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Game 7 Starting Goalie?

Which Jets goalie should start Game 7

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Duke749 said:
Who it should be? I have absolutely no idea. Who will it be? Extremely likely it’s Helly
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This.

Going of OPs premise if I were the coach, I probably stick with Hellebuyck. Not loving the idea of Comrie’s first career playoff start being in a Game 7.

Since we’re already into pure hypothetical territory: having a healthy 2023-24 version of Brossoit, I probably would have made a goalie switch heading into Game 5.
 
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Jets4Life said:
Thought I would put this up. Hellebuyck is now considered the worst playoff goalie in NHL history. There is a chance that the Jets will need to score 5 goals to win, if Helle plays in net.

Or should we go with Comrie? He is not great, but Comrie is playing much better. The Blues also have figured Hellebuyck out. With Comrie, he may be able to steal the game for us. I am aware that the Jets will likely start Hellebuyck, but if YOU were coach, who would you play?
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Kind of a ridiculous post. Helly is starting period. How many goals has he lead in during the home games ?
 
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Truenorthducky said:
Kind of a ridiculous post. Helly is starting period. How many goals has he lead in during the home games ?
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It is kind of ridiculous, but to be fair to OP he does clarify as the decision you would make if you were coach.

In this hypothetical dreamworld can we also go back in time and acquire a legitimate 1B goalie in the offseason?
 
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Btw I voted Helle

This team is going to either win a cup with him or not. He’s a good tender who has some playoff demons for last few years and maybe beyond depending on what happens tomorrow; next year; etc

He’s going to need to be our best player tomorrow

I think you start Helle and if he gives up 4, you pull him then.
 
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Xavier Laflamme said:
You can always trade him especially if he is open to it, maybe we can do like a three way trade, send him home to the Wings and we try and get LB back once he is healed next season.

Not saying we should but there are still teams who could use his regular season prowess.
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Ya, as you're probably aware, his home is there. Maybe it's an option.
 
King Woodballs said:
How is this even a question?
This fan base is so infuriating most days.
I still can’t figure out why i hang here.

It’s Hellebuyck 1000000%
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Of course it will be Helly. It is only a question because someone made up a thread. I’ll guarantee it is not a question for Arniel or the organization. Helly hasn’t been great but he is still 3-0 at home this series. You just have to trust Helly finds his game, because there is no chance we go past tomorrow unless he does.
 
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King Woodballs said:
How is this even a question?
This fan base is so infuriating most days.
I still can’t figure out why i hang here.

It’s Hellebuyck 1000000%
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Then you are showing your personal bias. Obviously Game 7 is a little late. Personally, I would ahve started Comrie in Game 4 or 6. However, teams ahve done this in the past multiple times. Scott Darling replaced Corey Crawford in net in 2015, and the Blackhawks bounds back and took Round 1.

Frank Pietrtangelo replaced Tom Barasso in round 1, for the Penguins. Then Barasso bounced back and helped lead the team to the Stanley Cup. There was also Schneider replacing Luongo in 2012, after Vancouver won the Presidents Trophy.

This happened last year as well. In Game 4, there was a lot of talk by Jets fans about replacing a clearly rattled Helle with Brossoit, who was actually coming off a Stanley Cup winning season with Las Vegas. The Jets failed to start Broissoit, and got lit up in both games 4 and 5.

Comrie is not a great goalie, but what would be wrong for starting him either in Game 4 or 6? Obviously Game 7 is a huge risk, but what do we honestly have to lose? The Blues are just going to park themselves in front of the net, screen helle for the entire game, and the Jets D can't shove them out of the way.

The result will be a 6-2 loss. Is it more important for the Jets to play the guy with the big contract, or is it more important for the Jets to win?
 
Hank Chinaski said:
It is kind of ridiculous, but to be fair to OP he does clarify as the decision you would make if you were coach.

In this hypothetical dreamworld can we also go back in time and acquire a legitimate 1B goalie in the offseason?
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Can we also go back and either acquire a 2C or demand Arniel give in house players a better chance so "well Vlad" isn't the only solution?

Can we go back and demand Heinola gets a run as we know what Stanley is and what if they trade for a big slow vet RHD that makes them swoon and they don't want to take him out of the lineup? Maybe a puck moving LHD would be an asset there?

How about we just go back and not trade for Schenn since Miller is better and is now sitting again, in the PB, while the Jets get throttled because they want big man doing big tings and Stanley has been better 🤔

Sorry for the rant :laugh:.

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Jets4Life said:
Then you are showing your personal bias. Obviously Game 7 is a little late. Personally, I would ahve started Comrie in Game 4 or 6. However, teams ahve done this in the past multiple times. Scott Darling replaced Corey Crawford in net in 2015, and the Blackhawks bounds back and took Round 1.

Frank Pietrtangelo replaced Tom Barasso in round 1, for the Penguins. Then Barasso bounced back and helped lead the team to the Stanley Cup. There was also Schneider replacing Luongo in 2012, after Vancouver won the Presidents Trophy.

This happened last year as well. In Game 4, there was a lot of talk by Jets fans about replacing a clearly rattled Helle with Brossoit, who was actually coming off a Stanley Cup winning season with Las Vegas. The Jets failed to start Broissoit, and got lit up in both games 4 and 5.

Comrie is not a great goalie, but what would be wrong for starting him either in Game 4 or 6? Obviously Game 7 is a huge risk, but what do we honestly have to lose? The Blues are just going to park themselves in front of the net, screen helle for the entire game, and the Jets D can't shove them out of the way.

The result will be a 6-2 loss. Is it more important for the Jets to play the guy with the big contract, or is it more important for the Jets to win?
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Well that (bolded) is a false dichotomy if I’ve ever seen one.

Not sure where you’re going with that Frank Pietrangelo reference, either. Barrasso was injured. Apples and oranges.
 
Our fate was sealed when we started Helle in Game 6.

I think the smarter move would have been Comrie - win, then great, lose, then go back to Helle in Game 7.

No way we start Comrie in Game 7
 
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We should go miller in for Schenn, feels like he's been playing tentatively and is buddies with his brother and all his teammates.

This lineup wins it for us at home.

Connor - Scheifele - Vilardi
Perfetti - Names - Ehlers
Nino - Lowry - Appleton
Tanev - Barron - Iafallo

Morrissey - DeMelo
Samberg - Pionk
Stanley - Miller

Helle
 
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In other news... Arniel says Mark Scheifele is feeling a lot better and will be a game time decision for game 7 tomorrow.

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It's a question because Hellebuyck made it a question.

Doesn't mean that Helly isn't the right answer to the question, but it's still a question. If it wasn't an issue, no one would obviously be talking about it.

And it's funny... All the talk that I have read on here to both sides of the argument, doesn't even come close to just how negative the take is about Helly in other markets and other broadcasts. Listening to NHL radio today, and in their opinions there is no question that Comrie should start, and if Comrie doesn't start, then the first even questionable goal let in by Helly, he's out of the game.

But they do admit that the Jets are caught between a rock and a hard place. Do you risk an unproven and risk alienating your Vezina goalie?
 
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Hank Chinaski said:
Well that (bolded) is a false dichotomy if I’ve ever seen one.

Not sure where you’re going with that Frank Pietrangelo reference, either. Barrasso was injured. Apples and oranges.
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Perhaps.

How do you explain all the other examples? These are just off the top of my head. It's the Jets inability to pivot, and adjust their lineup when players like Hellebuyck are rattled. It's the difference between championship teams, and teams that look good on paper, but implode.

2024 was the main example of the Jets having a very competetant backup goalie in Brossoit, and not playing him, and giving Helly enough time to recouperate from his disasterous performances in the first 3 games. It's happening all over again, and this time, Comrie is playing way above average, with a 0.920% and has some of the top goalie stats in the playoffs.

Take those blinders off, and get with the program. We will probably not win if Hellebuyck plays. The Blues (and Avs in 2024) have figured him out, and the Jets defence is not protecting him from being screened.
 
cbcwpg said:
And it's funny... All the talk that I have read on here to both sides of the argument, doesn't even come close to just how negative the take is about Helly in other markets and other broadcasts. Listening to NHL radio today, and in their opinions there is no question that Comrie should start, and if Comrie doesn't start, then the first even questionable goal let in by Helly, he's out of the game.
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^This.

Other markets are laughing at us for being too stubborn to rest Hellebuyck for a game or two, as he clearly is not in a good frame of mind. Neither is the Jets D. For the past 3 years, the Jets have had to do something radical in the playoffs to stop the bleeding, but stubbornly cling to Hellebuyck until the bitter end.

It appears many regular posters have blinders on, and insist on not changing anything about the lineup. Around the NHL, we have become a complete joke. I am willing to bet that if this happened to other teams, 2/3 would have made a goalie switch by Game 4. I have been the biggest Hellebuyck fan out of everyone, and even I was saying last year that the Jets needed to put in Brossoit for Game 4 vs Colorado.

It's time to toss the homerism out the window, and do what it takes to win the series.
 
Aries56 said:
Played in 3 playoff games when St Louis has already secured the win, had a sizeable lead, and were coasting.
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Irrelevant.

Comrie has only given up one goal in nearly 50 minutes of play. Hellebuyck is averaging nearly 5 goals/game and barely is over an 0.800% save percentage, which is even bad for a minor league goalie.

In 2015, Corey Crawford was struggling. A 26 year old recovering alcoholic came in and replaced him, in spite of being technically a rookie, and never having played one minute of playoff time. He turned things around, and Chicago won the cup once Crawford regained his confidence. The same thing happened with the Murray/Fleury combo in 2017 with Pittsburgh. Hell, I believe Vegas played with 3 goalies during their cup run in 2023 (with Brossoit starting several games).

However, keep insisting Helle starts every game for 3 years, since the results ahve been so spectacular.
 
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