GDT: Game 72: Columbus at Calgary | 3/21 4PM EDT

EspenK

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Absolutely NOT a fluke :yo:

No it was well orchestrated. From the goofy pass/bounce to his backhand that bounced off the goalie and trickled in. Definitely an offensive gem.:sarcasm:

Good effort by Arty but c'mon.
 

Robert

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Great win... but...

Deja Vu.... We will be drafting 8th again if they keep winning...

Am I harping on the draft position of the Blue Jackets??? Yep, the best draft in a decade and the CBJ decide to win when it doesn't matter.. ugh.
 

CBJWerenski8

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Great win... but...

Deja Vu.... We will be drafting 8th again if they keep winning...

Am I harping on the draft position of the Blue Jackets??? Yep, the best draft in a decade and the CBJ decide to win when it doesn't matter.. ugh.

Unless they win from here on out we'll be picking 6th or 7th. Just like we were a week ago
 

Sore Loser

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Originally Posted by Robert
Great win... but...

Deja Vu.... We will be drafting 8th again if they keep winning...

Am I harping on the draft position of the Blue Jackets??? Yep, the best draft in a decade and the CBJ decide to win when it doesn't matter.. ugh.

Aren't you a Sabres fan also? If you're so into tanking, why don't you go jeer for them?

The Jackets will be fine without a #1 overall pick. Would a higher pick help? Sure ... but do any of us want to watch this team loaf through the rest of the season and risk having that carry over to next year? I don't think so. This is a competitive group, and it should stay that way - regardless of where they wind up picking.
 

Cash for Nash

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Aren't you a Sabres fan also? If you're so into tanking, why don't you go jeer for them?

The Jackets will be fine without a #1 overall pick. Would a higher pick help? Sure ... but do any of us want to watch this team loaf through the rest of the season and risk having that carry over to next year? I don't think so. This is a competitive group, and it should stay that way - regardless of where they wind up picking.[/QUOTE

Honestly I'd prefer to see them loaf and secure a top talent that could impact them next year. But if they are going to play some competitive hockey down the stretch I'd prefer the at least did it at home where I'm paying money to see the product. I'm too lazy to look it up but I wonder what their home record is if you took out the December homestand. A pretty solid road record this year would probably be enough if they didn't look like an echl team at nwa.
 

Robert

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Aren't you a Sabres fan also? If you're so into tanking, why don't you go jeer for them?

The Jackets will be fine without a #1 overall pick. Would a higher pick help? Sure ... but do any of us want to watch this team loaf through the rest of the season and risk having that carry over to next year? I don't think so. This is a competitive group, and it should stay that way - regardless of where they wind up picking.

I'm a fan of many including the Buckeyes... but I also was around in Columbus to help the CBJ get off the ground in1997 in an effort to get an NHL team in Columbus... This is not a time to win games, not when you're in the bottom six with the best draft in a decade... I've seen this winning when it doesn't count too many times...
 

niflheim

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Mysterious are the ways of God

I don't mean :laugh:

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but unless Provorov is 9 and Werenski is 10 I am ok with our winning streak. Our team is too young and has much pride. We can excuse them :sarcasm: this unpredictability :laugh:
 

niflheim

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The day the Jackets start "loafing" or tanking just to get a better pick is the day I stop being a fan.

:thumbu: I like our team, but I can't explain my love :) ( probably team has little part of russian mentality as Otto von Bismarck once said “the russians are slow to saddle up, but ride fast.â€:sarcasm: I mean usual beginning of every season :laugh:)
 

WannabeFinn

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The winning streak really isn't gonna hurt us, so just enjoy the wins and hockey while we have it :)

we're ~10 points from falling out of the top 10 and only have 10 games left.. we're basically a lock for Werenski/Provorov
 

Double-Shift Lasse

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I love how "OMG we suck season's over break out the tank!" rolls off the tongue so easily but "we can't really improve our draft position no matter how badly we play" is such a difficult thing for some folks.
 

EspenK

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I love how "OMG we suck season's over break out the tank!" rolls off the tongue so easily but "we can't really improve our draft position no matter how badly we play" is such a difficult thing for some folks.

You say po-tay-to, I can't say po-tah-to. Must be one of those kind of things. :laugh:
 

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I love how "OMG we suck season's over break out the tank!" rolls off the tongue so easily but "we can't really improve our draft position no matter how badly we play" is such a difficult thing for some folks.

Yep, the only question is if we're going to play good enough to hurt it. Frankly I'm tired of every GTD being hijacked by this topic. We draft where we draft.

Nice OT goal there. Kind of nice to sweep western Canada. Finally. Would have been better had the games meant something, but at least that monkey is gone.
 

OldGoaltender

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The day the Jackets start "loafing" or tanking just to get a better pick is the day I stop being a fan.

Amen! We all like having a high pick but losing or worse yet tanking is for quitters. Losing begets losing. That's not the psyche you want to develop, you hit a skid or bump you want your players to be resilient.
 

Johnny Jacket

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1 Pittsburgh Sidney Crosby C
2 Anaheim Bobby Ryan R
3 Carolina Jack Johnson D
4 Minnesota Benoit Pouliot L
5 Montreal Carey Price G
6 Columbus Gilbert Brule C
7 Chicago Jack Skille R
8 San Jose Devin Setoguchi R
9 Ottawa Brian Lee D 1
10 Vancouver Luc Bourdon D
11 Los Angeles Anze Kopitar C
12 NY Rangers Marc Staal

It's not where you pick but who you pick. In 2005 we missed out on Sid when he was a kid. We had the pick 6 so we took Gilbert Brule, the 2nd coming of Sid the kid. If we had played our way to the 11th pick maybe our scouts would have been forced to take Antz instead.:naughty:

Another point is we now have the number 3 and 7 picks from that draft. Would you trade the number 3,6 and 7 picks in 2005 for the 11th pick in 2005 now?
As the wise Tim W. Aka "Kick Save" say's "the draft is a crap shoot!!!":nod:

So relax and enjoy when you're on a plane or in a store and someone yells "Marko" and you and 50 others shout "Dano" while you wear you're "Bourque is back" T-shirt.:D
 

CoachWithNoTeam

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I love how "OMG we suck season's over break out the tank!" rolls off the tongue so easily but "we can't really improve our draft position no matter how badly we play" is such a difficult thing for some folks.

Yeah. If we don't win another game for the rest of the season, we are probably picking 6th-7th with a ~8% chance to win the lottery. If we win out, we are probably looking at picking 8th-9th with a ~5% chance to win the lottery.

Probably looking at the same group of people in that range (6-12) anyways.
Meier, Rantanen, Provorov, Barzal, Crouse, Zacha, Merkley... With an outside shot at one of the top 5 that could slip.

The best thing we can hope for is to start winning some games and have New Jersey and Philly carry their weight too. With 10 games left and 8 points behind Dallas/SJ/Colorado, I don't see them quite pulling that off.
 

Nanabijou

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1 Pittsburgh Sidney Crosby C
2 Anaheim Bobby Ryan R
3 Carolina Jack Johnson D
4 Minnesota Benoit Pouliot L
5 Montreal Carey Price G
6 Columbus Gilbert Brule C
7 Chicago Jack Skille R
8 San Jose Devin Setoguchi R
9 Ottawa Brian Lee D 1
10 Vancouver Luc Bourdon D
11 Los Angeles Anze Kopitar C
12 NY Rangers Marc Staal

It's not where you pick but who you pick. In 2005 we missed out on Sid when he was a kid. We had the pick 6 so we took Gilbert Brule, the 2nd coming of Sid the kid. If we had played our way to the 11th pick maybe our scouts would have been forced to take Antz instead.:naughty:

Another point is we now have the number 3 and 7 picks from that draft. Would you trade the number 3,6 and 7 picks in 2005 for the 11th pick in 2005 now?
As the wise Tim W. Aka "Kick Save" say's "the draft is a crap shoot!!!":nod:

So relax and enjoy when you're on a plane or in a store and someone yells "Marko" and you and 50 others shout "Dano" while you wear you're "Bourque is back" T-shirt.:D

Good post. Unless we win the lottery, we are going to be in that third tier range no matter what (first tier - 1 and 2; 2nd tier - 3 to 5). The focus should be on scouting these players and making as sound a decision as possible, not worrying about whether we pick 7th or 9th. In this draft, there are likely going to be some great players picked 6th to 15th - find that diamond!
 

Cyclones Rock

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Dano was a 27th overall pick.

If anyone can find anything which definitively shows that the difference between picking 6th and 8th amounts to very much historically, then it would be nice to see it posted.

A strong finish with almost a full line up-almost all of whom will be returning next season- would be of much greater benefit than a slightly higher draft pick. Call me short sighted, but I'd much rather have a more confident returning group of players than having some kid who **might** play out to be marginally better than some other kid in 5 years.

I hope that we win out and win the lottery.

Just win, Jackets.
 

WannabeFinn

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Dano was a 27th overall pick.

If anyone can find anything which definitively shows that the difference between picking 6th and 8th amounts to very much historically, then it would be nice to see it posted.
2000: 6th - Hartnell, 8th - Nikita Alexeev
2001: 6th - Mikko Koivu, 8th - Pascal Leclaire
2002: 6th - Upshall, 8th - Pierre-Marc Bouchard
2003: 6th - Milan Michalek, 8th - Braydon Coburn
2004: 6th - Al Montoya, 8th - Alexandre Picard
2005: 6th - Gilbert Brule, 8th - Devin Setoguchi
2006: 6th - Derick Brassard, 8th - Peter Mueller
2007: 6th - Sam Gagner, 8th - Zach Hamill
2008: 6th - Filatov, 8th - Mikkel Boedker
2009: 6th - OEL, 8th - Scott Glennie
2010: 6th - Brett Connolly, 8th - Alexander Burmistrov
2011: 6th - Mika Zibanejad, 8th - Sean Couturier
2012: 6th - Hampus Lindholm, 8th - Derrick Pouliot

I'd say Setoguchi and Boedker are the only 8th overall picks that are distinctly better than the 6th overall picks from their draft years. Both of those 6th overall picks were CBJ selections. Surprise!
 

Cyclones Rock

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2000: 6th - Hartnell, 8th - Nikita Alexeev
2001: 6th - Mikko Koivu, 8th - Pascal Leclaire
2002: 6th - Upshall, 8th - Pierre-Marc Bouchard
2003: 6th - Milan Michalek, 8th - Braydon Coburn
2004: 6th - Al Montoya, 8th - Alexandre Picard
2005: 6th - Gilbert Brule, 8th - Devin Setoguchi
2006: 6th - Derick Brassard, 8th - Peter Mueller
2007: 6th - Sam Gagner, 8th - Zach Hamill
2008: 6th - Filatov, 8th - Mikkel Boedker
2009: 6th - OEL, 8th - Scott Glennie
2010: 6th - Brett Connolly, 8th - Alexander Burmistrov
2011: 6th - Mika Zibanejad, 8th - Sean Couturier
2012: 6th - Hampus Lindholm, 8th - Derrick Pouliot

I'd say Setoguchi and Boedker are the only 8th overall picks that are distinctly better than the 6th overall picks from their draft years. Both of those 6th overall picks were CBJ selections. Surprise!

And there you go. Thanks. Win!!
 

EspenK

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Dano was a 27th overall pick.

If anyone can find anything which definitively shows that the difference between picking 6th and 8th amounts to very much historically, then it would be nice to see it posted.

A strong finish with almost a full line up-almost all of whom will be returning next season- would be of much greater benefit than a slightly higher draft pick. Call me short sighted, but I'd much rather have a more confident returning group of players than having some kid who **might** play out to be marginally better than some other kid in 5 years.

I hope that we win out and win the lottery.

Just win, Jackets.

You are short sighted. :laugh: Do you really believe that these guys are going to be influenced by the last ten games? They all know that this season has sucked since game 4 and it has nothing to do with them but rather losing approximately 500 man games to injury.

This is essentially the same group that made the playoffs last year. They know they are good enough to do it again whether they finish 10-0 or 0-10.

I'd rather have a better chance of winning the lottery; call me long sighted. :laugh:
 

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