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GDT: Game 64: Sharks @ Avalanche 6:30pm ESPN

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DarrylshutzSydor said:
Cellebrini standing still on Avs goal#6........

Nice pass by Smith
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well they were skating around the zone for like 2 minutes before that.

Star Platinum said:
What you actually did was complain about the sell-off because you think there's some reason we need to have guys like Nico Sturm for the last month and a half instead of a pick that we can use for something else.

These guys aren't stupid - they've known there was a big sell-off coming for weeks. This isn't a bunch of players giving a half-effort because they're sad that guys are being traded.
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i dunno, did they think it was this big? walman is pretty huge IMO. I did not expect that.
 
Some of the comments I see in this thread make me feel like in 5 years they will still be rebuilding and I'm being told to "Trust the Process" and "In Grier we Trust". How many years are we going to "Trust the Process". I'm told in another thread I'm impatient. Well, the team hasn't made the playoffs since 2019, and they are not even close. 4 years from now will be a decade since the team was in the postseason. A Decade is a long time. Maybe even an eternity for a team that is not necessarily a top market.
 
karltonian said:
You're not wrong. I don't like the walman move, I don't see what return we can get from edm that will make it ok. but maybe grier has something brewing.
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For me the thing about Walman is that he was amazing to start the year then he's been extremely poor to pretty inconsistent since returning from his injury. Do you bank on him getting back to what he was to start the year? Or do you cash out now while his value is pretty high and the market favors sellers? Getting a 1st+ for him is a tidy bit of business (even if it's potentially a 26th-32nd pick 1st) if there's any concern that he's gone full pumpkin in the second half of the season.

This year was and still is the back portion of the bottom out. The proper rebuild likely starts next season and the competitive window begins opening the year after that, at which point Walman probably wouldn't still be here anyway.
 
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SJSharksfan39 said:
Some of the comments I see in this thread make me feel like in 5 years they will still be rebuilding and I'm being told to "Trust the Process" and "In Grier we Trust". How many years are we going to "Trust the Process". I'm told in another thread I'm impatient. Well, the team hasn't made the playoffs since 2019, and they are not even close. 4 years from now will be a decade since the team was in the postseason. A Decade is a long time. Maybe even an eternity for a team that is not necessarily a top market.
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on smith and celebrini's development alone things should look a lot different in 3 years. but there's a lot of work ahead of grier.
 
karltonian said:
i dunno, did they think it was this big? walman is pretty huge IMO. I did not expect that.
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Walman they probably didn't expect, but they probably also aren't shocked either. I don't think he endeared himself to the team when he got suspended for missing that treatment session.
 
SJSharksfan39 said:
Some of the comments I see in this thread make me feel like in 5 years they will still be rebuilding and I'm being told to "Trust the Process" and "In Grier we Trust". How many years are we going to "Trust the Process". I'm told in another thread I'm impatient. Well, the team hasn't made the playoffs since 2019, and they are not even close. 4 years from now will be a decade since the team was in the postseason. A Decade is a long time. Maybe even an eternity for a team that is not necessarily a top market.
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Just because they stuck too long with Doug Wilson's bad plan does not mean that Grier's current plan (about to wrap up Year 3) is also a bad plan.
 
SJSharksfan39 said:
Some of the comments I see in this thread make me feel like in 5 years they will still be rebuilding and I'm being told to "Trust the Process" and "In Grier we Trust". How many years are we going to "Trust the Process". I'm told in another thread I'm impatient. Well, the team hasn't made the playoffs since 2019, and they are not even close. 4 years from now will be a decade since the team was in the postseason. A Decade is a long time. Maybe even an eternity for a team that is not necessarily a top market.
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This team spent three of those years spinning it's wheels in utter denial of the hole it had dug itself into, finally seeing the light and firing Wilson (sorry, handing him a pistol with a single bullet and telling him it was time to move on). We've only been rebuilding for less than half that time.

To put it another way - it doesn't matter what Grier or anyone else may have wanted to do, by 2022 our bottom dweller status for multiple years was guaranteed. We can be a bottom dweller with Celebrini, Smith, Askarov, Dickinson, Eklund, and future prospects, or we can be a bottom dweller with the decrepit corpses of Burns and Vlasic and the joyless decline of Hertl and Couture, and no youth worth speaking of save Eklund.
 
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SJSharksfan39 said:
Some of the comments I see in this thread make me feel like in 5 years they will still be rebuilding and I'm being told to "Trust the Process" and "In Grier we Trust". How many years are we going to "Trust the Process". I'm told in another thread I'm impatient. Well, the team hasn't made the playoffs since 2019, and they are not even close. 4 years from now will be a decade since the team was in the postseason. A Decade is a long time. Maybe even an eternity for a team that is not necessarily a top market.
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We just need Schaefer. We have the 1C, future 1G and another star first line forward in Smith. If we can land Schaefer - and maybe these extra 1sts can help us trade up from 3rd or 2nd overall depending on which teams are picking ahead of us - then everything else will be relatively easy to acquire given our surplus futures and unlimited cap flexibility.
 
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Cas said:
To put it another way - it doesn't matter what Grier or anyone else may have wanted to do, by 2022 our bottom dweller status for multiple years was guaranteed. We can be a bottom dweller with Celebrini, Smith, Askarov, Dickinson, Eklund, and future prospects, or we can be a bottom dweller with the decrepit corpses of Burns and Vlasic and the joyless decline of Hertl and Couture, and no youth worth speaking of save Eklund.
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I agreed with the rebuild. My issue tonight is it feels like the first part of the rebuild (The tearing it down) still still happening.
 
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