Post-Game Talk: GAME 59 - B's let a valuable point slip away

[Ladyfan]

In between periods I was with a group of guys (all here at one time) and we were saying they can’t let that Whalstrom penalty kill them

It did

Hey, @GahdenRinkRat and I are not guys.

 

[22Brad Park]

So I read Freddy has leg injury this morning.

 

[Absurdity]

Point as gets crunched way to often.

Some of it is ice awareness and some of it is because he's not afraid of going into those areas where some guys on this team prefer to play on the perimeter. Toronto was targeting him last night. He'll learn from it and needs to continue to fill out.

 

[Hookslide]

Without Pastrnak they are a bottom 5 team. All the analytics point to it.

MVP's do not go to teams that do not make the playoffs, but Pasta, is what a real MVP, should play like. Now decision is do you waste his prime talented years on a rebuild, or do you get aggressive and created and get this guy some support.

 

[Dennis Bonvie]

Why do they lack confidence?

They get paid millions

Spend a few dollars at the confidence store instead of having 5 cars

Btw- I sat in my buds center ice seats up over bench row 2 balcony looking down and I could feel it myself when went to 3-2

In between periods I was with a group of guys (all here at one time) and we were saying they can’t let that Whalstrom penalty kill them

It did

What a great seat!

That's where I would sit every game if I could. Or maybe row 1.

 

[mjhfb]

Why do they lack confidence?

They get paid millions

Spend a few dollars at the confidence store instead of having 5 cars

Btw- I sat in my buds center ice seats up over bench row 2 balcony looking down and I could feel it myself when went to 3-2

In between periods I was with a group of guys (all here at one time) and we were saying they can’t let that Whalstrom penalty kill them

It did

I laughed reading about your "confidence store", if it was only that easy. Reminded me of the Costanza "Jerk Store". Whalstrom needs to shop at the confidence store, you can tell he has none. Zero.
He was such a high prospect (youngest player ever to commit to play college ice hockey, U18 captain) that just seems like he can't do anything right now. When it rains it pours. I think the Bruins believed he was one shot away from turning it around, but that hasn't happened. Sad actually.

 

[Sevendust]

It's not ALL on Sway but he is part of the team and owns some of it. If he had stopped just one of those goals...

The D has been an issue (IMO) all season which doesn't help the net minders.

Yeah but the loss is not on him when team can't defend a late period lead and can't score a empty netter ... You can't expect him to stand on his head every game

 

[HustleB]

The believability hurt more then the point for me last night. A few minutes after Toronto tied the game 3-3 last night, I told my youngest daughter, that I still thought the Bruins had this one. I told her they were playing with more fire and emotion and I thought they would still pull it off. I felt vindicated when Pasta got the next one.

But then they choked it away. Again. How many times. I mean this team has to play their best game to be in it with a team that largely didn't have their best game. We love to think we'd own them in the playoffs, but I don't even believe that anymore.

The believability hurts the most.

 

[Hookslide]

Played 20 minutes and continues to be a player that works his arse off.

I am a Coyle guy, but this has not been his best season, but I agree he does give you effort ever night, and would be a nice tool to have in your shed if this team actually had some players on this team with talent and commitment that he has.

 

[Ladyfan]

So I read Freddy has leg injury this morning.

Not surprised. Last night he was being helped down the tunnel and was limping.

He seems like a good kid, and I hope he will be OK

Yeah but the loss is not on him when team can't defend a late period lead and can't score a empty netter ... You can't expect him to stand on his head every game

It was a team loss, but he is a part of that team.

 

[Dennis Bonvie]

There’s no way Beecher is going anywhere. The guy is a staple and clearly part of our core. Rightfully so as he definitely brings the excitement and gets the crowd going.

Sarcasm, right?

 

[Hookslide]

Works his arse off and gets nothing done.

I would rather the have the player who works his ass off and does not get it done, than a lazy ass, that accomplishes even less, at least the worker has a chance at some point to be a positive. If fans are looking at Charlie Coyle, to blame this shit situation, should spend the time watch the games, and reevaluate what is going on around him.

 

[22Brad Park]

Not surprised. Last night he was being helped down the tunnel and was limping.

He seems like a good kid, and I hope he will be OK


It was a team loss, but he is a part of that team.

You would be the best person here for injury info being in those awesome seats ..Thanks, now I can believe what I read.

 

[McBrom7]

There isn't a #1C in this draft that at 18, will make that kind of impact next year.
If they get lucky and get best center in draft its going to take until at best 2026-27 before that center replaces last years Coyle impact (60pts).


That's the fairest way to look at Swayman last night. Bruins going to have to comeback next year hoping Swayman, Lindholm rebound and Pastrnak, McAvoy and Lindholm are 100% to start year.

Interesting take. I've watched a game or two of some guys at the top of the draft and have come away thinking they're really good players.

Where do you get your information on the draft? I've tried to find a few podcasts I like but have struck out.

 

[Hookslide]

Yes we need scoring badly but dont wanna pay him 12 million aav.

Don, I agree with you and Sheppy, never been the biggest Marner guy, and not wanting to give out a big contract, but let's be honest moves must be done.

Swayman sucks and I do not want to see him attempt to play again. Korposalo and DiPietro might as well take over the net.

I said previously to give Swayman a 2 year 5 mil contract to let him prove himself. Now we are stuck with this ridiculous long term deal with no real way out.

You have one year left to trade him, and should be done, he has no trade protection for another year.

 

[mjhfb]

So I read Freddy has leg injury this morning.

Wouldn't be surprised if he's out until March 7 at 2:59pm EST.

 

[Sevendust]

Not surprised. Last night he was being helped down the tunnel and was limping.

He seems like a good kid, and I hope he will be OK


It was a team loss, but he is a part of that team.

Then I can't get the talk here (not from you) that he lost the game by himself.


In the end this game doesn't matter as they showed the lack of killer instinct in a lot losses this season already. I don't see any reason why it should be different in playoff games. A great general manager sees that this team won't achieve anything this season and retools. They could be right back in the mix in the next season but they have break up the oasis of well being. Eyes towards the future Swayman, McAvoy and Pastrnak are still a great building core. The supporting cost of Zacha, Geekie and Lindholm (depending on his health) is also something to built on. Drafting in the top 5 and getting one of Misa, Hagens or Desnoyers would also do wonders for them. Donny, tank this season. This will be more helpful in the future.

 

[Ladyfan]

You would be the best person here for injury info being in those awesome seats ..Thanks, now I can believe what I read.

I just report some things I see. There are some things I would never post.

Did you see poor Sway? He got hit in the bad (for guys) spot. He came back to the bench and was telling Korpi and the guys on the bench.

 

[Hookslide]

People are high on Poitras because there's so very little else anywhere on this roster under the age of 25 to get excited about. He stands out in an extremely shallow pool.

Reality is we still have no idea what he's going to become. He's only 20. Could be anywhere from solid 2C to a career in the minors or Europe. He's a good kid to have in the mix, I hope it pans out for him. But I don't see him as one to rave about. Might be a useful piece in a competitive team, but not a game-changer.

Every time i watch that kid skate, I go to the Chiropractors, the next day.

 

[Dennis Bonvie]

If you noticed they went with 4D the last few minutes trying to hold the lead.
Zadorov, Carlo, Wotherspoon and Peake.
Zadorov fumbled the dump in leading to the tying goal with seconds left.
With their top 2 D out, are you really surprised those 4 could not shut down the Leafs late push?
Would have been nice, but I'm not.

46 seconds to be exact.

 

[Therewolf31]

So I read Freddy has leg injury this morning.

Well there goes our only trade chip (sarcasm intended)

 

[HockeyMomx2]

Onward and upward. Do we even have a shot at a decent draft pick after this nightmare of a season? Is there a potential silver lining?

 

[Ladyfan]

Lack of confidence is as crushing as confidence is a positive stimulus. Especially with a fragile team like the Bruins.

Pasta scores 30 seconds in and the B's are jacked. Dominate the Leafs for over 30 minutes. Then a shot bounces off Wotherspoon past Swayman for a fluke goal, Wahlstrom takes a bad penalty and they go to the locker room up 2 with a PK coming to start the third period. Confidence slips. Third period it's a different team.

Confidence is HUGE.

 

[BMC]

The fact Sacco can’t see he is a better center than wing should get him fired. He can’t evaluate players and realize their strengths

Yes! Charlie has never been good on the wing. He's a 3C who can play 2C temporarily.

I have no quarrel with his effort- the guy is working his ass off out there. I am ticked off by his lack of production but part of that might be because he's playing out of position.

 

[Hookslide]

There isn't a #1C in this draft that at 18, will make that kind of impact next year.
If they get lucky and get best center in draft its going to take until at best 2026-27 before that center replaces last years Coyle impact (60pts).


That's the fairest way to look at Swayman last night. Bruins going to have to comeback next year hoping Swayman, Lindholm rebound and Pastrnak, McAvoy and Lindholm are 100% to start year.

I do not want to base next season on hope.