GDT: GAME 51 | Capitals @ Senators | In Honor of Shawn Edition | Thu Jan 30 2025, 7PM | TSN2, RDS5

[Tuna99]

So we're not pegging production to cap hit anymore? The moment you detach the two is the moment you start mismanaging assets. For example, trading Drake because he isn't playing up to a $

But then we’d have to trade Norris and give Timmy a raise and fire Perron to the moon.

Last season people were saying Chabot was untradebke, 50 games later all 31 teams would trade for him.

Produciton is as much about system and the players around you as salary.

 

[PlayersLtd]

But then we’d have to trade Norris and give Timmy a raise and fire Perron to the moon.

Last season people were saying Chabot was untradebke, 50 games later all 31 teams would trade for him.

Produciton is as much about system and the players around you as salary.

I don't know how this supports your original point of trading Drake because he isn't playing to top line potential at the moment. But anyway, not worth arguing.

 

[Alex1234]

Zub was hung out to dry because he was supposed to get support from Giroux. Giroux was 10 feet out of position, Chabot was challanging his man the way the play is designed, maybe a touch agressive, but the real breakdown was Giroux.

Chabot was ok following his man
Maybe Giroux has a shorter route to Mangiapane and Zub could have challenge McMichael at some point if Giroux commits to Mangiapanne but the real breakdown I see when I slow the play is Forsberg inviting McMichael to top shelf the puck over his glove
And that's exactly what he did

Anyway goals like this will happen against the second best offence in the league
Important is they found a way to win

 

[Tuna99]

I don't know how this supports your original point of trading Drake because he isn't playing to top line potential at the moment. But anyway, not worth arguing.

More like if Canucks would take Drake for Milker if do it because the production vs increased cap hit would be a no brainer - but I love Drake and in reality I want Staois to run this team into the playoffs and see what we got in this group of players

 

[JD1]

The problem is Giroux was supposed to come down on the weak side to support the play there, he didn't which meant that Zub couldn't release and challenge McMichael. Chabot was doing his job on that play in a Diamond formation by pressuring the puck carrier, we do the same thing all the time, that's the system. Maybe he got a little further out than you'd like with the 5th man getting back on and in the play, but Giroux is supposed to be at the hashmark there and instead is at the top of the circle in no mans land

I saw it live. Haven't seen a replay. What I saw was a void in the space where the LD is supposed to be and the LD at the top of the circle. There just wasn't anyone between the shooter and the goalie. 30 feet of emptiness .it was noticeable live because you literally never see that in an nhl game other than on a breakaway.

 

[SanderSen]

I saw it live. Haven't seen a replay. What I saw was a void in the space where the LD is supposed to be and the LD at the top of the circle. There just wasn't anyone between the shooter and the goalie. 30 feet of emptiness .it was noticeable live because you literally never see that in an nhl game other than on a breakaway.

Until the Chabot overtime goal!!!

 

[Big Muddy]

chabot chasing his man to the top of the circle allowed McMichael to walk out from the corner. Never should have been able to walk out like that

Ya, like a lot of goals, there were several things that happened that led to the goal.

Forsberg has played well in the last stretch & I thought he was decent in the last game.

 

[JD1]

Until the Chabot overtime goal!!!

OK. Ya you got me there but that's 3 on 3. What I mean was it was visually weird. He just walked out from the corner and there was nothing but white ice. You just don't normally see that

 

[SanderSen]

OK. Ya you got me there but that's 3 on 3. What I mean was it was visually weird. He just walked out from the corner and there was nothing but white ice. You just don't normally see that

I was totally tongue in cheek. Lots of different things went on in that game. Great one to see live.

 

[Micklebot]

I saw it live. Haven't seen a replay. What I saw was a void in the space where the LD is supposed to be and the LD at the top of the circle. There just wasn't anyone between the shooter and the goalie. 30 feet of emptiness .it was noticeable live because you literally never see that in an nhl game other than on a breakaway.

I've said my piece when it comes to breaking down the play, I agree McMichael had a ton of space, we differ a bit on why but as is often the case, when that much space is given its usually more than one thing happening that compounds into a bigger issue.

 

[ReginKarlssonLehner]

I guarantee you all if Forsberg literally stays square to the shooter, this would be a non-conversation.

Zub covered back door. It was McMichael 1on1 far left of goalie and he played it worst way possible.

If Chabot doesn't follow his guy, that guy probably has a terrific look to the net more square to Forsberg, albeit not as close.

 

[Bileur]

Batherson RW is second in scoring in Ott & if there is one thing this team needs is another good RW goal scorer/playmaker to eventually replace Giroux for their top 6.

Right now they could really use a top 6 left winger.

 

[LiseL]

No thanks! Where there's smoke for this long there is definitely some fire! Simpler to avoid both players out of caution. Rarely do we hear or know the entire story, but I suspect this is about much more than 2 guys who don't like the smell of each others' deodorant. Something happened and somebody is bitter or seriously damaged over something and it could be beyond the immediate them. It could involve spouses, or whatever. Remember the Karlsson and Mike Hoffman saga? No thanks! Don't care who may be at fault, I just don't want or need any extra bullshit fracturing a locker room.

Saw an interview this week on CIH with the guy spreading the rumour about Norris/EP. He said EP doesn't like confrontation, would go off by himself, a little bit of a loner. He also doesn't play physical, was invisible in the playoffs and his production has come way down since signing the big contract. I'm in total agreement, big No to either player. Both players could be very disruptive to the team chemistry (for different reasons) and Norris has started to come into his own. I only expect him to get better as it's been a minute since he played a full season.

 

[aragorn]

Right now they could really use a top 6 left winger.

What's wrong with Perron playing in the top six LW spot? He certainly has the experience & scoring ability. He's had a tough yr with family issues & injuries, but he's back now & we can see he is a smart player who can produce offence.

 

[Bileur]

What's wrong with Perron playing in the top six LW spot? He certainly has the experience & scoring ability. He's had a tough yr with family issues & injuries, but he's back now & we can see he is a smart player who can produce offence.

I’ll give him the benefit of the doubt given the tough situation but 1 point in 13 games isn’t what we’re looking for.

I’m concerned about the heavy boots as well.

 

[aragorn]

I’ll give him the benefit of the doubt given the tough situation but 1 point in 13 games isn’t what we’re looking for.

I’m concerned about the heavy boots as well.

The problem with offence was that it was team wide, right? Given the last game against Wash & that league wide scoring is down we do have plenty of players who can produce offence if & when they get going. We saw in the Wash game Norris play to his potential, the same can be said for Pinto & Greig who are young & will only get better.

We need more scoring from the defence & I expect that we should see more pts from Sanderson, Chabot & Jensen who are all capable of putting up more pts. By heavy boots I assume you mean bringing in a tough player? IMO this is what we need so that Tkachuk doesn't have too & every yr we see how tough the playoffs are. We'll see what they decide they need at the trade deadline, I assume they do something.

 

[Bileur]

The problem with offence was that it was team wide, right? Given the last game against Wash & that league wide scoring is down we do have plenty of players who can produce offence if & when they get going. We saw in the Wash game Norris play to his potential, the same can be said for Pinto & Greig who are young & will only get better.

We need more scoring from the defence & I expect that we should see more pts from Sanderson, Chabot & Jensen who are all capable of putting up more pts. By heavy boots I assume you mean bringing in a tough player? IMO this is what we need so that Tkachuk doesn't have too & every yr we see how tough the playoffs are. We'll see what they decide they need at the trade deadline, I assume they do something.

No, by heavy boots I mean I’m concerned that Perron isn’t fleet enough of foot to keep up in the top 6.

I definitely would like to add more physicality though.