GDT: Game 31/82 Blues @ Stars 7PM CST FDSNMW

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The way The Blues were skating and playing this game, not good at keeping the puck on their sticks, or getting time with possession in The O-Zone, they were lucky to get a point out of it. I hope Fowler can integrate himself into our defensive pairings quickly, andThe Blues' play in their own zone will tighten up, and their Neutral Zone and O-Zone play will improve.
 

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I think a game like tonight is exactly why Army wants to push us to be competitive and make the playoffs. Make no mistake, the Stars play playoff-style hockey and we clearly do not (yet). They win puck battles, they use their frames to shield the puck extremely well, they play with poise and confidence, and they run that slight interference-that-isn't-quite-a-penalty that you see in the playoffs. It's big-boy hockey the likes of which we played at our best, and we need to play against on a consistent basis so that all of our young players have a true measuring stick for what winning hockey looks like.

The Stars did an incredible job throwing slight interference though all aspects of the game. I think that's why Thomas was so pissed off at that one call, they've been chipping us all game and the one time we try it you call us on it? He was also visibly upset with the linesman all game, most noticeably after he lost the final face-off to Duchene.

The Dallas Stars might have some detractors on this board, but they are the odds-on favorite (Possibly second to the Panthers) to win the Stanley Cup. They are a battle hardened team that has made back to back Western Conference Finals and who's core is a great blend of players mostly in their primes, supplemented by older, still viable vets and younger guys with great skill who can win matchups down the lineup card. I'd love to see us play them ten more times this season, and I can totally understand why Army doesn't want to pull the plug and sink to the bottom, b/c man once you do that it's hard to build a culture back up again to play the right way and win in this league.
 

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what'd you guys think of fowler?

He's 33 years old. He'll be 34 next year. He should not be in our future plans beyond that, and hoepfully isn't until then. No shade on Fowler. He's a good D but he is aged outside our core's competitive window.

*Note - I am in the minority for this viewpoint. Everyone else loves him.
 

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He's 33 years old. He'll be 34 next year. He should not be in our future plans beyond that, and hoepfully isn't until then. No shade on Fowler. He's a good D but he is aged outside our core's competitive window.

*Note - I am in the minority for this viewpoint. Everyone else loves him.
I don't think anyone is disputing this. But he is clearly better than guys like peru and POJ. He makes us a better team over the next 2 years. That, at reasonable cost, seems like a good thing.
 

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At least this team is watchable and not getting blown out with hard to watch goals against….just need to find some offense while keeping the defensive structure.
The structure is definitely much improved but the execution and decision-making in every facet when they have the puck in either zone is horrid and it leads to a lack of possession. Its brutal to watch at times.

They need to simplify their game in the Ozone and stop panicking when they have time and space in the Dzone. They flub so many passes and clear attempts.. then they finally get in the Ozone and they fan on shots or force low % passes through everyone looking for a highlight reel goal instead of being patient or just putting the puck on net. Of course the puck rarely gets on goal.

Hopefully Montgomery will coach this out of those that are willing to make changes. Some wont and those are the players we need gone no matter who they are.
 

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He's 33 years old. He'll be 34 next year. He should not be in our future plans beyond that, and hoepfully isn't until then. No shade on Fowler. He's a good D but he is aged outside our core's competitive window.

*Note - I am in the minority for this viewpoint. Everyone else loves him.

No amount of crying about his age is going to change the fact that he's better than all of our other options and chances are, we won't be keeping him past next year anyway.
 
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Faulk is so useless. He is an offensive defenseman that can’t QB a powerplay, and can’t play defense. Someone on this board got mad at me for saying he sucks just 2 weeks ago, but I’d love to hear what he brings to this team.

Should have had Broberg out there instead of him.

Anyone can say a player "sucks" but I'd like to hear what you'd do about it. You gonna scratch him and play Kessel? Play Parayko and Broberg 30 mins a night? You wanna trade him? To where and who for?

It wasn't a great play by Faulk but Thomas also let Duchene walk right by him. But no one will call out Thomas because he's our guy. I'm willing to bet most guys will get walked from time to time in 3 on 3 gimmick hockey. But at least Faulk was the one who got beat so at least it proved to everyone that you were right by saying that Faulk "sucks" a week ago. I guess Monty must be an idiot for playing him 25 mins a game because clearly he's a terrible hockey player.

Should have had Broberg out there? Who knows what would have happened but if he had been the one getting beat I guarantee people would have let it slide. There were plenty of reasons why only got 1 point tonight and Faulk may have been one of them but there is plenty of blame to go around. We got beat by a clearly better team. We could blame our offense for only getting 16 shots all game but then we couldn't scapegoat one player we already decided we don't like.
 
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Anyone can say a player "sucks" but I'd like to hear what you'd do about it. You gonna scratch him and play Kessel? Play Parayko and Broberg 30 mins a night? You wanna trade him? To where and who for?

It wasn't a great play by Faulk but Thomas also let Duchene walk right by him. But no one will call out Thomas because he's our guy. I'm willing to bet most guys will get walked from time to time in 3 on 3 gimmick hockey. But at least Faulk was the one who got beat so at least it proved to everyone that you were right by saying that Faulk "sucks" a week ago. I guess Monty must be an idiot for playing him 25 mins a game because clearly he's a terrible hockey player.

Should have had Broberg out there? Who knows what would have happened but if he had been the one getting beat I guarantee people would have let it slide. There were plenty of reasons why only got 1 point tonight and Faulk may have been one of them but there is plenty of blame to go around. We got beat by a clearly better team. We could blame our offense for only getting 16 shots all game but then we couldn't scapegoat one player we already decided we don't like.
There you are. :laugh:

I doubt you want to hear what I would do because that’s going to make you complain even more. First, I would have never traded for him in the first place since he wasn’t needed. Therefore it’s not my job to figure what to do with him now, but yes, I’d happily move him for any late draft pick the team could get. Simply removing his contract would be a win, so that we can use that space to bring in a different player, or just play our younger guys for the time being.

Love how you ask me that question because even you know deep down that it will be hard to trade Faulk to anyone (because he sucks), and then you go on to bring up the fact that Faulk played 25 mins as a way to try to flex for him and act like he’s good, in a game that the Blues lost and got absolutely dominated. Like, that sums up our entire problem and why we aren’t a good team - because Faulk is supposed to be one of our “top” defenseman. And that’s a big reason why our defense has been atrocious for years now. Montgomery can only play the roster he’s been dealt. Yet you don’t realize any of this.

I would have preferred Broberg out there, whose size and skating would have made it harder for Duchene to beat. You honestly don’t know why Thomas doesn’t get scapegoated as much as Faulk? It’s not because Thomas is over a PPG and clearly our best player by a mile? You think him and Faulk are equal? You think a young guy like Broberg making mistakes is the same as Faulk - they aren’t judged differently whatsoever? Interesting mindset you got there, when we both know my criticism of Faulk is based on more than just one play, so don’t act dense.

Literally nobody said we lost the game because of one player. But you are so predictable that you will always come crying if someone criticizes any Blues player besides Kyrou. You’re fine doing it to Kyrou, but everyone else is off limits. Very typical.
 
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I don't think anyone is disputing this. But he is clearly better than guys like peru and POJ. He makes us a better team over the next 2 years. That, at reasonable cost, seems like a good thing.
Sure he is better than those two. And yes we will likely be better this year and next as a result.

My question is why is that needed? The team this year isn’t built well enough, even with his addition, that we should be focused on the playoffs. Let’s instead focus on developing talent, building good habits and treat structure, while keeping assets for bigger needs.

Now if Army is able to recoup a second or better this year or next and not gain lose too much in draft position, then all good and the trade isn’t too big of a deal.
 

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She launched her own bit-type coin and got busted for defrauding people out of 500M


Let's be fair here, there is no way she did anything other than advertise it and let her name be used. Have you seen her posts and shit? She's dumb as f***.
Faulk is so useless. He is an offensive defenseman that can’t QB a powerplay, and can’t play defense. Someone on this board got mad at me for saying he sucks just 2 weeks ago, but I’d love to hear what he brings to this team.

Should have had Broberg out there instead of him.

He was our best Dman the year before last and last year he played injured most of the time and it seems he still having issues because you don't go from being our best dman one year to making terrible decisions the next without there being an underlying issue. I would suspect pain might have something to do with that but that's just my opinion. We'll prolly never know until it gets to the point of us having to put him on LTIR because look at Leddy, he's hurt to f***ing bad he's been on LTIR for all but 4 games and they tried to make him play with that injury what ever it is.
 

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Sure he is better than those two. And yes we will likely be better this year and next as a result.

My question is why is that needed? The team this year isn’t built well enough, even with his addition, that we should be focused on the playoffs. Let’s instead focus on developing talent, building good habits and treat structure, while keeping assets for bigger needs.

Now if Army is able to recoup a second or better this year or next and not gain lose too much in draft position, then all good and the trade isn’t too big of a deal.
It’s needed because we don’t want to be Sabres. We are trying to create conditions to allow our young players to grow. It’s not about whether we make playoffs this year, it’s about growing younger players and building towards contention. All the stuff you mention.
 

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Let's be fair here, there is no way she did anything other than advertise it and let her name be used. Have you seen her posts and shit? She's dumb as f***.


He was our best Dman the year before last and last year he played injured most of the time and it seems he still having issues because you don't go from being our best dman one year to making terrible decisions the next without there being an underlying issue. I would suspect pain might have something to do with that but that's just my opinion. We'll prolly never know until it gets to the point of us having to put him on LTIR because look at Leddy, he's hurt to f***ing bad he's been on LTIR for all but 4 games and they tried to make him play with that injury what ever it is.
Her content is awful and targets dumbasses who fall for this stuff. As far as intent? Who knows?
 

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