvoy & Lindgren

Thomas & Norris next

Also Kristian Vesalainen went 24 to Winnipeg

Big scoring winger i was super high on who busted

This is really my major draft screw up for Donny

It alters their time Line and hence ours who follow the Bruins

Thomas and Norris would both have had much different paths to the NHL if drafted by the Bruins. Both got to be top 6 players early for the Blues and Sens. Not sure how that would have affected either player. They may have turned out even better learning from Bergy and Krejci. Or not.

Anyway, I would say the biggest screw up was taking Senyshyn in 2015. The all-time "smartest guy in the room" move.
 
Good point. If Khus and Lysell don't produce it's not a nail in the coffin. But this is an opportunity that they are getting because the team is so bad. If the team was contending Lysell would be in Providence and Khus would be on MIN's 4th line.

SJ is a worse team than BOS but you can still see young guys who have stepped up and shown well and young guys who haven't. If Lysell and Khus don't see this as an opportunity and if they don't seize that opportunity, it's flat out not good. Not a final judgement in any way, but also not a step forward. If you aren't stepping up when you get an opporunity it's a lot easier to get passed over.

Maybe neither guy has what it takes to step up.
 
That's still gets under my skin, people thinking Sweeney had something to do with the Presidents cup team. David and Patrice saved his arse. Without them signing for peanuts, no way they would have been in the position they were in to go "all in" (which I give him credit for doing)

Doesn't matter anyway, these clowns are going to be the FO for at least the next 5 years. They sold Mr Burns on a re-tool.

And Sweeney had nothing to do with that?
 
Hmmm what's different about those comparisons:

1) Neither Theo nor Bill's predecessor's won a title. Instead they were the first ones to win a title. Donnie has the opposite. He inherited a team that won a cup and went to a finals. He hasn't won a cup. Nice try, "but how it works".
2) I noticed a player not on your list of players Bill inherited... a Tom Somebody. He also drafted Light, Seymour, Gronk, Wilfork, Edelman, Mayo, Branch, Gostkowski, Neal, Mankins, Ty Warren, Malcom Butler(undrafted college free agent), Andrews, Slater and others. He signed as UFAs Brian Cox, Bobby Hamilton, Randy Moss, Mike Vrabel, Roosevelt Colvin, Wes Welker, Revis, Gilmour and others. He won 6 titles. at least 3 of which had rosters with zero of players he inherited.

You can get back to me when Don wins 3 titles with a post-Bergeron roster.
You're so wrong it's not even funny!
 
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Theo inherited Pedro, Manny, Damon, Varitek, Lowe etc

Belichick inherited Law, Bruscci, Brown, McGinest, Vinatieri

It’s a nice try but how it works
Yes Belichek, kept replenishing, his roster and kept winning for twenty years, Sweeney, inherited solid team but added very little to upgrade and keep it going, he waited too long. Now he dead in the water.
 
So I guess there is really no value in seeing what the young guys can do.

Honestly, the only newcomer that has shown anything to me is Jokiharju.
There is absolutely value in seeing what they can do. I have been persuaded after my earlier post to not judge Lysell and others too harshly because they are struggling to play in an amorphous s-show environment.
 
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You really thought there should have been push back because Detroit's 5 foot 8 inch goal scorer beat up 6 foot 3 inch defenseman Andrew Peeke? Or because Lauko is stupid enough to drop the glove with a veteran fighter like Austin Watson just to get completely hammered?

No problem with DeBrincat going after Peeke, he had it coming. But I didn't like Watson targeting Lauko. Yeah he could have turned the fight down, but Jakub did the honorable if stupid thing and stepped up. But to me Watson should have picked on someone his own size rather than taking the easy route and there should have been accountability for that. The guy's a goose who's got history. Felt there was a missed opportunity for the team to make a bit of a statement about sticking up for each other. Frankly any sort of morale boost would be useful at present.
 

No problem with DeBrincat going after Peeke, he had it coming. But I didn't like Watson targeting Lauko. Yeah he could have turned the fight down, but Jakub did the honorable if stupid thing and stepped up. But to me Watson should have picked on someone his own size rather than taking the easy route and there should have been accountability for that. The guy's a goose who's got history. Felt there was a missed opportunity for the team to make a bit of a statement about sticking up for each other. Frankly any sort of morale boost would be useful at present.
I think they were all waiting for Sway to step up.:sarcasm:
 

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