GDT: Game #45: Penguins @ Coyotes | 7:00pm (AZ) | Scripps

[VaCaps Fan]

Damn, that’s a shame. He was great on NBC.

 

[Coyotedroppings]

she really is pretty good. always enjoy her takes.

Arizona raised, Harvard grad, Olympian and we get a dumbnuck with constant repetition of the worst of locker room cliches!

 

[Jakey53]

Damn, that’s a shame. He was great on NBC.

He may come cheap now.

Yet you open the door of ignorance.

No, I left that for you.

 

[Coyotedroppings]

He may come cheap now.

If I was AM, I’d keep my money invested in Schmaltz

He may come cheap now.


No, I left that for you.

I wrote: OF not FOR

 

[Jakey53]

Never gonna happen. I was doing some business with him while he was negotiating with NBC, he told me “I’m not going to come cheap.”

He might now.

 

[Arizonatah Coyetis]

Something about Heeter's voice is like nails on a chalkboard to me.

Lindsay Fry should do color comm IMO.

 

[DustyDangler]

Never gonna happen. I was doing some business with him while he was negotiating with NBC, he told me “I’m not going to come cheap.”

"Pay him. Pay that man his money."

 

[Coyotedroppings]

"Pay him. Pay that man his money."

He’s an extremely fake human, IMO, although he doesn’t come off that way over the air and folks seem to love him.

 

[DustyDangler]

He’s an extremely fake human, IMO, although he doesn’t come off that way over the air and folks seem to love him.

Sooo...reptilian?

 

[Coyotedroppings]

Sooo...reptilian?

Extremely disingenuous.

 

[The Feckless Puck]

Lindsy Fry is excellent. Could she handle color?

Hell yes she could. She's come a long way over the past couple of years - she's one of the better color analysts around now.

 

[Coyotedroppings]

Hell yes she could. She's come a long way over the past couple of years - she's one of the better color analysts around now.

What I (not being in the biz) would call color commentary is a bit different, but I agree, she could. She seems far more intelligent than Nash, who apparently lacks a lot of the understanding of the game, beyond what his role was as a player.

 

[RollingCoyote]

Other broadcasts, you can actually learn things about the game. The Coyotes broadcasts are about cliche's and schtick. At a minimum, they need to promote Heethuis to TV as I think he is the only skilled individual in their media space.

Bullshit, other teams play by play and colour guys are just as big homers as Nash and McConnell and know nothing about the Coyotes. I’m in Canada and have to watch the games on SN Now, I have watched every single Coyote game since they started being streamed a number of years ago, NHL Live offered both broadcasts so I could watch the Coyotes feed every game. With SN Now they offer one feed, you don’t get to choose. Only one game this year has been the Coyotes broadcast so I’m forced to watch the other teams broadcast and believe me, they are all pretty much the same, homers and ignorant. Just a few examples: last night they were calling Valimaki Guenther, they said Valimaki was wearing the face shield because of the hit from Cousins. As for all the teams in general, I lost count how many times I’ve heard them say “Logan Crouse”, how many times they mix up Keller and Schmaltz, one game not to long ago, I can’t remember which one, they kept calling Ingram Logan Cooley. Multiple negative comments and just plain mistruths about the Coyotes every game. I could go on but my iPad is at 2%. I would gladly pay more money to watch the Coyotes broadcast team. Don’t bash something if you don’t know how bad the alternative is. This isn’t directed just at you DustyDangler but at all those who bash Nash and McConnell, if you all are forced to watch the other teams broadcast every game like myself (I believe a couple of other posters here are in the same boat as me) you would change your tune about Matt and Tyson.

Sorry for the long rant everyone but I needed to vent. It just pisses me off that I pay $260 dollars Canadian and am forced to listen to crap about the Coyotes every game.

 

[DustyDangler]

Bullshit, other teams play by play and colour guys are just as big homers as Nash and McConnell and know nothing about the Coyotes. I’m in Canada and have to watch the games on SN Now, I have watched every single Coyote game since they started being streamed a number of years ago, NHL Live offered both broadcasts so I could watch the Coyotes feed every game. With SN Now they offer one feed, you don’t get to choose. Only one game this year has been the Coyotes broadcast so I’m forced to watch the other teams broadcast and believe me, they are all pretty much the same, homers and ignorant. Just a few examples: last night they were calling Valimaki Guenther, they said Valimaki was wearing the face shield because of the hit from Cousins. As for all the teams in general, I lost count how many times I’ve heard them say “Logan Crouse”, how many times they mix up Keller and Schmaltz, one game not to long ago, I can’t remember which one, they kept calling Ingram Logan Cooley. Multiple negative comments and just plain mistruths about the Coyotes every game. I could go on but my iPad is at 2%. I would gladly pay more money to watch the Coyotes broadcast team. Don’t bash something if you don’t know how bad the alternative is. This isn’t directed just at you DustyDangler but at all those who bash Nash and McConnell, if you all are forced to watch the other teams broadcast every game like myself (I believe a couple of other posters here are in the same boat as me) you would change your tune about Matt and Tyson.

Sorry for the long rant everyone but I needed to vent. It just pisses me off that I pay $260 dollars Canadian and am forced to listen to crap about the Coyotes every game.

I value your opinion, I just don't share it. I get dumbererer listening to Tyson Nash, can feel my brain start to bleed a little. I am familiar with the alternatives as the alternatives are all I watch\listen to. All alternatives are not the same, it is varied. Didn't care much of anything about last night's Pens broadcast but it wasn't bad enough to make me want to listen to Nash.

Edit: Also, would love it if one of the feed options was just ice/crowd noise with no talking heads.

 

[Coyotedroppings]

Bullshit, other teams play by play and colour guys are just as big homers as Nash and McConnell and know nothing about the Coyotes. I’m in Canada and have to watch the games on SN Now, I have watched every single Coyote game since they started being streamed a number of years ago, NHL Live offered both broadcasts so I could watch the Coyotes feed every game. With SN Now they offer one feed, you don’t get to choose. Only one game this year has been the Coyotes broadcast so I’m forced to watch the other teams broadcast and believe me, they are all pretty much the same, homers and ignorant. Just a few examples: last night they were calling Valimaki Guenther, they said Valimaki was wearing the face shield because of the hit from Cousins. As for all the teams in general, I lost count how many times I’ve heard them say “Logan Crouse”, how many times they mix up Keller and Schmaltz, one game not to long ago, I can’t remember which one, they kept calling Ingram Logan Cooley. Multiple negative comments and just plain mistruths about the Coyotes every game. I could go on but my iPad is at 2%. I would gladly pay more money to watch the Coyotes broadcast team. Don’t bash something if you don’t know how bad the alternative is. This isn’t directed just at you DustyDangler but at all those who bash Nash and McConnell, if you all are forced to watch the other teams broadcast every game like myself (I believe a couple of other posters here are in the same boat as me) you would change your tune about Matt and Tyson.

Sorry for the long rant everyone but I needed to vent. It just pisses me off that I pay $260 dollars Canadian and am forced to listen to crap about the Coyotes every game.

What you’re talking about comes from us having been so irrelevant for so long, that they just don’t care to bone up for a tilt w/us.
What I’m talking about is the relentless attempts at humor, that strike on only the rare occasion. I’m talking about the idiocy of Tyson flip flopping on “how the Coyotes need to play” based on effectiveness of the moment. And the lack of almost any acknowledgement of the opposition’s game and current situation, would not have killed then to mention Fluery’s recent run to surpass Roy, as current example.
Put Todd Walsh in the mix of the broadcast and I stand by my thoughts of suicide, should this team be my only listening option.
And hey….. if you’re Tyson’s kid, we still love him, just tired of same ol’ same ol’ and good luck with your season!

 

[VaCaps Fan]

Caps announcers can be shakey.

 

[DustyDangler]

What you’re talking about comes from us having been so irrelevant for so long, that they just don’t care to bone up for a tilt w/us.
What I’m talking about is the relentless attempts at humor, that strike on only the rare occasion. I’m talking about the idiocy of Tyson flip flopping on “how the Coyotes need to play” based on effectiveness of the moment. And the lack of almost any acknowledgement of the opposition’s game and current situation, would not have killed then to mention Fluery’s recent run to surpass Roy, as current example.
Put Todd Walsh in the mix of the broadcast and I stand by my thoughts of suicide, should this team be my only listening option.
And hey….. if you’re Tyson’s kid, we still love him, just tired of same ol’ same ol’ and good luck with your season!

100% on the love. Seems like a great guy.

Caps announcers can be shakey.

When I followed MLB a bit I enjoyed the Nats broadcast.

 

[Jakey53]

What I (not being in the biz) would call color commentary is a bit different, but I agree, she could. She seems far more intelligent than Nash, who apparently lacks a lot of the understanding of the game, beyond what his role was as a player.

Make no mistake, Nash understands the game.

 

[The Feckless Puck]

And hey….. if you’re Tyson’s kid, we still love him, just tired of same ol’ same ol’ and good luck with your season!

I would 1000% want to sit next to Tyson in the stands to watch a game.

I just get tired of his broadcast shtick because it is so repetitive - and that's likely because of the production team egging him on to have "Nashisms."

 

[DustyDangler]

I would 1000% want to sit next to Tyson in the stands to watch a game.

I just get tired of his broadcast shtick because it is so repetitive - and that's likely because of the production team egging him on to have "Nashisms."

This is likely the core issue. They seem to want the broadcasts dumbed down.

 

[Foggy1097]

This is likely the core issue. They seem to want the broadcasts dumbed down.

I don’t know if it’s that necessarily, maybe a bit. I think it’s more about people seeing the success of guys like Biz, and trying to recreate some of that. The problem is that Biz is too unique and does it so much better and more authentically than anyone else, so when people try to copy it just comes off cringey and weird.

 

[The Feckless Puck]

I don’t know if it’s that necessarily, maybe a bit. I think it’s more about people seeing the success of guys like Biz, and trying to recreate some of that. The problem is that Biz is too unique and does it so much better and more authentically than anyone else, so when people try to copy it just comes off cringey and weird.

It's not a "dumbing-down" thing. If you've ever had a broadcast gig, you quickly find that if you're on the air, having a small set of repeating catchphrases and statements helps you to be quicker on the microphone when they point to you. Trying to think of something intelligent and cogent on the spur of the moment at the pace that broadcasts go is an exceptionally rare skill, so a "Holy Jumpin'!" or a "pepperoni pizza" serves as a ready-made crutch in a high-pressure, high-paced environment.

IIRC, Tyson had it pretty rough when he first started doing color commentary, and his natural ease with talking and chirping was nowhere to be found. It took him a while to find his groove, and it wasn't until he got his shorthand down that he started to sound at ease.

Lyndsey Fry had the same issues when she started, and she's adopted a couple of shorthand crutches of her own now, but she plays it straight and not the "dressing room jester" that Nash sometimes tries to be.

 

[JasonDemersWasOkay]

I think we’re all thinking way too much about this. It’s TV, Nash’s job is to entertain and add flavor to the broadcast. You can dislike his style, but I wouldn’t say he’s bad at it.

 

[Fyreman]

He’s got us both beat, when it comes to CRS!


Did you miss Keller’s the other night?

Enjoying a cigar outside, saw rhe replay. You are correct sir, thanx.

 

[cobra427]

I think we’re all thinking way too much about this. It’s TV, Nash’s job is to entertain and add flavor to the broadcast. You can dislike his style, but I wouldn’t say he’s bad at it.

I agree, its entertainment to the main mass audience, Nash is fine. 10% of the watchers are hard core like most of us and we want to know the ins and outs, have players called out on both teams, question coaching decisions in game, stuff like that. The main watchers aren't interested in critical thoughts. Nash knows the game well, he could be that guy, but his job as a more cheerful announcer is more important.