GDT: Game 7: Red Wings vs devils 7:00 pm et 10/24/24
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Henkka
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Also had Team-worst xGF% from our team. I don't really know what to think about this. Using the guy this heavy, when he is obviously struggling.
Kasper's 5-on-5 on-ice stats:
Corsi 3-26
Fenwick 1-17
Shots 1-10
Scoring chances 0-9
High-Dangers 0-3
Pavels Dog
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People can say what they will but I get a different vibe defensively from this team currently. We'll see if they can actually start creating more offensive zone time, shots etc. but this is the 3rd game in a row where they actually look confident shutting things down defensively late in the game.
8th least goals allowed at 5v5. Now if we can just play Edvinsson all the time on the PK that will improve as well.
8th least goals allowed at 5v5. Now if we can just play Edvinsson all the time on the PK that will improve as well.
This is an example of why the eyetest is superior to advanced stats
Dotter
THE ATHLETIC IS GARBAGE
They did miss him on the PK.
Also, it's fun seeing the NJD fans having meltdowns on the main boards.
At ES they definitely do a good job of keeping teams on the outside and limiting high danger chances. I'm with you on waiting to see if the offense can come around and build on that. They get better transitioning up ice and this season gets interesting for us.
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PelagicJoe
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I still hate the Devils on account of 1995.They did miss him on the PK.
Also, it's fun seeing the NJD fans having meltdowns on the main boards.
Steve Yzerlland
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5 on 5 D wasn’t good either. When NJ had zone time we were constantly caught puck watching and leaving guys open out front. We were just lucky that the player didn’t tip/put the rebound in. This D-core is gonna kill this team. Way worse than last year even with Ed being very good
And walman instead of Gus and Albert instead of Petry. Not good for L-R shot pairings but they would be way better
sepster
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Yzerman- "hey Mike, you got any more future considerations? I've got Ras and a 2nd."
My cousin said thx for showing that graph explaining why ras doesn't f*** around with anyone above 6 feet
Other guys weren't 5'7 .. your asking for too much now
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I don't know that "struggling" is a fair characterization for a guy playing his 4th NHL game against a good team, especially when it's all based on shots taken.
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In the postgame Larkin talked about how Fischer and Chiarot "dragged them into the fight" emotionally. To be clear he meant it positively. That the team was playing without much emotion and those two guys go them fired up and involved.
I read the Rasmussen and Hughes interaction as Hughes hustling to get there and realized he wasn't going to make it and was pulling up at the last second and Ras leaned into him, knocking him over. I think Hughes was a little "WTF man?" and "it's easy to knock someone over when they're stopping and leaning away from you so stop pretending this is some massive hit"
But yeah, to me it looked like Hughes was letting up, just a little too late and Ras took out the trash.
But yeah, to me it looked like Hughes was letting up, just a little too late and Ras took out the trash.
It's part of why those type of guys are so important. You have a a few guys who play with some swagger and it becomes infectious.
- There is a scoring chance for. Oh and there is a high danger scoring chance for. Ill make a note of those.
- That one was a scoring chance against. noted.
- Nice another scoring chance for.
- Alright the period is over. Let's tally those up
You can take it a step further with things like Game Score which add in quality passes, shot assists, skating/passing the puck out of the zone, zone entries, defensive stops, etc,
"Advanced stats" are just measuring, tracking and ultimately quantifying the things you see with the eye test.
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SantosHalper
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Sure but their names often overstate what they are actually measuring. And it still comes into how reliable the data is. The ol' "garbage in/garbage out."
Someone here was saying last game that according to the advanced stats the Wings didn't have any high danger scoring chances, which means Patrick Kane's one timer goal from near the slot was apparently not "high danger."
I can't confirm if that's true but I'm skeptical of using set parameters for "high danger" anyway. Kane in close for a shot is "high danger." Copp, less so. But they're both equal.
It was deemed a scoring chance but not a high danger scoring chance. When you look at the precise location he wasn't quite in the slot and if you consider he had defenders around him (but not immediately on him) I think that is fairly reasonable.
One can argue it was more of a high danger chance, sure. There is some greyness with this sort of activity. This is why sample sizes are important.
But that is equally applicable with "the eye test." One person could say the eye test told him Kasper had a good game. Another person could say it was mediocre. Those grey areas still exist with the eye test, probably more so. In fact, quantifying each event reduces the greyness (especially over large sample sizes) even if you don't 100% agree with the bucketing of every single event.
AlwaysSunnyInDetroit
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lots of talk about other teams needing a 2c on the main boards. maybe whoever told that reporter that compher has diarrhea is full of sh*t???
Wow. Imagine how much better everyone would feel if they'd won the game.
Forgive my ignorance for I don't follow analytics, or advanced stats, but if his numbers are low then he'll fit right in...According to the numbers fanatics the Red Wings last season was a head scratcher.
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