Game 4 why Has God Forsaken Us Sens vs Devils 7pm EST on Tsn

[BonHoonLayneCornell]

Thought the team was fine. Same with Forsberg and that's about what I expect from him. On to the next one, but not time to panic. I see positive signs and really, we can't gauge this team without Ullmark healthy. Without him, it will of course be rough and I expect that.

 

[Gil Gunderson]

Looks like a line change coming. Alfie in for Pinto
I don't mind Amadio moving up with Stu.
Giroux on LW with Norris and Batherson
Greig would offer more flexibility. Tkachuk has to get going.

Practice has been over for like an hour and still no word on Chabot or Pinto.

 

[Sens of Anarchy]

Practice has been over for like an hour and still no word on Chabot or Pinto.

prove it

 

[Gil Gunderson]

prove it

"Maintenance days" :/

 

[GCK]

I like what I am seeing. Team needs to just keep at .500 through 20 games and starting playing rather than thinking

 

[swiftwin]

I'm sure this will trigger some people:

 

[SpezDispenser]

I like what I am seeing. Team needs to just keep at .500 through 20 games and starting playing rather than thinking

That is a tough first 20!

 

[HSF]

Perron prefers RW so its good they put him back there

 

[Sens of Anarchy]

 

[Blotto71]

I'm sure this will trigger some people:

He's not wrong...I'm not sure that the mistakes/issues don't out weigh the good last night. But I do support Green taking a positive approach instead of shitting on the team publicly.

 

[bicboi64]

Nice to see Forsberg show he can still give the team a chance to win

 

[BankStreetParade]

They need to find someone for Stutzle to play with. Put Tkachuk-Norris-Batherson back together, that line works for a lot of reasons. Pinto-Amadio is a good duo, maybe give them Greig when he's healthy again. Stutzle-Giroux and maybe a grinder? Perron playing around the same TOI as Gregor and Cousins but paid way more than that so it's kind of tough to slot him when he's not producing offense. Maybe you gotta move him up with Stutzle-Giroux and see if he can handle some 5on5 minutes with those guys? Otherwise I see Perron going to the 4th line with Cousins and Mac.

 

[Agent Zub]

They need to find someone for Stutzle to play with. Put Tkachuk-Norris-Batherson back together, that line works for a lot of reasons. Pinto-Amadio is a good duo, maybe give them Greig when he's healthy again. Stutzle-Giroux and maybe a grinder? Perron playing around the same TOI as Gregor and Cousins but paid way more than that so it's kind of tough to slot him when he's not producing offense. Maybe you gotta move him up with Stutzle-Giroux and see if he can handle some 5on5 minutes with those guys? Otherwise I see Perron going to the 4th line with Cousins and Mac.

I wanna see Greig and Stutzle together.

Have we ever seen that?

I agree with Tkachuk-Norris-Batherson together.

 

[BonHoonLayneCornell]

Time to bring in Hoffman, obviously. Put him on the top line with Brady.

 

[Cosmix]

I like what I am seeing. Team needs to just keep at .500 through 20 games and starting playing rather than thinking

That's a minimal objective. A .500 record would mean 20 points in 20 games. A playoff pace (96 points after 82 games) requires the team to have 23.4 points after 20 games. After the 20 games though, this team better start performing at a better than playoff level pace to get back into the race.

 

[Sens of Anarchy]

That's a minimal objective. A .500 record would mean 20 points in 20 games. A playoff pace (96 points after 82 games) requires the team to have 23.4 points after 20 games. After the 20 games though, this team better start performing at a better than playoff level pace to get back into the race.

I think the point is they are in it and they've had time to assimilate the systems and structure the coaches are looking for.

 

[Golden_Jet]

They need to find someone for Stutzle to play with. Put Tkachuk-Norris-Batherson back together, that line works for a lot of reasons. Pinto-Amadio is a good duo, maybe give them Greig when he's healthy again. Stutzle-Giroux and maybe a grinder? Perron playing around the same TOI as Gregor and Cousins but paid way more than that so it's kind of tough to slot him when he's not producing offense. Maybe you gotta move him up with Stutzle-Giroux and see if he can handle some 5on5 minutes with those guys? Otherwise I see Perron going to the 4th line with Cousins and Mac.

I’d flip Giroux and Batherson, G doesn’t look like belongs on top line yet this year.

 

[Cosmix]

I think the point is they are in it and they've had time to assimilate the systems and structure the coaches are looking for.

They need to work at it some more:

GP. GF. GA.
4. 13. 15

Yes, the goaltending has been very poor again. Hopefully Ullmark is healthy and ready to play.

GF% 51.8%
HDF%. 47.3%
SCF%. 50.6%

Worst +/- in 4 games:
Norris -3
Pinto -4
Chabot -5
Perron -3

 

[Cosmix]

They need to find someone for Stutzle to play with. Put Tkachuk-Norris-Batherson back together, that line works for a lot of reasons. Pinto-Amadio is a good duo, maybe give them Greig when he's healthy again. Stutzle-Giroux and maybe a grinder? Perron playing around the same TOI as Gregor and Cousins but paid way more than that so it's kind of tough to slot him when he's not producing offense. Maybe you gotta move him up with Stutzle-Giroux and see if he can handle some 5on5 minutes with those guys? Otherwise I see Perron going to the 4th line with Cousins and Mac.

Stutzle is doing excellent at this time; I would leave him on the line he is currently on. His other line-mates will have to pick ups their game. Tkachuk has 6 assists but 0 goals.

Perron and Amadio need to provide more offensively than they are now: 0 points after 4 games.

We also need more offence from Pinto and Giroux.

 

[Golden_Jet]

Stutzle is doing excellent at this time; I would leave him on the line he is currently on. His other line-mates will have to pick ups their game. Tkachuk has 6 assists but 0 goals.

Perron and Amadio need to provide more offensively than they are now: 0 points after 4 games.

We also need more offence from Pinto and Giroux.

Brady has 1 goal 5 assists, they changed the one last night from G to Brady
I agree leave line alone or flip Batherson and Giroux,

 

[Blotto71]

Brady has 1 goal 5, they changed the one last night from G to Brady
I agree leave line alone or flip Batherson and Giroux,

I might consider flipping Giroux and Amadio. Timmy needs someone that can keep up!

 

[Cosmix]

Not quite a wash, we were supposed to beat the Habs....

The idea of games you need to win though, hockey isn't really like that, any team can beat any team on a given night, that's just the fun of hockey. You can get outplayed severely and still come away with the win or vice versa.

Good teams will lose games they "should" win.

Relying on bounces to me is getting outplayed and hoping for the double deflection own goal to sneak one past the goalie, not creating chances and expecting that some of them go post in rather than post out. I don't think we were relying on bounces to try and win that game, we were creating a lot of chances, eventually those go in.

If we play the rest of the season the way we played NJD last night, we should win a lot more games than we lose. I didn't like the way we played once NJ started to play a prevent game, we need to find a way to break through their defense without giving up as much as we did, but outside of that, it was a very well played game imo.

The trick is to play the way we did last night consistently, we didn't do that against the Habs, and we only managed to do it for one period against Florida. The game against LA was a bit loose at times, I think they cleaned that up against NJD.

We do not seem to have the offensive talent to break through teams that can play a solid defensive game when they are ahead in the score. We also don't appear to have the defensive talent to play a solid defensive game similar to NJ's. Hopefully Green will turn the team around; but he has only been the coach since the summer and needs more time to get the players playing his way which presumably is a stronger defensive game. Plus Ullmark has been injured and the other Gs just are not good enough.

Brady has 1 goal 5, they changed the one last night from G to Brady
I agree leave line alone or flip Batherson and Giroux,

The stat sheet I looked at must not have been updated.

I might consider flipping Giroux and Amadio. Timmy needs someone that can keep up!

Peterka would have been nice. Alas.

 

[Cosmix]

I might consider flipping Giroux and Amadio. Timmy needs someone that can keep up!

Should have kept Joseph then.

 

[Burrowsaurus]

We do not seem to have the offensive talent to break through teams that can play a solid defensive game when they are ahead in the score. We also don't appear to have the defensive talent to play a solid defensive game similar to NJ's. Hopefully Green will turn the team around; but he has only been the coach since the summer and needs more time to get the players playing his way which presumably is a stronger defensive game. Plus Ullmark has been injured and the other Gs just are not good enough.


The stat sheet I looked at must not have been updated.


Peterka would have been nice. Alas.

What about Xavier bourgault

 

[Sens of Anarchy]

They need to work at it some more:

GP. GF. GA.
4. 13. 15

Yes, the goaltending has been very poor again. Hopefully Ullmark is healthy and ready to play.

GF% 51.8%
HDF%. 47.3%
SCF%. 50.6%

Worst +/- in 4 games:
Norris -3
Pinto -4
Chabot -5
Perron -3

I think he said 20 games if I am following along