GDT: GAME 5 | Lightning Strikes at the CTC | Saturday Oct 19th 2024, 1PM | SN, RDS

Masked

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I watched the game but your #1C has to be able to win a draw. Right now he has to play with wingers who can do faceoffs. Not a great long term plan.

Are there any other C in the league with <20% FO this year? Any considered top 6 F?

It's remarkably stupid to assess a player's ability based upon six games instead of the previous four seasons he's played in the league. And why his faceoff numbers aren't great over the past four years, they're very comparable to Jack Eichel, who was good enough to win a Cup.

It's also remarkably stupid to say he has to play with wingers who can do faceoffs when the winger taking the faceoffs for him is the best active player at faceoffs over the past decade.

Faceoffs are overrated. Idiots like Don Brennan used to whine about the Senators' ability at it when they were winning the President's Cup.
 

PoutineSp00nZ

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I watched the game but your #1C has to be able to win a draw. Right now he has to play with wingers who can do faceoffs. Not a great long term plan.

Are there any other C in the league with <20% FO this year? Any considered top 6 F?

Players can learn to get better on the draw.

Spezza sucked at draws when he was breaking into the league, but worked on it hard one off-season and turned into one of the best.

Give him time. Lots of other shit he does exceptionally well down the middle.
 

Nac Mac Feegle

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It's remarkably stupid to assess a player's ability based upon six games instead of the previous four seasons he's played in the league. And why his faceoff numbers aren't great over the past four years, they're very comparable to Jack Eichel, who was good enough to win a Cup.

It's also remarkably stupid to say he has to play with wingers who can do faceoffs when the winger taking the faceoffs for him is the best active player at faceoffs over the past decade.

Faceoffs are overrated. Idiots like Don Brennan used to whine about the Senators' ability at it when they were winning the President's Cup.

It depends on the makeup of the team. If you have some bloodhounds out there who will fight hard every shift to get possession back, then faceoffs aren't that big of a deal.

Norris has looked very good so far, but the concerns are more about durability and that shoulder holding up over time. We won't get a definite answer on that for a few more months yet.
 

ottawagm

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It's remarkably stupid to assess a player's ability based upon six games instead of the previous four seasons he's played in the league. And why his faceoff numbers aren't great over the past four years, they're very comparable to Jack Eichel, who was good enough to win a Cup.

It's also remarkably stupid to say he has to play with wingers who can do faceoffs when the winger taking the faceoffs for him is the best active player at faceoffs over the past decade.

Faceoffs are overrated. Idiots like Don Brennan used to whine about the Senators' ability at it when they were winning the President's Cup.
Low 40s is one thing, but <20% is a problem. He's great at everything else but needs to fix this to be considered our #1C in all situations.
 

Tuna99

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John Cooper really had the passion on the bench last night and you could feel it through the TV screen. All the accolades and all the winning and HOF players and he still looks like it’s his first 100 games in the league. Probably a big reason why they win, you need that emotion and caring in your team to create fire and Tampa always has tons of fire even when they aren’t playing well. John Cooper is impressive.
 

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