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Low Effort GDT Game 4 | Why has God forsaken us! - Sens vs Devils - 7PM EST on TSN

Thought the team was fine. Same with Forsberg and that's about what I expect from him. On to the next one, but not time to panic. I see positive signs and really, we can't gauge this team without Ullmark healthy. Without him, it will of course be rough and I expect that.
 
I like what I am seeing. Team needs to just keep at .500 through 20 games and starting playing rather than thinking
 
Perron prefers RW so its good they put him back there
 
They need to find someone for Stutzle to play with. Put Tkachuk-Norris-Batherson back together, that line works for a lot of reasons. Pinto-Amadio is a good duo, maybe give them Greig when he's healthy again. Stutzle-Giroux and maybe a grinder? Perron playing around the same TOI as Gregor and Cousins but paid way more than that so it's kind of tough to slot him when he's not producing offense. Maybe you gotta move him up with Stutzle-Giroux and see if he can handle some 5on5 minutes with those guys? Otherwise I see Perron going to the 4th line with Cousins and Mac.
 
BankStreetParade said:
They need to find someone for Stutzle to play with. Put Tkachuk-Norris-Batherson back together, that line works for a lot of reasons. Pinto-Amadio is a good duo, maybe give them Greig when he's healthy again. Stutzle-Giroux and maybe a grinder? Perron playing around the same TOI as Gregor and Cousins but paid way more than that so it's kind of tough to slot him when he's not producing offense. Maybe you gotta move him up with Stutzle-Giroux and see if he can handle some 5on5 minutes with those guys? Otherwise I see Perron going to the 4th line with Cousins and Mac.
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I wanna see Greig and Stutzle together.

Have we ever seen that?

I agree with Tkachuk-Norris-Batherson together.
 
GCK said:
I like what I am seeing. Team needs to just keep at .500 through 20 games and starting playing rather than thinking
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That's a minimal objective. A .500 record would mean 20 points in 20 games. A playoff pace (96 points after 82 games) requires the team to have 23.4 points after 20 games. After the 20 games though, this team better start performing at a better than playoff level pace to get back into the race.
 
Cosmix said:
That's a minimal objective. A .500 record would mean 20 points in 20 games. A playoff pace (96 points after 82 games) requires the team to have 23.4 points after 20 games. After the 20 games though, this team better start performing at a better than playoff level pace to get back into the race.
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I think the point is they are in it and they've had time to assimilate the systems and structure the coaches are looking for.
 
BankStreetParade said:
They need to find someone for Stutzle to play with. Put Tkachuk-Norris-Batherson back together, that line works for a lot of reasons. Pinto-Amadio is a good duo, maybe give them Greig when he's healthy again. Stutzle-Giroux and maybe a grinder? Perron playing around the same TOI as Gregor and Cousins but paid way more than that so it's kind of tough to slot him when he's not producing offense. Maybe you gotta move him up with Stutzle-Giroux and see if he can handle some 5on5 minutes with those guys? Otherwise I see Perron going to the 4th line with Cousins and Mac.
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I’d flip Giroux and Batherson, G doesn’t look like belongs on top line yet this year.
 
Sens of Anarchy said:
I think the point is they are in it and they've had time to assimilate the systems and structure the coaches are looking for.
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They need to work at it some more:

GP. GF. GA.
4. 13. 15

Yes, the goaltending has been very poor again. Hopefully Ullmark is healthy and ready to play.

GF% 51.8%
HDF%. 47.3%
SCF%. 50.6%

Worst +/- in 4 games:
Norris -3
Pinto -4
Chabot -5
Perron -3
 
BankStreetParade said:
They need to find someone for Stutzle to play with. Put Tkachuk-Norris-Batherson back together, that line works for a lot of reasons. Pinto-Amadio is a good duo, maybe give them Greig when he's healthy again. Stutzle-Giroux and maybe a grinder? Perron playing around the same TOI as Gregor and Cousins but paid way more than that so it's kind of tough to slot him when he's not producing offense. Maybe you gotta move him up with Stutzle-Giroux and see if he can handle some 5on5 minutes with those guys? Otherwise I see Perron going to the 4th line with Cousins and Mac.
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Stutzle is doing excellent at this time; I would leave him on the line he is currently on. His other line-mates will have to pick ups their game. Tkachuk has 6 assists but 0 goals.

Perron and Amadio need to provide more offensively than they are now: 0 points after 4 games.

We also need more offence from Pinto and Giroux.
 
Cosmix said:
Stutzle is doing excellent at this time; I would leave him on the line he is currently on. His other line-mates will have to pick ups their game. Tkachuk has 6 assists but 0 goals.

Perron and Amadio need to provide more offensively than they are now: 0 points after 4 games.

We also need more offence from Pinto and Giroux.
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Brady has 1 goal 5 assists, they changed the one last night from G to Brady
I agree leave line alone or flip Batherson and Giroux,
 
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Micklebot said:
Not quite a wash, we were supposed to beat the Habs....

The idea of games you need to win though, hockey isn't really like that, any team can beat any team on a given night, that's just the fun of hockey. You can get outplayed severely and still come away with the win or vice versa.

Good teams will lose games they "should" win.

Relying on bounces to me is getting outplayed and hoping for the double deflection own goal to sneak one past the goalie, not creating chances and expecting that some of them go post in rather than post out. I don't think we were relying on bounces to try and win that game, we were creating a lot of chances, eventually those go in.

If we play the rest of the season the way we played NJD last night, we should win a lot more games than we lose. I didn't like the way we played once NJ started to play a prevent game, we need to find a way to break through their defense without giving up as much as we did, but outside of that, it was a very well played game imo.

The trick is to play the way we did last night consistently, we didn't do that against the Habs, and we only managed to do it for one period against Florida. The game against LA was a bit loose at times, I think they cleaned that up against NJD.
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We do not seem to have the offensive talent to break through teams that can play a solid defensive game when they are ahead in the score. We also don't appear to have the defensive talent to play a solid defensive game similar to NJ's. Hopefully Green will turn the team around; but he has only been the coach since the summer and needs more time to get the players playing his way which presumably is a stronger defensive game. Plus Ullmark has been injured and the other Gs just are not good enough.

Golden_Jet said:
Brady has 1 goal 5, they changed the one last night from G to Brady
I agree leave line alone or flip Batherson and Giroux,
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The stat sheet I looked at must not have been updated.

Blotto71 said:
I might consider flipping Giroux and Amadio. Timmy needs someone that can keep up!
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Peterka would have been nice. Alas.
 
Cosmix said:
We do not seem to have the offensive talent to break through teams that can play a solid defensive game when they are ahead in the score. We also don't appear to have the defensive talent to play a solid defensive game similar to NJ's. Hopefully Green will turn the team around; but he has only been the coach since the summer and needs more time to get the players playing his way which presumably is a stronger defensive game. Plus Ullmark has been injured and the other Gs just are not good enough.


The stat sheet I looked at must not have been updated.


Peterka would have been nice. Alas.
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What about Xavier bourgault
 
Cosmix said:
They need to work at it some more:

GP. GF. GA.
4. 13. 15

Yes, the goaltending has been very poor again. Hopefully Ullmark is healthy and ready to play.

GF% 51.8%
HDF%. 47.3%
SCF%. 50.6%

Worst +/- in 4 games:
Norris -3
Pinto -4
Chabot -5
Perron -3
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I think he said 20 games if I am following along
 
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