GDT: Game 67: Columbus at Detroit | 3/12 7:30PM EDT

DarkandStormy

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Believe it or not, all of Murray's major injuries have been on different body parts. Maybe he has Klesla-itis but short of a time machine to get him to drink more milk as a kid, sitting him isn't going to cute any potential Klesla-itis.

Umm, his knee, his knee, and oh the same knee? (not counting the ankle and fractured foot)
 

EspenK

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I stand corrected.

I agree with you. i fail to see how playing in 16 more games is going to greatly improve a guy's career. Will it help? Maybe. But given the comments made by HCTR that guys aren't really up to speed for the first umpteen games or so, with only about umpteen games left, I don't see the point.

On the other hand if I was in Murray's position, I'd be really po'd if I was healthy enough to play and had to sit.
 

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...On the other hand if I was in Murray's position, I'd be really po'd if I was healthy enough to play and had to sit.

Good point. These guys work hard to get to the NHL, then even harder to rehabilitate in order to get back on the ice. Can't see kids like Murray or Jenner being happy about not playing when the medical staff says they're ready.
 

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I agree with you. i fail to see how playing in 16 more games is going to greatly improve a guy's career. Will it help? Maybe. But given the comments made by HCTR that guys aren't really up to speed for the first umpteen games or so, with only about umpteen games left, I don't see the point.

On the other hand if I was in Murray's position, I'd be really po'd if I was healthy enough to play and had to sit.

That's exactly how I view it.
 

Johansen2Foligno

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I agree with you. i fail to see how playing in 16 more games is going to greatly improve a guy's career. Will it help? Maybe. But given the comments made by HCTR that guys aren't really up to speed for the first umpteen games or so, with only about umpteen games left, I don't see the point.

On the other hand if I was in Murray's position, I'd be really po'd if I was healthy enough to play and had to sit.

He will have an entire offseason to recuperate. Let him play now.
 

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Assuming they both stay healthy for the rest of the season... Who gets more powerplay time and points for the last few weeks?

Murray or Connauton?
 

DarkandStormy

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What is your evidence/basis for your belief that they've played Murray before he was fully recovered?

He required an additional surgery this past summer after he came back from surgery in the spring to play down the stretch/in the playoffs.

He played a handful of games to start this season before shutting it down for a few months (I believe it was that long) because his knee was not fully healed and strengthened.

All related to the same knee problem.
 

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He required an additional surgery this past summer after he came back from surgery in the spring to play down the stretch/in the playoffs.

He played a handful of games to start this season before shutting it down for a few months (I believe it was that long) because his knee was not fully healed and strengthened.

All related to the same knee problem.

I get you. Do you think the team rushed Murray? If he was ready to play, should the team have taken better care? How will we know in future (or present) whether a player is ready to come back?
 

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As much as I think this FO lacks competence, I just can't see them playing Murray or Jenner unless they're 100%.
 

DarkandStormy

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I get you. Do you think the team rushed Murray? If he was ready to play, should the team have taken better care? How will we know in future (or present) whether a player is ready to come back?

1) Absolutely. He had no business playing on a weakened ligament and a fractured foot. At age 20. Obviously he rushed it back this fall - not sure if that was him trying to go or the team/trainers pushing him too quickly.

2) I think they should have been more sure before deciding he was ready to play. When he only plays a handful of games and then have to shut it down for a couple months, clearly he wasn't ready.

3) "We" the fans will never know since we aren't privy to that information outside of the Dispatch reporting. Each injury/situation is different, but my confidence that the training/medical staff will make the right decision is lacking.
 

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1) Absolutely. He had no business playing on a weakened ligament and a fractured foot. At age 20. Obviously he rushed it back this fall - not sure if that was him trying to go or the team/trainers pushing him too quickly.

2) I think they should have been more sure before deciding he was ready to play. When he only plays a handful of games and then have to shut it down for a couple months, clearly he wasn't ready.

3) "We" the fans will never know since we aren't privy to that information outside of the Dispatch reporting. Each injury/situation is different, but my confidence that the training/medical staff will make the right decision is lacking.

All good. I'll cache my comments from the previous page with the caveat "presuming the player is fully healthy" (I may already have). Well-founded trepidation and eventual hindsight being what they are, of course.
 

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Umm, his knee, his knee, and oh the same knee? (not counting the ankle and fractured foot)

What exactly does this hypothetical rushing him back from a knee surgery you're referring to have to do with the high ankle sprain he's coming back from now?

If he'd re-injured his knee, that would be different. But he didn't.
 

DarkandStormy

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What exactly does this hypothetical rushing him back from a knee surgery you're referring to have to do with the high ankle sprain he's coming back from now?

If he'd re-injured his knee, that would be different. But he didn't.

You said all his major injuries were different. He's had two surgeries and been sidelined three times because of the same knee.
 

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so Dubi is out tonight

as the Blue Jacket Illness & Injuries roll along

Murray expected to play tomorrow night against Oilers
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This is the Red Wings, guys. If the Jackets win this game, this will be the 3rd straight year they win the season series. Remember when the CBJ were the Wings' b*tches's? I'd love a win tonight to continue to put that even further in the past.
Also, Bob is overdue for a monster game ( and not just after getting pissed off after letting in 3 ).
So for tonight at least, go Jackets! Do it for pride :yo:
 

Johansen2Foligno

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This is the Red Wings, guys. If the Jackets win this game, this will be the 3rd straight year they win the season series. Remember when the CBJ were the Wings' b*tches's? I'd love a win tonight to continue to put that even further in the past.
Also, Bob is overdue for a monster game ( and not just after getting pissed off after letting in 3 ).
So for tonight at least, go Jackets! Do it for pride :yo:

True, but a quarter inch the other way and they beat us completely

:amazed:
 

JKinCLE

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True, but a quarter inch the other way and they beat us completely

:amazed:


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Can Murray not be sent to the AHL for conditioning? Probably not best to put him back in the NHL speed when he's played all of what, 1 game since Nov? He's gonna have to try and keep up with playoff pace hockey by the Wings, sometimes not the best way to jump back in after that much time off, of which both injuries were lower body injuries
 

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My name is David Savard. I might cross ice passes to my bench in the middle of a line change. Best case, turn over - which happened. Worst case, too many men penalty.

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Halfboard

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Whew..........we survived getting thru "keys to the game" without getting scored on
 

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