Post-Game Talk: Game #72 -MOD 275- Game decided on questionable penalty to B's - Toronto 4 BRUINS 2 F

Greek_physique

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The officiating is the officiating.

If you're a better team than Toronto, be up a goal or two by the time the questionable call gets made.

If they slip to WC 2, they have almost no shot at advancing, so they'd better not have the tails between the legs.


If the play Washington...no chance...and to some extent Pittsburgh too, but we still have the Rask/Bergeron factor against Sid.

Columbus/NYR don't really scare me.
 

Bruinaura

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My guess is angry. Very angry.

I watched the replay. Miller should have gone berserk on the guy. Wish McQuaid had been there instead.

In the background you can see Rask immediately waving to the bench for the trainer after the hit, but then when he sees Bergeron going after the guy, he stands by the net like "I'm just gonna watch Bergy try to tear your head off." (Not saying Rask should have fought anyone, just thought it was kind of funny.)

I don't know where the concussion spotters were, but IMO they should have pulled him for testing. Like they should have pulled Corey Crawford after taking a Shea Weber rocket off the mask
 

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I watched the replay. Miller should have gone berserk on the guy. Wish McQuaid had been there instead.

In the background you can see Rask immediately waving to the bench for the trainer after the hit, but then when he sees Bergeron going after the guy, he stands by the net like "I'm just gonna watch Bergy try to tear your head off."

I don't know where the concussion spotters were, but IMO they should have pulled him for testing. Like they should have pulled Corey Crawford after taking a Shea Weber rocket off the mask

Ditto. Plus, I know it was 1-1 for most of the game, but I would have sent Beleskey after that puke. No Thornton on Orpik, just square up, make him fight, and feed him his lunch. Take the 2-5-10. Beleskey was useless anyway, and with two guys the same size and in that circumstances, maybe the refs don't call the 2-5-10.
 

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The officiating is the officiating.

If you're a better team than Toronto, be up a goal or two by the time the questionable call gets made.

If they slip to WC 2, they have almost no shot at advancing, so they'd better not have the tails between the legs.

Yeah I agree officiating sucked ,but personally I didn't think the Bruins played a very good game ,very little sustained pressure on the Leafs in there own end ,Forth line probably gave the Leafs the most problems unfortunately they couldn't score in an empty net.Really thought Cassidy should have shortened up the bench last night,maybe mored Pasta up to first line something.Not sure if he was thinking about tonight's game and didn't want to tire people out,I think mistake in n his part last night was a crucial game more so than Ottawa needed to keep Leafs 5 back.
 

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I watched the replay. Miller should have gone berserk on the guy. Wish McQuaid had been there instead.

In the background you can see Rask immediately waving to the bench for the trainer after the hit, but then when he sees Bergeron going after the guy, he stands by the net like "I'm just gonna watch Bergy try to tear your head off." (Not saying Rask should have fought anyone, just thought it was kind of funny.)

I don't know where the concussion spotters were, but IMO they should have pulled him for testing. Like they should have pulled Corey Crawford after taking a Shea Weber rocket off the mask

Agree Millar should have gone after the puke,fawk the outcome of the game at that point,have to stick up,for your teammates.
 

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I am pretty sure if you went through my entire history of posts, you would likely not find a single one complaining about officiating. I have always felt that over the course of a game things even out.

Not last night. I am very pissed off at the garbage officiating. I did not go through this entire thread, only the first few pages.

No one seemed mentioned the other blatant act of stupidity in the first 3 pages. Blowing the whistle when Matt Martin lost his blade and we had the puck in their zone!! How friggin dumb are these clowns? Even if he was hurt - they are not suppose to blow the whistle until they have possession!

I sure hope this team is capable of a victory tonight in spite of the trash that was thrown their way last night. The only positive is that Ottawa is securely in a playoff spot and don't need this game to help justify the 12 billion dollar TV contract Rogers has. The refs could actually let the teams decide this game on their own. Problem is Ottawa is a better team than Toronto.

I am not sure I can stand watching the game tonight. I came very close to throwing objects at my TV. My wife looked at me with that "your not going to throw that are you?" look on her face.

It's only a game...
It's only a game...
It's only a game...
 

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As a leaf fan that game had me on the edge of my seat. Very entertaining and I actually thought the refs missed a lot of calls against the B's throughout the 3rd period. It seems they were letting them play which is fine. On the last call I thought the leafs got the penalty for some reason and I was confused as to why they would call something with 3 minutes left when they let 10 penalties go in the previous 18 minutes. When I found out that Boston got the call, I was happier, but also thought "you can't call that at this time". Tough break, but definitely not a conspiracy to get Toronto into the playoffs.

entertaining? Sorry, we watched a different game, I found it to be a systemic bore fest and nope, not saying that because the B`s lost

In a period where it seemed the refs were going to let the players decide the outcome, to call a penalty on a play like that is inexcusable.
 

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I must have counted at least half a dozen times that a Leaf player took one hand of his stick to hold onto a Bruin and not one penalty for it.I thought that was an automatic penalty,obviously not for the Leafs I guess.I watched there game against the Hawks and they got no penalties that game either.
 

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So, I missed the game (Puking kid, super fun), but from all accounts here it sounds as though it was a case of horrendous officiating that was the main culprit for the L??
 

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So, I missed the game (Puking kid, super fun), but from all accounts here it sounds as though it was a case of horrendous officiating that was the main culprit for the L??

I wouldn't say that. Officiating sucked and had a real impact on the game, but the Bs didn't generate enough scoring chances, and the 2nd line seemed invisible (to me at least) most of the night.

Played well enough to win, but not well enough that they can just lay this at the feet of the refs.
 

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I think it's poor form to blame this on the refs.

Moore's penalty was deserved, and the Bruins got away with lots of infractions too.
 

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So, I missed the game (Puking kid, super fun), but from all accounts here it sounds as though it was a case of horrendous officiating that was the main culprit for the L??

They did only score 1 goal sp they are to blame for that, but both Toronto goals came from help from the officials. 4 on 4 instead of a Bruins PP and a soft call late after an entire game of letting everything go.
 

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I have never had the inclination to go on another teams forum and make posts,guess it's the difference of being a Bruin fan and a Leafs fan.Think I actually hate the Leafs more than Montreal,at least Montreal fans have something to brag about.
 

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I mean, Toronto's first goal came at 4-on-4, which everyone agrees it should have been for 2 minutes. So even though the Bs should have had a 3 minute power play after that, the refs didn't really affect that goal based on when it took place.
 

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I think it's poor form to blame this on the refs.

Moore's penalty was deserved, and the Bruins got away with lots of infractions too.

Correct me if im wrong, but I don't think people are arguing whether Moore did anything wrong, but rather the fact that the refs let most of those go the entire game.

The lack of consistency is where I have an issue, especially with 2 minutes left in a playoff type game.
 

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I have never had the inclination to go on another teams forum and make posts,guess it's the difference of being a Bruin fan and a Leafs fan.Think I actually hate the Leafs more than Montreal,at least Montreal fans have something to brag about.

I have posted in other teams forum`s but never as a way to get under the skin. I think I asked fans in St Louis their honest opinion of Shattenkirk as his name has been bounced around here quite a while.

I read many opponents boards because it`s often fun to do and what it really shows is that Bruin fans are the only one`s to overreact when things are going well or poorly
 

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The NBA used to claim no bias, no favoritism, until it was revealed the officials were informally told to milk out playoff series to 7 games for the TV income, and to give favoritism to the big names that sell jerseys and put eyes in front of the tube. That is no "conspiracy", just plain old economics. There is no doubt in my mind the fact the NHL would love the Leafs in the playoffs plays in the backs of the officials minds. You can call it a "tough break", we call it "NHL preferred outcome magically happens due to a bad call."

We've seen far too many phantom calls against in the last minutes when up a goal on the Habs (*cough* Game 7 2011 *cough*) to believe anything else.

I agree the call was bad and I agree the league benefits if the Leafs make the playoffs from a revenue perspective. I also believe that Leaf fans are loyal and the league would benefit from having a smaller market team in the playoffs over them as well (from an interest stand point).

I have watched the Leafs end up on the wrong side of the officiating too many times this year to believe we are being gifted a playoff spot. But I won't tell you that you are wrong as these are both just our opinions.
 

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ps. it was a penalty on moore. he cleared space doing it and if they could have got a pass to him he would have been all alone.

I just watched the situation again - Maybe.
But you can also argue that it should be a penalty on Martin, who comes up and crosschecks Moore so he falls over right before the whistle is blown.
If Bergeron gets a retaliation for what he did, so should Martin.

The reffs took the penalties they saw fit all game long.

Why did they for example penalize Chara and Martin for roughing so it became a 4v4 but not when Marchand and Bergeron where tussling with 2 leafs players in an identical incident earlier?

It makes absolutely no sense and theres only 2 options: The refs are absolutely terrible, Or, they have an agenda.
 

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entertaining? Sorry, we watched a different game, I found it to be a systemic bore fest and nope, not saying that because the B`s lost

In a period where it seemed the refs were going to let the players decide the outcome, to call a penalty on a play like that is inexcusable.

Maybe entertaining from the standpoint that us leaf fans haven't had too many meaningful games over the past few (12) years that this close game was nail-biting. I agree the call was difficult given the circumstances.
 

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Correct me if im wrong, but I don't think people are arguing whether Moore did anything wrong, but rather the fact that the refs let most of those go the entire game.

The lack of consistency is where I have an issue, especially with 2 minutes left in a playoff type game.

I have a hunch that this is exactly everyone's problem on here. Imagine being the players playing through the entire game a certain way and then at the very end they decide something being done all game is no longer allowed. Just can't do that. Not with major playoff implications on the line.
 

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entertaining? Sorry, we watched a different game, I found it to be a systemic bore fest and nope, not saying that because the B`s lost

Same old clutch-and-Babcock we used to see from the Chicken-Wings. Interfere, grab sticks, get in lanes, instigate then turn-the-other-cheek, "who me?" holier-than-thou hockey those Wings teams were famous for. Just boring hockey.
 
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Bruinfanatic

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Same old clutch-and-Babcock we used to see from the Chicken-Wings. Interfere, grab sticks, get in lanes, instigate then turn-the-other-cheek, "who me?" holier-than-though hockey those Wings teams were famous for. Just boring hockey.

Exactly right ,but how do his teams constantly get away with it is my question.
 

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I wouldn't say that. Officiating sucked and had a real impact on the game, but the Bs didn't generate enough scoring chances, and the 2nd line seemed invisible (to me at least) most of the night.

Played well enough to win, but not well enough that they can just lay this at the feet of the refs.

This plus the third line was really bad as well
 

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