Post-Game Talk: Game #59: Canucks lose 5-2 to the Canadiens

[McHortton]

Hey guys cheer up... We're still doing better then LA somehow!!!

 

[stuffradio]

If we lose the next 6 games, and Flames win the next 6 games, they'd have more points than us.

 

[stuffradio]

Hey guys cheer up... We're still doing better then LA somehow!!!

No we're not. The Kings have like 4 more points than us...

 

[McHortton]

No we're not. The Kings have like 4 more points than us...

Sorry I meant streak wise... Last 10 games or so. They're 1-8-1 and we're 3-7-0. So good.

 

[Jyrki]

Injured Henrik is tipping the scale, badly.

 

[Bleach Clean]

They were the better team but found a way to lose because they were icing guys like Corrado and Sauve (3rd goal was on them) plus 2 unlucky goals (2nd and 4th). Meanwhile, Price had a great game.

They were the better possession team, they were the better team at creating scoring chances, they were the faster team, they were the more physical team, etc.

...And the top guys still failed to score.

They were the better possession team, as they perhaps were in other games on this streak, and they still lost. I'm all for possession. When arguments of shot quality were brought up against the Canucks earlier in the year, I was there in defense - using possession. Now? 18 games for Daniel, 19 for Booth, 27 for Burrows and Hansen has been garbage etc...

I think they will continue to be OK with possession. Conversion, and more importantly conversion from their better players, that's a whole different story.

Edit: They were 6th in 5v5, score close at the beginning of the year, dropped to 14th and are now 9th again. This points to a regression, but now 6 games and waiting... (differing number games for different players as well)

 

[TmX]

If we lose the next 6 games, and Flames win the next 6 games, they'd have more points than us.

Oh god that is one depressing fact!

 

[NuxFan09]

Luongo: 4 goals on 28 shots.

Was he bad tonight or was it a matter of the team sucking in front of him?

 

[Tiranis]

...And the top guys still failed to score.

They were the better possession team, as they perhaps were in other games on this streak, and they still lost. I'm all for possession. When arguments of shot quality were brought up against the Canucks earlier in the year, I was there in defense - using possession. Now? 18 games for Daniel, 19 for Booth, 27 for Burrows and Hansen has been garbage etc...

I think they will continue to be OK with possession. Conversion, and more importantly conversion from their better players, that's a whole different story.

Edit: They were 6th in 5v5, score close at the beginning of the year, dropped to 14th and are now 9th again. This points to a regression, but now 6 games and waiting... (differing number games for different players as well)

They generated excellent scoring chances compared to their other games though. Price was very good today. On the other end, Luongo faced a lot of unlucky bounces.

It's a game that looks worse than it was because of our current situation.

 

[Phrazer]

Luongo: 4 goals on 28 shots.

Was he bad tonight or was it a matter of the team sucking in front of him?

Team.

 

[stuffradio]

Luongo: 4 goals on 28 shots.

Was he bad tonight or was it a matter of the team sucking in front of him?

One empty net, one Edler kicked into our net.

 

[NoShowWilly]

Oh god that is one depressing fact!

that would be really funny. The fact they are rebuilding and we aren't. Start ours out of nowhere and be done before them.

 

[McHortton]

Luongo: 4 goals on 28 shots.

Was he bad tonight or was it a matter of the team sucking in front of him?

I only saw the first 2 goals , no chance on the first , second one was kinda bad. But he played fantastic in the 2nd. Made 2 penalty shot saves and a highlight reel save or two. Missed the 3rd period so someone will have to update me too.

 

[Canuck16]

64 shots for Burrows.... 0 goals.

I know he hit the post/crossbar a few times... but those don't count.

 

[y2kcanucks]

Luongo: 4 goals on 28 shots.

Was he bad tonight or was it a matter of the team sucking in front of him?

Team sucked in front of him. One of those goals Edler kicked the puck into his own net. Another Edler turned away from his man to check Diaz's man because Diaz couldn't handle him, and bumped Luongo in the process.

 

[McHortton]

btw another point for Diaz!

 

[luongo321]

Injured Henrik is tipping the scale, badly.

No, Daniel and Burrows playing like complete **** is what is killing this team.

 

[BobbyJazzLegs]

Higgy was great, Booth was playing a big man game, 4th line had some nice shifts. I think the forwards as a group were a hell of a lot better than I've seen lately. Nice to get some PP goals. Tough night for the D especially Corrado and Suave. Lou made some big saves and got unlucky on a couple.

Results would be nice but they don't look as far off as earlier in the week.

 

[NoShowWilly]

64 shots for Burrows.... 0 goals.

I know he hit the post/crossbar a few times... but those don't count.

He has been bad but he is really struggling with that jaw piece. The amount of times he loses the puck in his feet is really noticeable.

I think he'll be better after the break. he is supposed to get the jaw protection off for the start of march.

 

[Bleach Clean]

They generated excellent scoring chances compared to their other games though. Price was very good today. On the other end, Luongo faced a lot of unlucky bounces.

It's a game that looks worse than it was because of our current situation.

Of course, but the situation is the context for the loss. Nobody would be on Daniel/Burrows/Booth/Hansen or the team for not scoring, if they had good recent history. Then it's just a matter of breaks. This is a landslide right now...

They've had good chances in other games as well. Chances are becoming less and less the issue. It's conversion. This is the flipside to the TOR argument, where they are a poor possession club, but their conversion rate keeps them level. The Canucks are going the other way. Same with LA.

There are literally no more excuses for Daniel, Burrows, Booth (even though he played well) and Hansen right now. Excellent chances aren't going to cut it.

 

[TmX]

that would be really funny. The fact they are rebuilding and we aren't. Start ours out of nowhere and be done before them.

If we do it correctly then it should happen.
Btw I still believe we need to start trading core player (Bieksa, Edler, Kesler, Burrows) For young roster players.
We should trade and draft for our needs and not necessary the best player available. (look at Edmonton for example instead of drafting a D man they drafter another forward).

 

[Canuck16]

He has been bad but he is really struggling with that jaw piece. The amount of times he loses the puck in his feet is really noticeable.

I think he'll be better after the break. he is supposed to get the jaw protection off for the start of march.

I think the Canucks are gonna be awesome after the Olympic break. No joke.

 

[Tiranis]

They've had good chances in other games as well. Chances are becoming less and less the issue. It's conversion. This is the flipside to the TOR argument, where they are a poor possession club, but their conversion rate keeps them level.

Not true at all. Toronto believes that they can create as many chances as other teams with less shots. It's not about conversion, it's about scoring chances for them. (And I still consider it ********.)

 

[Bleach Clean]

Another point on conversion: People want snipers brought in to alleviate the need for existing wingers to score, but that's just masking issues. This team can't afford to have Daniel become a pure playmaker. Nor Burrows, or any other big money producer already here.

 

[McHortton]

I think the Canucks are gonna be awesome after the Olympic break. No joke.

I agree.