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GDT: GAME 63 | Red Wings @ Senators | Fabian vs the Octopus Edition | Mon Mar 10 2025, 7:30PM | TVAS, PRIME

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Micklebot said:
probably reacting to this
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He's come back to us!
 
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Honestly, I know this would be negatively viewed. But Leevi is hot and been playing games while Forsberg is cold. With Leevi up why not just start him? Are the Sens going to do what gives them the best chance to win here? or keep Forsberg's morale up? He is gone in the offseason anyways.
 
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Gotta say that calling Leevi up is strange IF neither of our other two guys is hurt. I'm not intimately familiar with our cap situation but it's gotta be tight. Hopefully this doesn't impact our ability to make more necessary callups down the stretch.

But, shit, since he's here why not start the kid?
 
Micklebot said:
He's actually .914, playing in the AHL.

I don't think either guy is a bad choice right now. They are both playing well.
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Belleville just doesn't have our D ;)
(never thought I would say that haha)

Anyway I think this game is winnable for either goalie if the team brings last night 1st period intensity and the refs aren't too hard on us
 
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Micklebot said:
I've stated the actual reasons against it more than once now, but you keep coming back to something I never said (I don't think anyone has other than perhaps a general, why are we changing this sentiment), when you summarize with strawmen, it doesn't make your case stronger.
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Sorry but the reasons you gave made no sense. You talked about time running during football without acknowledging that, like hockey, there are many many many times in a quarter/period where the clock is stopped.

You also brought up player behaviour after the buzzer as if players immediately stop playing, like they turn off a switch. You saw what happened yesterday after time had ended. You've seen, probably hundreds of times, play continuing for 1-2 seconds after the period or game has ended. It's really not that strong of an argument when players often don't hear whistles or end of time buzzers.

And finally you brought up that it could be hard to see the whole ice as if it's such a complex problem with no easy solutions. Put more cameras pointing towards the ice. Problem solved.
Micklebot said:
2-line pass rule was actually instituted for specific reasons, it aimed to stretch out the defense and create more offense. What exactly are we solving by shifting the buzzer beater from the goal line to the release of the stick? If you want more time in games so that we don't miss out on a potential scoring play, why isn't extending periods by 5 seconds the answer instead? That way you'd even get the opportunity for a rebound play, wow, even more iconic plays!
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And yet the 2-line rule was in place for 60+ years. Why did we change that? Why did we change the size of goalie equipment? Or the rules on length of sticks and curvatures of blades? Or the size of the neutral zone? Or the trapezoid? Or any of the other dozens of changes that have been made to the rule book over the years?
Micklebot said:
What makes more sense about what you are suggesting? You are literally asking for goals to be counted after the game is over, why, because basketball does it? There's no problem to be solved here...
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It's really not that complicated. I've already mentioned that it could also have a significant impact on set plays from late-period offensive zone faceoffs or in situations where a player gets a breakaway or odd-man rush at the end of a period of play, it could give them extra time to make an additional move/deke before shooting.

You seem to be incredibly stuck on "counting goals after the game is over" like there's no precedent in any other sport for scoring plays to happen after time expires. If a player has already directed the puck towards the goal before the clock is zeros, why is it such an absurd idea to wanna see the conclusion of that shot?
 
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BankStreetParade said:
Sorry but the reasons you gave made no sense. You talked about time running during football without acknowledging that, like hockey, there are many many many times in a quarter/period where the clock is stopped.

You also brought up player behaviour after the buzzer as if players immediately stop playing, like they turn off a switch. You saw what happened yesterday after time had ended. You've seen, probably hundreds of times, play continuing for 1-2 seconds after the period or game has ended. It's really not that strong of an argument when players often don't hear whistles or end of time buzzers.

And finally you brought up that it could be hard to see the whole ice as if it's such a complex problem with no easy solutions. Put more cameras pointing towards the ice. Problem solved.

And yet the 2-line rule was in place for 60+ years. Why did we change that? Why did we change the size of goalie equipment? Or the rules on length of sticks and curvatures of blades? Or the size of the neutral zone? Or the trapezoid? Or any of the other dozens of changes that have been made to the rule book over the years?

It's really not that complicated. I've already mentioned that it could also have a significant impact on set plays from late-period offensive zone faceoffs or in situations where a player gets a breakaway or odd-man rush at the end of a period of play, it could give them extra time to make an additional move/deke before shooting.

You seem to be incredibly stuck on "counting goals after the game is over" like there's no precedent in any other sport for scoring plays to happen after time expires. If a player has already directed the puck towards the goal before the clock is zeros, why is it such an absurd idea to wanna see the conclusion of that shot?
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It's funny, because everybody but you seems to understand how bad an idea this is. Maybe that should make you take pause, not that it seems to have in the past when you've had crazy ideas you felt compelled to post.

Your idea creates a situation where players are incentivized to continue playing after the whistle goes, that's not the type of behaviour you want to encourage,

More cameras is not really a reasonable answer here, and it's only being proposed because you want to impose a rule change that doesn't solve an actual problem.

You seem incredibly stuck on defending this idea to the death, but it's death happened long ago, I won't keep beating the dead horse, it's one of the dumbest ideas I've seen posted here, and that's a damn high bar since there have been some doozys,
 
Micklebot said:
It's funny, because everybody but you seems to understand how bad an idea this is. Maybe that should make you take pause, not that it seems to have in the past when you've had crazy ideas you felt compelled to post.

Your idea creates a situation where players are incentivized to continue playing after the whistle goes, that's not the type of behaviour you want to encourage,

More cameras is not really a reasonable answer here, and it's only being proposed because you want to impose a rule change that doesn't solve an actual problem.

You seem incredibly stuck on defending this idea to the death, but it's death happened long ago, I won't keep beating the dead horse, it's one of the dumbest ideas I've seen posted here, and that's a damn high bar since there have been some doozys,
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Oh I've been sleeping so terribly knowing how dumb I look to all the big, smart, strong HFBoards posters. LOL.
 
Micklebot said:
Your idea creates a situation where players are incentivized to continue playing after the whistle goes, that's not the type of behaviour you want to encourage,
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This is the main reason I wouldn't want the change. I hate post game scrums and the proposed change means more of those and knowing our luck, more injuries
 
I agree with BSP I just think he has it backwards. NBA should go to the NHL rules. Imagine how iconic "The Shot" would have been if Ehlo's defence kept Jordan to the outside and he got a late shot off that didn't count. Games over, clock hit zero why are we adding make believe time? Is the game 48 minutes or is it 48 mintues and 2 seconds?
 
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