Post-Game Talk: Game #72 -MOD 275- Game decided on questionable penalty to B's - Toronto 4 BRUINS 2 F

[Lobster57]

You shouldn't hope for anyone to feel bad, but I think they'll probably miss by 1 or 2 points, which except for last year is what usually happens. Since the lock out in 04/05 the Leafs have pretty much been mediocre at best, they made the playoffs once, but usually only miss by a few points (last season was by way more), but that's the first they finished last in over 30 years. Anyway I think your Bruins will be fine and make the playoffs (maybe only a wild card), but don't get too upset over this game and the Moore penalty was legitimate, just bad timing.

don't come on to other boards and tell posters there how to feel.

It's asinine

 

[Baddkarma]

Someone mentioned it earlier but the NHL refs looked like NBA refs last night. Bad calls, clearly "evening" things out for the Leafs when they could. I stayed up late to watch it and couldn't believe that Leafs won it like that.

And when did the Bruins start letting Bergy get run like that without a response? Sad...

 

[jgatie]

Give Leafs fans a break. Regardless of how obnoxious they are, deep down they still have to live with the fact they are the biggest hockey market in the world and their baseball team has won more championships in the last 50 years. That's like us seeing the Patriots go winless till 2067, and only seeing the Revolution win a few times in the interim.

 

[Gee Wally]

 

[Jean_Jacket41]

I don't know what is worse, Habs fans coming in here telling us about the 24 Cups won before most of them were in diapers, or Leafs fans coming in here giddy that they have a chance of making the post-season for the second time in over a decade and the first time since the embarrassment that was 2013. It's like the choice between a tired old dog in here passing gas, or a bounding puppy peeing on our floor.

No kidding.

As long as they both never win another championship, I can live with a regular season loss on an egregious call...

Hope to use 1967 and 1993 references for years!

 

[Aeroforce]

I wasn't able to watch the game; have it recorded but will likely just delete it.

So without seeing it, I am curious about a couple of things. I get where the conspiracy theories are coming from, but at the same time, the OT goal by Chicago in Toronto not only stood, it was deemed good in record time. Granted the Leafs already had their loser point. But I imagine if there was a conspiracy, that goal would have been disallowed. Leafs are also brutal in the shootout, so they may have figured just get it over with.

And while it sucks to lose a game on a questionable late penalty, is the Bruins' penalty kill slipping? If memory serves, it let them down in Edmonton as well.

 

[EverettMike]

I wasn't able to watch the game; have it recorded but will likely just delete it.

So without seeing it, I am curious about a couple of things. I get where the conspiracy theories are coming from, but at the same time, the OT goal by Chicago in Toronto not only stood, it was deemed good in record time. Granted the Leafs already had their loser point. But I imagine if there was a conspiracy, that goal would have been disallowed. Leafs are also brutal in the shootout, so they may have figured just get it over with.

And while it sucks to lose a game on a questionable late penalty, is the Bruins' penalty kill slipping? If memory serves, it let them down in Edmonton as well.

There's no ****ing conspiracy. Just a bad night for the officials. **** happens.

 

[sirmaxalot]

There's no ****ing conspiracy. Just a bad night for the officials. **** happens.

Who got to you?!?!?!

Also, the Earth is flat, have proof.

 

[Fenway]

We have seen the Toronto video of the disputed penalty numerous times.

Here is Jack's call on NESN

 

[McMatthews]

That Moore penalty was BS. The refs dictated the end of the game.

Almost as bad as the flagrant foul call on Vanderbilt.

Regardless, that was a playoff game.

 

[BruinLVGA]

The NBA used to claim no bias, no favoritism, until it was revealed the officials were informally told to milk out playoff series to 7 games for the TV income, and to give favoritism to the big names that sell jerseys and put eyes in front of the tube. That is no "conspiracy", just plain old economics. There is no doubt in my mind the fact the NHL would love the Leafs in the playoffs plays in the backs of the officials minds. You can call it a "tough break", we call it "NHL preferred outcome magically happens due to a bad call."

We've seen far too many phantom calls against in the last minutes when up a goal on the Habs (*cough* Game 7 2011 *cough*) to believe anything else.

It's totally true and unfortunately it is rather widespread in pro sports, world wide.

I am still as mad as an adder for what the refs did last night. Completely unacceptable.

 

[Fenway]

That Moore penalty was BS. The refs dictated the end of the game.

I am glad the NESN video finally surfaced courtesy of dafoomie.

Bruins fans are hearing our announcers questioning the penalty and that thought lingers with our fanbase.

 

[caz16]

I wasn't able to watch the game; have it recorded but will likely just delete it.

So without seeing it, I am curious about a couple of things. I get where the conspiracy theories are coming from, but at the same time, the OT goal by Chicago in Toronto not only stood, it was deemed good in record time. Granted the Leafs already had their loser point. But I imagine if there was a conspiracy, that goal would have been disallowed. Leafs are also brutal in the shootout, so they may have figured just get it over with.

And while it sucks to lose a game on a questionable late penalty, is the Bruins' penalty kill slipping? If memory serves, it let them down in Edmonton as well.

They killed a 5-on-3 against the best PP in the league....Edmonton is 5th on the PP...

 

[Chief Nine]

We have seen the Toronto video of the disputed penalty numerous times.

Here is Jack's call on NESN

Makes me even angrier watching it again. It looks like the Leaf defenseman thought he was getting the call against him. He skated into Moore and went down a bit too easy then threw his arms up like "who me?". Best to let that go in a game like that at that time of a tie game. Poor call either way.

 

[sirmaxalot]

I am glad the NESN video finally surfaced courtesy of dafoomie.

Bruins fans are hearing our announcers questioning the penalty and that thought lingers with our fanbase.

I was watching on TSN in Toronto and Ferraro and company also noted it was a very suspect/weak call. I was pretty shocked that even TO media said something.

 

[JumboJoe19]

was at the game and even the leaf fans knew it was a brutal call. Listening to Toronto talk radio and they admit that the leafs were lucky to get the 2 points and the refs were horrible. soshnikovs hit on Bergeron should have been a major penalty and that call on Moore with 2 minutes left was an absolute joke after the ref seemingly put the whistles away.

big game tonight , hopefully we can get a win and move on and forget about the leafs game.

 

[missingchicklet]

Makes me even angrier watching it again. It looks like the Leaf defenseman thought he was getting the call against him. He skated into Moore and went down a bit too easy then threw his arms up like "who me?". Best to let that go in a game like that at that time of a tie game. Poor call either way.

Yep. Shouldn't have been a call either way. That call was especially bad when put into the context of two things. First, the refs were letting both teams play the majority of the game. To call something like that late in the game is suspect at best given how the game had been called up to that point. Second, while the Bs did get some leeway on several things, the Leafs got far more leeway. The refs refused to call a whole lot of holding and interference on the Leafs. All of that holding and interference can really add up when it comes to gaining puck possession and thwarting the opposing team's offensive flow. It was clearly one-sided in favor of Toronto. So, given those two things, the call on Moore was absolutely atrocious. I don't buy at all the idea that the refs simply had a bad game. A bad game doesn't result in extremely lopsided calls/non-calls in favor of one team.

And I didn't even touch upon the hit on Bergy. If Colin Miller or McQuaid made that same hit on Matthews and Matthews got up and challenged either player, it is 100% guaranteed that the Leafs would have gone on the PP and the Bs player would have been tossed for the game. There is no question about that. Who knows who would have won had the reffing been on the up and up. Neither team played particularly great and both goalies played quite well. All I know is that the reffing was a pile of garage and it definitely figured heavily into he outcome.

 

[Chief Nine]

Yep. Shouldn't have been a call either way. That call was especially bad when put into the context of two things. First, the refs were letting both teams play the majority of the game. To call something like that late in the game is suspect at best given how the game had been called up to that point. Second, while the Bs did get some leeway on several things, the Leafs got far more leeway. The refs refused to call a whole lot of holding and interference on the Leafs. All of that holding and interference can really add up when it comes to gaining puck possession and thwarting the opposing team's offensive flow. It was clearly one-sided in favor of Toronto. So, given those two things, the call on Moore was absolutely atrocious. I don't buy at all the idea that the refs simply had a bad game. A bad game doesn't result in extremely lopsided calls/non-calls in favor of one team.

And I didn't even touch upon the hit on Bergy. If Colin Miller or McQuaid made that same hit on Matthews and Matthews got up and challenged either player, it is 100% guaranteed that the Leafs would have gone on the PP and the Bs player would have been tossed for the game. There is no question about that. Who knows who would have won had the reffing been on the up and up. Neither team played particularly great and both goalies played quite well. All I know is that the reffing was a pile of garage and it definitely figured heavily into he outcome.

In fact when they made the call on Moore I did think it was going against Toronto. I thought maybe it was going to be interference which we all know is a Babcock staple. And the Bergeron non-call was atrocious! He's in the box bleeding from his nose and the guy got 2 minutes. Disgusting.

 

[Neely08]

It was the epitome of a hometown call, as were some other non-calls that should have been made for the B's. What is it everyone says a/b playing the habs? Hypocrisy thy name is Toronto. Apparently they get to have their hands held all b/c they were rolled in game 7. That humiliation will last decades.

That dirty hit on Bergeron was infuriating. Can't wait to see laff fan reactions when Chara goes full Gregor Clegane on one of their top players.

"And this week in leafs news... Auston Mathews is peeing standing up again just like a big boy!"

 

[TaroTsujimoto]

What about Bergeron almost taking Andersen's head off with his errant stick?

 

[Neely08]

What about Bergeron almost taking Andersen's head off with his errant stick?

Yes, his whole career must have flashed through his eyes. Terrible. I'm going to light a candle.

 

[Glove Malfunction]

What about Bergeron almost taking Andersen's head off with his errant stick?

I believe the key word here is "almost".

 

[Ladyfan]

It was the epitome of a hometown call, as were some other non-calls that should have been made for the B's. What is it everyone says a/b playing the habs? Hypocrisy thy name is Toronto. Apparently they get to have their hands held all b/c they were rolled in game 7. That humiliation will last decades.

That dirty hit on Bergeron was infuriating. Can't wait to see laff fan reactions when Chara goes full Gregor Clegane on one of their top players.

"And this week in leafs news... Auston Mathews is peeing standing up again just like a big boy!"

VERY nice to see you posting. I miss you.

How's things?

 

[Bruinaura]

I suppose if Soshnikov was going to hear from DoPS, they would have said so by now.

That hit was handled wrong on so many levels. Shouldn't have happened in the first place. Should have been more than two minutes. Should have been a power play for the Bruins. Teammate (s) should have immediately pounced on Soshnikov. Concussion spotters should have pulled Bergeron for testing. There should be a hearing for Soshnikov.

At least most of us on this board still love Bergeron!

 

[Gordoff]

I look at it as blatant cheating. Bergeron non call getting plowed from behind.Was way worse then Elbow Tkachuk was suspended for.Could have broke His neck.Whistle on Martin skate blade with Bruins pressing .A 5 on 3.And then that call late You cannot feed a team a win any better

THIS is what makes last night so disgusting. I'm afraid that this **** will happen tonight vs. Ottawa even if they're playing in Boston. Afterall having the Sens AND the Laffs in the playoffs (not to mention the Oil, Scabs, Flame )will make Canadian fans froth at the ******** in delight.

Did they? I shut it off after the Leafs made it 3-1.

But I still stand by my comment that No-goal Acciari has no business in the NHL. One decent game doesn't make him anything close to an NHL player.

He hits like a truck, when he hits.....lol
I will say though that I prefer him slightly to Hayes.

You shouldn't hope for anyone to feel bad, but I think they'll probably miss by 1 or 2 points, which except for last year is what usually happens. Since the lock out in 04/05 the Leafs have pretty much been mediocre at best, they made the playoffs once, but usually only miss by a few points (last season was by way more), but that's the first they finished last in over 30 years. Anyway I think your Bruins will be fine and make the playoffs (maybe only a wild card), but don't get too upset over this game and the Moore penalty was legitimate, just bad timing.

Oh thank God we have you here to tell us how to feel and put it into some kind of
nonsensical perspective for us. Afterall, Boston teams have won how many championships in the last 50 years vs all of Canada.

Someone mentioned it earlier but the NHL refs looked like NBA refs last night. Bad calls, clearly "evening" things out for the Leafs when they could. I stayed up late to watch it and couldn't believe that Leafs won it like that.
And when did the Bruins start letting Bergy get run like that without a response? Sad...

THIS bothered me almost as much as the officiating. They've been over disciplined (by Julien) to the point that they are still scared of reacting in an honest way even after all of the time that CJ's been gone. I'm pretty sure that the players on the ice didn't want to blow the upcoming powerplay that they rightfully expected to be upcoming. IF McQuaid were on the ice I'm sure that things would've gone on in more of a "natural" way.

was at the game and even the leaf fans knew it was a brutal call. Listening to Toronto talk radio and they admit that the leafs were lucky to get the 2 points and the refs were horrible. soshnikovs hit on Bergeron should have been a major penalty and that call on Moore with 2 minutes left was an absolute joke after the ref seemingly put the whistles away.

big game tonight , hopefully we can get a win and move on and forget about the leafs game.

Hopefully yes...

Yep. Shouldn't have been a call either way. That call was especially bad when put into the context of two things. First, the refs were letting both teams play the majority of the game. To call something like that late in the game is suspect at best given how the game had been called up to that point. Second, while the Bs did get some leeway on several things, the Leafs got far more leeway. The refs refused to call a whole lot of holding and interference on the Leafs. All of that holding and interference can really add up when it comes to gaining puck possession and thwarting the opposing team's offensive flow. It was clearly one-sided in favor of Toronto. So, given those two things, the call on Moore was absolutely atrocious. I don't buy at all the idea that the refs simply had a bad game. A bad game doesn't result in extremely lopsided calls/non-calls in favor of one team.

And I didn't even touch upon the hit on Bergy. If Colin Miller or McQuaid made that same hit on Matthews and Matthews got up and challenged either player, it is 100% guaranteed that the Leafs would have gone on the PP and the Bs player would have been tossed for the game. There is no question about that. Who knows who would have won had the reffing been on the up and up. Neither team played particularly great and both goalies played quite well. All I know is that the reffing was a pile of garbage and it definitely figured heavily into he outcome.

Thanks for putting my thoughts into words!

In fact when they made the call on Moore I did think it was going against Toronto. I thought maybe it was going to be interference which we all know is a Babcock staple. And the Bergeron non-call was atrocious! He's in the box bleeding from his nose and the guy got 2 minutes. Disgusting.

QFT!

What about Bergeron almost taking Andersen's head off with his errant stick?

What are you doing here???