GDT: Game 21: Red Wings at isles 7:30 pm et 11/25/24

[dalem177]

If it's shine..ithink you should have it with some fries and gravy.

It's 123 proof. I could probably run a lawnmower with it.

 

[Winger98]

It's 123 proof. I could probably run a lawnmower with it.

I now have a new liquor to look for

 

[Gniwder]

It's 123 proof. I could probably run a lawnmower with it.

You'll have to preheat the fuel for anything less than 150 proof. Too much water to evaporate in the carb.

Would be interesting to make your own whiskey with it...

 

[dalem177]

I now have a new liquor to look for

Work buddy brought me a bottle back from his Ireland trip a few years back. I've never had occasion to open it.

 

[SoupGuru]

Petry had a good game. Taking that penalty woke Larkin up.

That play where Chiarot took the puck carrier below his goal line and Larkin followed him leaving the Islander wide open in the slot for a glorious scoring chance... did anyone else see the look Chiarot have to Larkin after the save and whistle? Kind of a "dude, what are you doing?" look.

 

[GMR]

Didn’t even know they were playing tonight. The NHL does Monday games during football season?

 

[Gniwder]

Petry had a good game. Taking that penalty woke Larkin up.

That play where Chiarot took the puck carrier below his goal line and Larkin followed him leaving the Islander wide open in the slot for a glorious scoring chance... did anyone else see the look Chiarot have to Larkin after the save and whistle? Kind of a "dude, what are you doing?" look.

Chiarot likes to chase the puck carrier. He was on the half boards for both of the goals against.

I missed the play but, seems like nobody is on the same page as Chiarot.

 

[Winged Wheel Willy]

Petry had a good game. Taking that penalty woke Larkin up.

That play where Chiarot took the puck carrier below his goal line and Larkin followed him leaving the Islander wide open in the slot for a glorious scoring chance... did anyone else see the look Chiarot have to Larkin after the save and whistle? Kind of a "dude, what are you doing?" look.

Yup, just saw that in the highlights. I was taught that, if the puck is below the goal line, generally a F goes there so the D can cover the slot. But on that play Chiarot was closer to the puck than Larkin and tried to put pressure on it. That is fine. But Larkin just followed Chiarot to the boards and left the slot unattended. Rare bad defensive play by Cap.

 

[Oddbob]

Chiarot likes to chase the puck carrier. He was on the half boards for both of the goals against.

I missed the play but, seems like nobody is on the same page as Chiarot.

That's cause he doesn't adjust to his teammates, he just plays his game like he said once in an interview. Turns out his game matches no one else in the game. Hate Chia's plays with the puck, as they are almost all garbage.

 

[14ari13]

Did anyone notice the defencemen outscored the forwards 6 to 4?
I believe it happens once in 100 maybe even 1000 games. Did Daniels get it? He should have, that is his job. Did Mickey Redmond get it? I was watching the NYI feed.
They said Petry is really good defensively.

However Lyon, Seider and Edvidsson (Larkin) won this game.

I am glad we won, but I was hoping for the loss so Yzerman gets forced to replace Lalonde.

 

[SoupGuru]

I was surprised to see Petry on the power play. I was scratching my head and then someone passed it to him and he cranked it on net, the puck was retrieved, passed to him again and BOOM back to the net. It was refreshing.

 

[Henkka]

Those hockey-terrorists (featuring Locked on Red Wings podcast Brian Fisher) are beaten again!

Gotta love Patrick Roy's face and empty eyes after this kind of "losing the lead" -losses.

 

[Winger98]

That's cause he doesn't adjust to his teammates, he just plays his game like he said once in an interview. Turns out his game matches no one else in the game. Hate Chia's plays with the puck, as they are almost all garbage.

I see all of the D chasing a fair bit. I think it is the defensive coverage the Wings try to play, but during any sort of extended pressure they can't maintain it, guys lose track of who they are supposed to be on and we end up with multiple guys taking one guy, or someone just lost in space resulting in stuff like Petry being stuck in no man's land with two guys to defend next to the net.

Considering this has been happening for two years, maybe Fester should be looking to change it to something his guys can actually handle.

 

[izlez]

It also means the team is 6-10-2 against the other teams.

We're also 0-3-0 against the rangers

Overall, we're 4-4-0 against New York teams and 5-6-2 against non New York teams.

What does it all mean?

 

[Henkka]

We're also 0-3-0 against the rangers

Overall, we're 4-4-0 against New York teams and 5-6-2 against non New York teams.

What does it all mean?

Think I got 5-4-0 against "New York" teams. If Devils is the rival of the Rangers, it has to be included, then though they are from New Jersey.

Rangers 0-3-0
Buffalo 1-1-0
Devils 1-0-0
Islanders 3-0-0

New York is pretty good for the Wings, until Devils will blow us up on last 2 games.

Hey, it's only one game against Calgary, and then we are gonna face the next New York team again!

 

[izlez]

Think I got 5-4-0 against New York teams.

Rangers 0-3-0
Buffalo 1-1-0
Devils 1-0-0
Islanders 3-0-0

New York is pretty good for the Wings, until Devils will blow us up on last 2 games.

Hey, it's only one game against Calgary, and then we are gonna face the next New York team again!

I had to look up where the Devils played. Turns out that New Jersey team actually plays in New Jersey.


Anyways, I hope we keep Johansson and Holl together and give them a chance to work on some chemistry. Let the other 3 losers fight for a roster spot and play whoever is playing best

 

[PelagicJoe]

The defense actually had a good game this time. I was glad to see Petry knocking people down and away from the goalie. Edvinsson looked good. Chiarot hit people. Seider scored. Good game, boys.

 

[Henkka]

This is pretty interesting graph taken from Natural stat trick. 10-game rolling Corsi% (all situations) average.

 

[datsyukfan]

Where is this game the first 50 minutes? Just bring this every time, each period. Mix up shots, throw them down an open lane if you see one, toss trash on net and hope for rebounds. Both of those goals weren't them trying to be pretty, they were urgency to just get the puck on the net.

This has been my biggest gripe with this team. They get in the o-zone and try to make perfect plays. They need to get greasier and score goals like Larkin and Raymond’s last night

 

[datsyukfan]

Not one of the 3 stars by any means, but I do think Johansson had a nice game tonight.

Don’t worry he will be scratched Wednesday night

 

[Lazlo Hollyfeld]

I see all of the D chasing a fair bit. I think it is the defensive coverage the Wings try to play, but during any sort of extended pressure they can't maintain it, guys lose track of who they are supposed to be on and we end up with multiple guys taking one guy, or someone just lost in space resulting in stuff like Petry being stuck in no man's land with two guys to defend next to the net.

Considering this has been happening for two years, maybe Fester should be looking to change it to something his guys can actually handle.

Agreed.

As satisfying as it may be to fire Petry into the sun, that play started when Fischer left his man and got stuck in no mans land. Suddenly there’s two guys wide open in front of the net and only one Petry.

And as I’ve said before forwards need to win puck battles in their own end. The reason the Wings get pinned in their own end isn’t purely on the D. Players need to win the puck and have a zone exit strategy other than a high lob.

Yes please to upgrading the defense but the chaos in their own end is a team effort.

 

[raymond23]

Seider goal
Larkin goal
Raymond goal
Edvinsson goal
Johansson first point

That was fun

 

[SoupGuru]

This has been my biggest gripe with this team. They get in the o-zone and try to make perfect plays. They need to get greasier and score goals like Larkin and Raymond’s last night

Here's a statistic I'd be curious to see: how many odd man rushes end up without a shot

 

[TKB]

Agreed.

As satisfying as it may be to fire Petry into the sun, that play started when Fischer left his man and got stuck in no mans land. Suddenly there’s two guys wide open in front of the net and only one Petry.

And as I’ve said before forwards need to win puck battles in their own end. The reason the Wings get pinned in their own end isn’t purely on the D. Players need to win the puck and have a zone exit strategy other than a high lob.

Yes please to upgrading the defense but the chaos in their own end is a team effort.

I realize I am an old-timer who the game has passed by and there must be a good reason all these teams play man to man or hybrid, but I just don't see it.

Just play a classic zone set up let guys read and react as a unit and you can still apply as much pressure as you like when/where needed. Also does wonders for the transition and break out game.

After that we can work on getting rid of all these stupid helmets the guys started wearing in the late 70's (I don't have to add the sarcasm tag right?)