GDT: Game 50 @ Predators 5pm

[TheBeard]

What changes are in any way realistic to actually help this team be better than the worst team in the league?

I don’t know, but talent or not, having two massive breakdowns like this in the third is unacceptable. That’s a coaching issue and a leadership issue.

 

[Hodge]

Hilarious game. Trading for Georgiev may prove to be a brilliant move if we end up with Schaefer.

 

[Star Platinum]

Hilarious game. Trading for Georgiev may prove to be a brilliant move if we end up with Schaefer.

Goal #6 was pretty brutal, but I blame the skaters (forwards and defense both) for playing appalling defense more than Georgiev tonight

 

[OrrNumber4]

One of the worst periods of Sharks's hockey I've ever watched.

Dipping into this again...

 

[StanleyCup2035]

Hilarious game. Trading for Georgiev may prove to be a brilliant move if we end up with Schaefer.

Grier is playing 3-D chess.

 

[Star Platinum]

Grier is playing 3-D chess.

What concerns me about this game is that if Grier really sucks at picking coaches, we are going to need a new GM and coach. You can't have a GM that can't tell the good coaches from the bad ones.

I get that the Sharks are not exactly a prize job for a coach right now, but frankly the last job search was less than inspiring.

 

[TheBeard]

Giving up 3rd period leads with the regularity that they are doing it this season is worse then a straight curb stomping because they are giving the games away

At least they showed up for some of it. Those game were just showing up and collecting a paycheck.

 

[coooldude]

What the f*** happened!? I watched the best period of Sharks hockey I'd seen in 5 years, and then had to stop watching and we gave up 6 straight goals!??!!?

Jesus louizus.

FWIW, Smith looked awesome in period 1 and Celebrini had one of his many "top tier, most excellent" first periods as well. Deserved a secondary on the Walman goal.

I'll read this thread tomorrow to get a sense of the emotional journey.

 

[Cas]

Darn it, so much was trending positive but that 8 game losing streak and now just finding new ways to lose means that GMMG needs to get rid if this entire staff. Bringing back many that were part of last years worst team ever is one thing, with AHL talent dressing in NHL uniforms. Right now with the talent he was Warsofsky is under F***king underachieving, if that could even be possible with a team that only got 47 points last year. The youth cannot be stunted by mismanagement and a coaching staff over their heads. Sucks they need to go again back to the coaching carousel and find someone who thinks they can fix the defense maise, compete every shift and develop the high end skill. I would say its being kind to think they got some of the compete right but everything else is D- from this team. You are what your record says you are

What talent? Every night we are at minimum icing one entire line and one defensive pairing with non-NHL quality players, and every single other line and pair is playing at least one slot too high.

I don’t know, but talent or not, having two massive breakdowns like this in the third is unacceptable. That’s a coaching issue and a leadership issue.

It's a talent issue. We were lucky to be up 5-1 in the first place, and the lack of talent proved out in the end.

 

[Anomie2029]

I'm sorry, a lack of talent doesn't cause a team to blow a 5-1 lead. That's a cop out excuse for some ridiculously horrible coaching and lineup decisions.

 

[hockeyball]

I'm sorry, a lack of talent doesn't cause a team to blow a 5-1 lead. That's a cop out excuse for some ridiculously horrible coaching and lineup decisions.

It actually does. We give up 3rd period leads because we are not that good and when better teams get desperate they beat us. It's fine, winning now does not benefit us at all.

 

[Smok3d]

I don’t know why no timeout was called in the 3rd to calm everyone down. Giving up 6 unanswered goals is simple unacceptable. JFC lol

 

[drunksage]

SNOG announcement​

A lot happened, but not a SNOG.

Spoiler: 2024-25 First-half SNOG Results

#	Date / Opponent​	SNOG Winner(s)​	Result​
1	Oct. 10 vs Blues	none	Blues 5-4 OT
2	Oct. 12 vs Ducks	none	Ducks 2-0
3	Oct. 15 at Stars	weastern bias	Stars 3-2 SO
4	Oct. 17 at Blackhawks	weastern bias	Blackhawks 4-2
5	Oct. 18 at Jets	none	Jets 8-3
6	Oct. 20 vs Avalanche	none	Avalanche 4-1
7	Oct. 22 at Ducks	Timo Time	Ducks 3-1
8	Oct. 24 at Kings	Friday	Kings 3-2
9	Oct. 26 at VGK	none	VGK 7-3
10	Oct. 28 at Utah	none	Sharks 5-4 OT
11	Oct. 29 vs Kings	MackAttack71, bluefunnel, sharks_dynasty	Sharks 4-2
12	Oct. 31 vs Blackhawks	none	Sharks 3-2
13	Nov. 2 vs Canucks	none	Canucks 3-2
14	Nov. 5 vs Blue Jackets	none	Sharks 2-1 OT
15	Nov. 7 vs Wild	timorous me	Wild 5-2
16	Nov. 10 at Devils	none	Sharks 1-0
17	Nov. 11 at Flyers	TheBigDrunkPanda	Flyers 4-3 SO
18	Nov. 14 at Rangers	none	Rangers 3-2
19	Nov. 16 at Penguins	PattyLafontaine	Penguins 4-3 SO
20	Nov. 18 vs Red Wings	none	Sharks 5-4 OT
21	Nov. 20 at Stars	weastern bias	Stars 5-2
22	Nov. 21 at Blues	bullslugg, coooldude	Blues 3-2 SO
23	Nov. 23 vs Sabres	none	Sabres 4-2
24	Nov. 25 vs Kings	none	Sharks 7-2
25	Nov. 27 vs Senators	coooldude, PattyLafontaine	Senators 4-3
26	Nov. 29 vs Kraken	none	Sharks 8-5
27	Nov. 30 at Kraken	bluefunnel	Sharks 4-2
28	Dec. 3 at Capitals	none	Sharks 2-1 OT
29	Dec. 5 at Lightning	none	Lightning 8-1
30	Dec. 7 at Panthers	none	Panthers 3-1
31	Dec. 10 at Hurricanes	Timo Time	Hurricanes 3-2
32	Dec. 12 at Blues	MackAttack71	Sharks 4-3
33	Dec. 14 vs Utah	bullslugg	Hockey Club 4-3
34	Dec. 17 vs Jets	SJSharksfan39	Jets 4-3
35	Dec. 19 vs Avalanche	anthonyyy	Avalanche 4-2
36	Dec. 21 at Oilers	PattyLafontaine	Oilers 3-2 OT
37	Dec. 23 at Canucks	Timo Time	Canucks 4-3
38	Dec. 27 vs VGK	SJSharksfan39	VGK 6-3
39	Dec. 28 vs Flames	none	Flames 3-1
40	Dec. 31 vs Flyers	none	Flyers 4-0
41	Jan. 2 vs Lightning	none	Sharks 2-1

#	Date / Opponent​	SNOG Winner(s)​	Result​
42	Jan. 4 vs Devils	LadyStanley	Sharks 3-2
43	Jan. 7 vs VGK	weastern bias	VGK 4-2
44	Jan. 10 at Utah	none	Hockey Club 2-1
45	Jan. 11 vs Wild	weastern bias	Wild 3-1
46	Jan. 14 at Red Wings	none	Sharks 6-3
47	Jan. 16 at Blue Jackets	weastern bias	Blue Jackets 4-1
48	Jan. 18 at Islanders	TheBeard	Islanders 4-1
49	Jan. 20 at Bruins	none	Bruins 6-3
50	Jan. 21 at Predators	none	Predators 7-5

Rank	2024-25 SNOG standings​	# of SNOGs
1.	weastern bias	6
T-2.	PattyLafontaine, Timo Time	3
T-4.	bluefunnel, bullslugg, coooldude, MackAttack71, SJSharksfan39	2
T-9.	anthonyyy, Friday, LadyStanley, sharks_dynasty, TheBeard, TheBigDrunkPanda, timorous me	1

 

[TheBeard]

s a talent issue. We were lucky to be up 5-1 in the first place, and the lack of talent proved out in the end.

Going up 5-1 takes talent, blowing that lead and giving up 4 in a third period to lose after doing THE EXACT same thing 2 nights earlier against two mediocre, non-playoff teams is a major fundamental issue.

 

[Anomie2029]

It actually does. We give up 3rd period leads because we are not that good and when better teams get desperate they beat us. It's fine, winning now does not benefit us at all.

3-1 lead, yeah sure. Not 5-1. This was Warsofsky not knowing what the f*** he is doing.
Call a timeout to kill momentum? Nah. Change up strategy to get more pucks on net? Nah.

I have zero doubts his response will be to put Kunin or Goodrow up in the top six again, because he is a potato with no balls to try anything that could actually impact this team.

 

[hohosaregood]

It actually does. We give up 3rd period leads because we are not that good and when better teams get desperate they beat us. It's fine, winning now does not benefit us at all.

our bottom 6 is such booty, defense doesn't have a legit tough comps pairing, and our goalie choices are leaky on the ice or leaky off the ice.

 

[TheBeard]

It actually does. We give up 3rd period leads because we are not that good and when better teams get desperate they beat us. It's fine, winning now does not benefit us at all.

a lack of talent as well as a lack of leadership and a lack of trust. Point is it's not simply "oh the players aren't good enough". These aren't "make-a-wish" recipients who have never seen ice before. You could very easily rewatch every goal and notice very obvious bad decisions, laziness or panic.

 

[OrrNumber4]

It actually does. We give up 3rd period leads because we are not that good and when better teams get desperate they beat us. It's fine, winning now does not benefit us at all.

This is a great point. Think about the Sharks back in the day; those great teams would sleepwalk through two periods against the basement teams, only to wake up in the third and win the game...and all the fans on here would rightly point out that it wasn't a sustainable strategy...

 

[YUPPY 2 7 10 11]

Great night! Celebrini 1G 1 A. Smith 1A and the Sharks lose as they are now have the upper upperhand on 1st overall.

 

[Hangemhigh]

I like how the Sharks now seem to be totally on board with suffering for Schaefer. Let the tank roll!

 

[Cas]

These aren't "make-a-wish" recipients who have never seen ice before.

About a third of every game we play features players who are pretty much as good as "Make-a-Wish" recipients would be.

 

[YUPPY 2 7 10 11]

I like how the Sharks now seem to be totally on board with suffering for Schaefer. Let the tank roll!

Schaefer stock's been dropping to 5th since world's jr, the Sharks should absolutely go for BPA (Best Player Available)if they get 1OA again, not reach for a need like defense. In a rebuild, grabbing a player with the highest upside is key, and you can always fill in defense later. Elite offensive talent, like a top-tier forward or someone with game-changing skill, is way harder to find, while defensive prospects can be found later through trade that could help the franchise down the road.

My bet Is on James Hagens. He is so fun to watch like a Celebrini 2.0. Imagine the Sharks has Celebrini centering line 1 and James Hagens centering Line 2. Smith centering line 3.

 

[hockeyCEO]

Doug Houda is a quality defense coach. The players know what they're supposed to do. They played way too soft. My guess is that they are still getting over the flu and just ran out of gas in the second period, especially after playing back to back. Zone entries became ridiculously weak. They went from the San Jose Sharks to the San Jose Marshmellows.

There is no way these losses compare to last year's 10-1 and 10-2 losses. In those games we were never in it. They were unwatchable.

Losing a lead means at least we were in it. If we were looking to make the playoffs these games would sting. They don't. It's just an embarrassment for Warsofsky.

And no way were the first five goals Georgiev's fault. We should have won 5 - 2. If I were the coach I'd tell the skaters to buy Georgiev some laundry pins because they left him out to dry.

 

[DG93]

90% of the last 3 pages is this lol...

First period was fun, the rest is good for the tank to get Schaefer. Onward!

 

[Wedontneedroads]

Hilarious armchair coaching takes in here.

What exactly would people like to see other than maybe calling a timeout? Bench the bottom two lines and run 6 forwards and 4 dmen for the last period?

1/3 of our top 6 were literal children two years ago and have never played 50 games at this level in this timeframe before. The bottom 6 is terrible and the goaltending is simply not good enough although I would really only put that 6th goal on Georgiev. Closing out games in the best league in the world is really really REALLY hard to do. Oh yea, they also played a game last night…

Shitty result, but this team is leaps and bounds better than last season. At least they are competing in these games and not getting absolutely boat raced.