GDT: Game 61: Sharks @ Senators 4:00pm NBCSCA

[hohosaregood]

oof kids

 

[SJSharksfan39]

The premise that player and fanbase moral is at all time lows is a false one to me. This is normal rebuilding team losing sort of shit and we have to let the kids we're trying to build around experience it and get better. People, including any players that feel similarly, need to exercise patience.

It's one thing to be patient. What I'm saying is the Sharks better be careful not to be stuck in the same pattern every year. They have to show improvement next year. Another year of going for the #1 pick might end trying patience of many many people.

 

[Juxtaposer]

RIP Will.

We're going to have to start calling him Macklin Secondary at this rate.

 

[Bizz]

Another Warsofsky special puts us one step closer to Schaefer.

 

[Sharkz4Fun]

A vintage Marleau play by Smith to seal another game away. Might be too late...

 

[Chinaski89]

This man being WarShitty

 

[weastern bias]

The sky isn't falling

We were one of the worst teams of all time a year ago, anyone who expected a huge boost in the win column was being unrealistic

As much as no one wants to accept that luck is a factor in sports, the fact that we've been so many one goal games so late in the frame means we're a MUCH better team than we were last year, we're just losing all the coin flips, but our most important players are all children so they don't know how to make the most of those high-leverage situations yet, that will come with experience

If anything, we're getting GOOD luck to lose on so many coin flips, we could have easily won 5 more games this year and have come away with 10 more points and be looking at the 4th-6th pick instead of 1st-3rd

I'm not worried about morale, the results won't be here next year either, and that's still fine

Our franchise cornerstones will be 23, 23, 20, 19 and 18 years old, the present is not our time, the hashtag is #theFUTUREisteal for a reason

 

[vortexy]

With the amount of times the Sharks have gone 5 and even 6 forwards on the PP/extra man you have to think Grier must know he needs to find the team a PP QB at the very least….if he doesn’t I honestly think just give Cagnoni a shot. The forwards just don’t have the ability to walk the blue line like a true PP QB can

 

[Juxtaposer]

Walman can't handle the puck to save his life lately. Mukhamadullin was the best defenseman for us tonight IMO.

 

[DarrylshutzSydor]

I’d hope so Berard only had one eye

Even with only 25% vision in his damaged eye, go look at Berards comeback season stats with the NYI.

Walman can't handle the puck to save his life lately. Mukhamadullin was the best defenseman for us tonight IMO.

Thats the frustrating thing with this guy, one game he looks brilliant, then 5 games terrible......

 

[Star Platinum]

It's amazing how many self-inflicted wounds the Sharks commit each game while their opponents barely commit any

 

[Pinkfloyd]

It's one thing to be patient. What I'm saying is the Sharks better be careful not to be stuck in the same pattern every year. They have to show improvement next year. Another year of going for the #1 pick might end trying patience of many many people.

And voicing that concern IS an issue of not being patient. That sort of issue is only going to show itself or not next year and not now this season because this is a year one of a new team sort of season. The plan this entire time was to improve on whatever this year resulted with because we're building around two rookies and we needed to see what they had. You're jumping the gun on this sort of concern, imo, and that seems like being impatient with a young team.

 

[hohosaregood]

anywho, kids were pretty good. mukh and smith look like NHLers. i feel like walman, liljegren, ferraro, and mukh could be a solid bottom 4 on an average team. we really need 2x solid defensive puck movers to build out a competent defense but it's getting closer. kinda the same situation up front. we could really use a good top 6 forward that can win board plays reliably and we could have a solid top 9. It's just unfortunate that we don't have replacement level for those roles right now.

 

[Lebanezer]

lol at the 3 stars all being Senators. Celebrini and Smith >>>> all Senators. I don’t even care.

 

[YUPPY 2 7 10 11]

It's one thing to be patient. What I'm saying is the Sharks better be careful not to be stuck in the same pattern every year. They have to show improvement next year. Another year of going for the #1 pick might end trying patience of many many people.

If the Sharks win the first overall pick again this year (thanks to the new rules), they won’t be able to win it again until 2029 since teams can only get the top pick twice in a five-year span.

 

[Juxtaposer]

anywho, kids were pretty good. mukh and smith look like NHLers. i feel like walman, liljegren, ferraro, and mukh could be a solid bottom 4 on an average team. we really need 2x solid defensive puck movers to build out a competent defense but it's getting closer. kinda the same situation up front. we could really use a good top 6 forward that can win board plays reliably and we could have a solid top 9. It's just unfortunate that we don't have replacement level for those roles right now.

Schaefer-Ekblad
Walman-Mukhamadullin
Ferraro-Liljegren

That'll do, pig?

Walman obviously hasn't been very good lately, but I just can't be mad at him when he's been asked to do way more than he's capable of. Put him in a proper role (2nd pairing, PP2) and I think he would do just fine.

 

[Barrie22]

If the Sharks win the first overall pick again this year (thanks to the new rules), they won’t be able to win it again until 2029 since teams can only get the top pick twice in a five-year span.

Nope, if we finish last we can still have another potentially 2 lottery wins (if we don't finish last again)

 

[Pinkfloyd]

If the Sharks win the first overall pick again this year (thanks to the new rules), they won’t be able to win it again until 2029 since teams can only get the top pick twice in a five-year span.

This is not accurate. The rule is that the lottery win has to move them up the draft for it to count against the two in five year limit. If the Sharks finish last and win the lottery again, they still won't have any lottery win count against the limit.

 

[The Nemesis]

If the Sharks win the first overall pick again this year (thanks to the new rules), they won’t be able to win it again until 2029 since teams can only get the top pick twice in a five-year span.

The lottery win rule only triggers on lottery wins where the team moves up in the draft order. Winning the lottery from the #1 spot doesn't count. So the Celebrini win isn't held against them.

 

[OrrNumber4]

Schaefer-Ekblad
Walman-Mukhamadullin
Ferraro-Liljegren

That'll do, pig?

Walman obviously hasn't been very good lately, but I just can't be mad at him when he's been asked to do way more than he's capable of. Put him in a proper role (2nd pairing, PP2) and I think he would do just fine.

Oof, giving Schaefer top-pairing minutes and Mukhamadullin 2nd-pair minutes seems dangerous.

 

[Anomie2029]

The sky isn't falling

We were one of the worst teams of all time a year ago, anyone who expected a huge boost in the win column was being unrealistic

As much as no one wants to accept that luck is a factor in sports, the fact that we've been so many one goal games so late in the frame means we're a MUCH better team than we were last year, we're just losing all the coin flips, but our most important players are all children so they don't know how to make the most of those high-leverage situations yet, that will come with experience

If anything, we're getting GOOD luck to lose on so many coin flips, we could have easily won 5 more games this year and have come away with 10 more points and be looking at the 4th-6th pick instead of 1st-3rd

I'm not worried about morale, the results won't be here next year either, and that's still fine

Our franchise cornerstones will be 23, 23, 20, 19 and 18 years old, the present is not our time, the hashtag is #theFUTUREisteal for a reason

Hmmm… I’d take at least one more win than last season….

 

[Barrie22]

Oof, giving Schaefer top-pairing minutes and Mukhamadullin 2nd-pair minutes seems dangerous.

Not anymore dangerous then giving walman top pairing and Ferraro 2nd pairing minutes.

 

[OrrNumber4]

Not anymore dangerous then giving walman top pairing and Ferraro 2nd pairing minutes.

I'm fine if it is dangerous to the team, but not if it hurts a player's development.

 

[Barrie22]

I'm fine if it is dangerous to the team, but not if it hurts a player's development.

Just having walman and Ferraro playing so much hurts the development of the rookies. So i would rather the rookies learn the hard way like smith and celebrini are having to do this year.

 

[drunksage]

SNOG announcement​

A new/old sorta-challenger for the SNOG lead has emerged.

I'm hoping the Sens actually make the post season so we can get more entertaining Tkachuk/Tkachuk action and with Brady coming back and probably will be motivated, this will probably be another loss.

SNOG

Sens 5 (Tkachuk x2, Stutzle, Chabot, Batherson)
Sharks 3 (Celebrini x2, Smith)

Congrats @SJSharksfan39 on your 4th SNOG of the season!

Spoiler: 2024-25 First-half SNOG Results

#	Date / Opponent​	SNOG Winner(s)​	Result​
1	Oct. 10 vs Blues	none	Blues 5-4 OT
2	Oct. 12 vs Ducks	none	Ducks 2-0
3	Oct. 15 at Stars	weastern bias	Stars 3-2 SO
4	Oct. 17 at Blackhawks	weastern bias	Blackhawks 4-2
5	Oct. 18 at Jets	none	Jets 8-3
6	Oct. 20 vs Avalanche	none	Avalanche 4-1
7	Oct. 22 at Ducks	Timo Time	Ducks 3-1
8	Oct. 24 at Kings	Friday	Kings 3-2
9	Oct. 26 at VGK	none	VGK 7-3
10	Oct. 28 at Utah	none	Sharks 5-4 OT
11	Oct. 29 vs Kings	MackAttack71, bluefunnel, sharks_dynasty	Sharks 4-2
12	Oct. 31 vs Blackhawks	none	Sharks 3-2
13	Nov. 2 vs Canucks	none	Canucks 3-2
14	Nov. 5 vs Blue Jackets	none	Sharks 2-1 OT
15	Nov. 7 vs Wild	timorous me	Wild 5-2
16	Nov. 10 at Devils	none	Sharks 1-0
17	Nov. 11 at Flyers	TheBigDrunkPanda	Flyers 4-3 SO
18	Nov. 14 at Rangers	none	Rangers 3-2
19	Nov. 16 at Penguins	PattyLafontaine	Penguins 4-3 SO
20	Nov. 18 vs Red Wings	none	Sharks 5-4 OT
21	Nov. 20 at Stars	weastern bias	Stars 5-2
22	Nov. 21 at Blues	bullslugg, coooldude	Blues 3-2 SO
23	Nov. 23 vs Sabres	none	Sabres 4-2
24	Nov. 25 vs Kings	none	Sharks 7-2
25	Nov. 27 vs Senators	coooldude, PattyLafontaine	Senators 4-3
26	Nov. 29 vs Kraken	none	Sharks 8-5
27	Nov. 30 at Kraken	bluefunnel	Sharks 4-2
28	Dec. 3 at Capitals	none	Sharks 2-1 OT
29	Dec. 5 at Lightning	none	Lightning 8-1
30	Dec. 7 at Panthers	none	Panthers 3-1
31	Dec. 10 at Hurricanes	Timo Time	Hurricanes 3-2
32	Dec. 12 at Blues	MackAttack71	Sharks 4-3
33	Dec. 14 vs Utah	bullslugg	Hockey Club 4-3
34	Dec. 17 vs Jets	SJSharksfan39	Jets 4-3
35	Dec. 19 vs Avalanche	anthonyyy	Avalanche 4-2
36	Dec. 21 at Oilers	PattyLafontaine	Oilers 3-2 OT
37	Dec. 23 at Canucks	Timo Time	Canucks 4-3
38	Dec. 27 vs VGK	SJSharksfan39	VGK 6-3
39	Dec. 28 vs Flames	none	Flames 3-1
40	Dec. 31 vs Flyers	none	Flyers 4-0
41	Jan. 2 vs Lightning	none	Sharks 2-1

#	Date / Opponent​	SNOG Winner(s)​	Result​
42	Jan. 4 vs Devils	LadyStanley	Sharks 3-2
43	Jan. 7 vs VGK	weastern bias	VGK 4-2
44	Jan. 10 at Utah	none	Hockey Club 2-1
45	Jan. 11 vs Wild	weastern bias	Wild 3-1
46	Jan. 14 at Red Wings	none	Sharks 6-3
47	Jan. 16 at Blue Jackets	weastern bias	Blue Jackets 4-1
48	Jan. 18 at Islanders	TheBeard	Islanders 4-1
49	Jan. 20 at Bruins	none	Bruins 6-3
50	Jan. 21 at Predators	none	Predators 7-5
51	Jan. 23 vs Predators	Great Makohead Shork	Predators 6-5
52	Jan. 25 vs Panthers	SJSharksfan39	Panthers 7-2
53	Jan. 27 vs Penguins	none	Sharks 2-1
54	Jan. 30 at Kraken	none	Kraken 6-2
55	Feb. 4 vs Canadiens	none	Canadiens 4-3
56	Feb. 6 vs Canucks	none	Canucks 2-1
57	Feb. 8 vs Stars	none	Stars 8-3
58	Feb. 23 at Flames	Star Platinum	Flames 3-2
59	Feb. 24 at Jets	none	Jets 2-1 OT
60	Feb. 27 at Canadiens	bullslugg	Canadiens 4-3 OT
61	Mar. 1 at Senators	SJSharksfan39	Senators 5-3

Rank	2024-25 SNOG standings​	# of SNOGs
1.	weastern bias	6
2	SJSharksfan39	4
T-.3	bullslugg, PattyLafontaine, Timo Time	3
T-6.	bluefunnel, coooldude, MackAttack71	2
T-9.	anthonyyy, Friday, Great Makohead Shork, LadyStanley, sharks_dynasty, Star Platinum, TheBeard, TheBigDrunkPanda, timorous me	1