Post-Game Talk: GAME 58 - Ducks 3 BRUINS 2 OT

[Ladyfan]

Definitely beat the Leafs .

There will be many Leaf fans (as always) at the Garden.

 

[Bruinfanatic]

I would like to think that soon we will see the last of his smug, craggy face. I’m not holding my breath because the clown should have been fired years ago.

Would be hard to imagine if they didn’t make the playoffs,and having fired 3 coaches in what 4 years,would be hard to imagine him keeping his job.

 

[LouJersey]

The two weeks off seemed to hurt Boston more than the Ducks. First period Bruins were dominated.

Rangers, Oilers and Pens never got their games going. Canes gave up 4 in the first before they got going.

Injuries aside this team seems to have a lot of going through the motions to it.

 

[Ozzy Osbourne]

From what I have seen you are a loyal fan which is more than I can say for some. We all have been pretty spoiled the last 10 years with decent teams. This season has been disappointing.

I always want a win, but clearly, they need help. Everything needs to be looked at. I shake my head at some of the coaching decisions and from where I sit (after last night) so do some of the players. Clearly, they need some help with players. The mix isn't working.

Many here were so excited about E. Lindholm. He isn't working out like some hoped (probably including Don Sweeny), but many here were so psyched to have him. I still think that MAYBE he will get better.

The chemistry on the team is off. It seems like years where it was so good.

Brad is an excellent captain. Pasta is a leader as are Mac and Charlie C. After them I don't notice much leadership which is different that the past where there are several leaders that don't have letters.

Too many good 3d and 4th line players...not enough top ones.

The D has been a concern all season. It has been many years since the Bs PK was as bad as I have seen it this season.

I will always cheer on this team. I hope something can be done.

Please beat the Leafs.

I guess you have a better view of things than I do watching on tv. I don’t see what makes Marchand an “excellent captain”. I also don’t see Pasta as a leader. I feel like he takes a lot of shifts off and makes a lot of lazy plays. I see Coyle as nothing but a passenger.
Again, I know you have a better vantage point than myself so maybe you could explain what makes you think these players have all these qualities. Thank you.

Would be hard to imagine if they didn’t make the playoffs,and having fired 3 coaches in what 4 years,would be hard to imagine him keeping his job.

Yeah, but incompetence doesn’t seem to be an issue.

 

[Trizz617]

I always want them to win ,always want them to make the playoffs,but I just don’t know ,I think I”m finally at a point where they just are better off losing and getting a lottery pick. Which is really making it difficult to watch them play.Atleast they play the Leafs next ,don’t want nothing but a win in that one. Have I become a non loyal fan or just a realist?

You can be a realist as well as a loyal fan. If anything, the rose colored glasses aren't being worn.

 

[quietbruinfan]

Showcasing TF? Must be a short highlight reel.

Indeed, but he is still getting a couple of shifts with the better players even in 12 minutes.

They aren’t showcasing him giving him the 9th most minutes of the top 9.

Still giving him three or four shifts with the better players. Other than that, I do not believe succo and company believe in him enough to give him solid time.

 

[BamBamCam]

Worst thing about last night was they got a point. The rest of the season should all be about next year and how to improve.

 

[Jorah Marshmont]

The ducks are bad but they’re only 5 points behind the Bruins with 3 games in hand

 

[Dr Hook]

Worst thing about last night was they got a point. The rest of the season should all be about next year and how to improve.

Though you know that even if that is the mentality the FO has (and it might be), they are still going to get a few points along the way. I think some of us fear that any points will give the FO an excuse to go for it insteand of look to the future but no way to know till the TDL is on us and we see what they do.

 

[Therewolf31]

Though you know that even if that is the mentality the FO has (and it might be), they are still going to get a few points along the way. I think some of us fear that any points will give the FO an excuse to go for it insteand of look to the future but no way to know till the TDL is on us and we see what they do.

How could they possibly go for it? They have very little of trade value other than Pasta.

 

[ae530]

I still think they finish around 21st to 25th place overall in the league this season. That’s what I predicted at the start of the season and it’s likely looking like that’s where they end up.

 

[Dr Hook]

How could they possibly go for it? They have very little of trade value other than Pasta.

Go for it in the sense of adding for a 'playoff run' or at least a run to get into the playoffs. It would be Sweeney doing his Stafford/Liles/Stempniak thing: getting a couple of mediocre players/depth pieces and giving away even more futures to do it. Would it truly shock you if that was the path taken here? I am against it, but will not be surprised if that is what happens.

 

[shelbysdad]

I'm pretty sure if you ask fans, they would say the Ducks are a bottom feeder......Well our records are quite similar

 

[whitetape]

How could they possibly go for it? They have very little of trade value other than Pasta.

This is the truth, although they have plenty more of trade value than just Pasta. But trading away the ones with the most value would leave holes they might have to spend years refilling. They simply can't be buyers at the TDL They probably will try the retool approach, keeping their youngish core and draft picks and seeking to add a couple more picks for TF, maybe Korpisalo, maybe Carlo, maybe even Marchand as long as he was fine with it. Brazeau and Koepke possibly could get late-round picks, allowing them to give Lysell a run. I doubt they'll go the full rebuild approach, since most of their best players are still in their prime. My fantasy move would be swapping Marchand (if he was cool with it) and Poitras to Washington for Leonard, but very unlikely the Caps would do it.

 

[Dr Quincy]

I guess you have a better view of things than I do watching on tv. I don’t see what makes Marchand an “excellent captain”. I also don’t see Pasta as a leader. I feel like he takes a lot of shifts off and makes a lot of lazy plays. I see Coyle as nothing but a passenger.
Again, I know you have a better vantage point than myself so maybe you could explain what makes you think these players have all these qualities. Thank you.


Yeah, but incompetence doesn’t seem to be an issue.

I think it's impossible for anyone to say definitively if any of the leaders on this team are good leaders or not.

I think the biggest problem is that the team just isn't talented enough. But losing to really bad teams over and over suggests that it's more than just talent. If players are shaking their heads at coaching decisions after getting 2 coaches fired (well, 1 fired and 1 not offered a contract) then that in and of itself indicates to me bad leadership.

The players aren't holding up their end and they are shaking their had at coaches? And the leaders aren't getting on them for that? Bad look.

 

[bruins4thecup65]

We need to install young skilled players and start over.

Anyone seen what Washington has done?

 

[RiverbottomChuck]

I still think they finish around 21st to 25th place overall in the league this season. That’s what I predicted at the start of the season and it’s likely looking like that’s where they end up.

That's the worst place to be, mediocrity purgatory.

 

[Kegs]

That's the worst place to be, mediocrity purgatory.

The bruins aren’t in a bad position. They have a lot of good pieces. Injuries to the defence probably ruined this season. If lindholm and McAvoy where healthy would they not have 10 more points?

 

[the negotiator]

From what I have seen you are a loyal fan which is more than I can say for some. We all have been pretty spoiled the last 10 years with decent teams. This season has been disappointing.

I always want a win, but clearly, they need help. Everything needs to be looked at. I shake my head at some of the coaching decisions and from where I sit (after last night) so do some of the players. Clearly, they need some help with players. The mix isn't working.

Many here were so excited about E. Lindholm. He isn't working out like some hoped (probably including Don Sweeny), but many here were so psyched to have him. I still think that MAYBE he will get better.

The chemistry on the team is off. It seems like years where it was so good.

Brad is an excellent captain. Pasta is a leader as are Mac and Charlie C. After them I don't notice much leadership which is different that the past where there are several leaders that don't have letters.

Too many good 3d and 4th line players...not enough top ones.

The D has been a concern all season. It has been many years since the Bs PK was as bad as I have seen it this season.

I will always cheer on this team. I hope something can be done.

Please beat the Leafs.

This is so spot-on.

Susan I would love to know which coaching decisions you are referring to where players were shaking their heads- you might need a couple of pages to list them all

I agree the chemistry has been off all season -an example is last night when Frankie V got in Sways face and how long it took for anyone to react and step in. Your point of how quickly the leadership falls off is a very good one- way too many followers and/or players who act like their aggressive steak has been neutered

The collapse of special teams is especially troubling. I see little that has changed and both have been a season-long concern. When it comes to the pk, attitude and selling -out go a long way yet we continue to play a (very)'passive zone defense.

And related to passive play- late in the game and down by a goal the Ducks were able to run 90 seconds off the clock while the Bs continued to refuse to press the points. The continual emphasis on "no mistakes" versus " make a play" goes directly to coaching - or the lack there of.

Sunday rant over.

 

[ODAAT]

Thankfully I had a choice between hitting a WHL or BCHL tilt and I chose BCHL and Boston College bound Pitka ended it in OT in what was surely a better played tilt with more entertainment value

 

[Absurdity]

 

[BamBamCam]

The bruins aren’t in a bad position. They have a lot of good pieces. Injuries to the defence probably ruined this season. If lindholm and McAvoy where healthy would they not have 10 more points?

If Swayman didn't hold out they would probably have 10 more points

 

[smithformeragent]

 

[Ladyfan]

Terrible news

 

[RiverbottomChuck]

The bruins aren’t in a bad position. They have a lot of good pieces. Injuries to the defence probably ruined this season. If lindholm and McAvoy where healthy would they not have 10 more points?

I meant in terms of the draft, the 21-25 spot usually means you weren't good enough to be a contender and not bad enough to have a chance to add talent to your roster without waiting for prospects to cook. I'm not sure how many points they would have if those two were healthy because even with those two players they still underperformed and you still have a number of holes for the forwards. Also I think they have some good pieces not a lot. They have a lot of complimentary pieces imo.